Dick Jones
Gold Member
you know what needs to be done
Best/Worst I can do
I like how the arm movement changes him to his Jim Ryan form
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Best/Worst I can do
I like how the arm movement changes him to his Jim Ryan form
Captain Toad
Banned
Depends on how they're done.
You guys realize PS Now predates GamePass, right? That PS+ paid monthly free games predates Games with Gold?
yurinka
Member
MLB sells a lot of copies every year. Why would Sony want to reject them?
The criticism wasn't about having game subscriptions, Plus and Now were there way before GP and didn't get the criticism. As long as they are something secondary, optional and complementary while devs can focus on their normal business (selling games) it's fine.
The criticism is about wanting to kill/highly decrease the main revenue source of the developers (game sales) by putting the big games there day one, having all players busy there so not buying and playing other games. Revenue from subs for devs is peanuts compared to game sales, and on top of that only a few games get released each month in subscriptions, while in a context focused on game sales there are dozens or hundreds of game released pr month. This means that many devs wouldn't be able to release their games (so would hurt their revenues even more) and the platform holder would gatekeep even more in a subscription focused context than in a sales focused context.
So an environment focused on releasing games directly to a sub where sales would be way smaller than now would be hurtful for many devs, many would be kept out of the loop/business and many would need to scale down their budget to adapt it to the way smalle revenues they'd get in that context. While to continue on a context focused on game sales where the sub is something secondary to get some extra revenue from games that don't sell anymore, the current context would allow more devs to be in the business, releasing more games and since their revenue would be higher than in a sub focused environment, they'd be able to spend bigger budgets on them.
This is talking in hypothetical cases where GP -or a similar day 1 releases focused sub- would highly dominate the business, which as of now it isn't the case at all. Sony always has been more successful with game subs, and more importantly, even if growing game subs are a tiny portion of the global gaming business, and a small one of the console business.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
There are rumors that MS is trying to tie MLB to Xbox brand with Game Pass, since supposedly they had higher engagement numbers. And will push that with clever marketing.
Most of their (Sony's) revenue is also made from the DD mode as well.
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Camreezie
Member
Oh shit mans coming for the receipt
yurinka
Member
Sony doesn't want "engagement", Sony wants profits and revenue instead. Going multi with MLB meant the series gave them more money than ever before, so they are happy with it. They don't care if the ones who pay them that money are the players or MS.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They make most of their profit and revenue from DD mode sales. If they put it on PS+, even more would day 1 dive into it and boost baseball's FUT/MUT digital crack mode. You are already starting to see fans asking Sony what gives over the GP thing, they will do that even more so when the new service launches.
yurinka
Member
They said there will be up to 340 (the number will vary a bit per country) legacy titles at launch. The ones they listed are only a portion of them, the full list per each country/psn store region will be revealead as they keep releasing it in each region.
I won't believe this until I see the receipts. Diid Sony say it was the case?
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Exactly...this is a subscription service. They are never at their best on day one. Even the all-mighty Gamepass.
This is the beginning and they will be building it from there... i'm actually surprised at the PS4 and PS5 offer tbh.
It's the older games that for now i'm underwhelmed. But i have a feeling Sony didn't reveal the biggest older titles because some will differ depending on region...
You'd expect them to try to make a bigger splash at launch though. It'll be really interesting to see what their July lineup is.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Can't reveal them sources (I've spent time at that studio and was one of the first to see the mode back in its inception over a decade ago by the designer), but let's just say, there is a reason that mode gets 90% of the attention every year over other modes. It is their money maker, and one of the many reasons they too wanted the 3rd party license upon renewal, more revenue the more places the game can be played.They said there will be up to 340 (the number will vary a bit per country) legacy titles at launch. The ones they listed are only a portion of them, the full list per each country/psn store region will be revealead as they keep releasing it in each region.
I won't believe this until I see the receipts. Diid Sony say it was the case?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
A bigger splash than including games not even a year old, most of their own PS4 catalog, multiple exclusive PS5 games, etc?
They only missed the legacy content IMO. At least for now. We'll see monday what asian countries get.
I'm surprised with the PS4/PS5 games. If they do a good job and keep adding games that I want to play or would play. That would make me rethink my preferences of buying game in physical. If with this service i will still play the games i want to play and save money then awesome. Right now with the list of PS4/PS5 they release i will save almost $200 if I play 1 year and if i pay 3 month will save around $260 and still play those games.
About the legacy games those who are interested in that will have to wait until june to see the full list.
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GhostOfTsu
Banned
Because there's nothing good in that list, right? I guess it's missing those no-name indies you can get on Steam for $3. You guys are always so excited for them
They lost their shit when Guardians of the Galaxy was announced and Assassin’s Creed Origins too. GOTG is also on PS+ and not even a mention.
Valhalla, Returnal, Demons Souls, Ghost of Tsushima, Miles Morales etc is not good enough for some reason. Who wants to play recent AAAs? It's all about indies and niche stuff now.
The reactions in this thread is completely different. No hype at all about any games, they just ask about PS2
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Because there's nothing good in that list, right? I guess it's missing those no-name indies you can get on Steam for $3. You guys are always so excited for them
Did you even read the post and context I was replying to ?
Fess
Member
Yup, people can moan all they want about how it’s better to buy games or whatever, I don’t care, I get more games for less money this way so I’m in. Prepaid till 2024. Can’t wait!
Swift_Star
Banned
That was a given, they said they’re investing in this service and only CONCERNED CITIZENS were trolling about it.
You won’t see first party games day one there though.
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Swift_Star
Banned
The list is pretty appealing to me since I haven’t played some of the first party games that are on the service and have also not played guardians of the galaxy. Since I assume most gamers don’t buy as much games as I do, I expect the list is appealing to the broad audience too.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Did you go and search for the MC score for every game?
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GhostOfTsu
Banned
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The context was about PS5 games so which "good ones" are missing?
The context is a user asking why the PS5 versions of the Uncharted games aren't on the list and the chain being "more games will be added" which led to my reply.
Die Namek Ability
Member
To be fair, a ps5 version of uncharted wouldn't move the needle that much so maybe it didnt make the cut of "the good ones". Sony has so many blockbusters and Uncharted is a bit dated at this point.
GhostOfTsu
Banned
That doesn't change the context at all, tho? Which "good ones are they holding back to make it appealing"
This reads to me like you don't think the list is appealing. There is no other way to read it actually.
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Guy_who_thinks_hes_cool
Member
maybe am blind, but are there vita games as well?
dotnotbot
Member
No, Sony didn't say a word about vita.
Guy_who_thinks_hes_cool
Member
how dare they!!!
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Nah it was all on a couple of sites all nicely organized by month/year/score.
Topher
Identifies as young
Well, he said "since launch" which was in 2010. I doubt you would have to go back that far though. PS+ used to have much better games that they have been getting the last few years.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
The authentic Vita experience.
bitbydeath
Member
It also just came out this year which might be too soon to join PS++.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
But then your talking about an investment of $600 vs $15 to get to today.
Gambit2483
Member
double post*
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Gambit2483
Member
Topher
Identifies as young
No, I get it. I was just answering your question. Most gamers are not going to have accumulated every game PS+ ever offered so it doesn't really matter. PS+, as it has been, and Game Pass are very different services.
Belthazar
Member
6,5K like "MUH people don't care about classic games and BC, MUH"
And they usually just get 300 likes at best on their posts.
skit_data
Member
Same here. PS2 is the only Playstation console I have never owned, which is ironic because it’s their most succesful console and it’s very easy to find both the console and games for it for a pretty small amount of money.
kyliethicc
Member
Some more old games are popping up.
Seems like they’ll be available for individual purchase, around $5.
Might vary by region.
Ridge Racer 2
https://store.playstation.com/en-my/concept/10005097
Oddworld
https://store.playstation.com/en-my/product/UP4134-CUSA33999_00-3720818447088678
Seems like they’ll be available for individual purchase, around $5.
Might vary by region.
Ridge Racer 2
https://store.playstation.com/en-my/concept/10005097
Oddworld
https://store.playstation.com/en-my/product/UP4134-CUSA33999_00-3720818447088678
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skit_data
Member
I was just about to say, I saw this:
Hmmm… I think I actually own Abes Oddysee digitally from the PS3 era. Will be sweet if I can play it on my PS5. Let’s hope Abes Exoddus is there as well.
Some high profile games not included in the previous lists. Very promising, and further underlines that there is indeed many games not included in the PS+ Premium list from the blogpost.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Sony will always want to spread out the games so they can have some releasing every month.
I'll say this though... it's still surreal to me this is happening lmao. Is there a way to find out which PSOne games I bought back on PS3 without using it?
March Climber
Member
Not sure if it still works, but here
https://www.videogameschronicle.com...station-store-and-buy-psp-ps3-and-vita-games/
Captain Toad
Banned
I really hope Sony gets access to the SquareEnix and Capcom PS1 and PS2 libraries.
Crispy Gamer
Member
I only remember purchasing the ps one Resident Evil's digitally I'm glad we don't have to repurchase these hopefully Sony can release a steady flow each month. I was way more interested in the PS5 games but I'm actually getting excited for the classics especially if they have trophies good stuff Sony!
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Meh.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Amazing how people forgot that SCEA published FFVII on the PSX.
