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Alpha Protocol |OT| Bourne, Avellone, Denton, and the Agency's Sagacious Secrets
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sflufan said:
Let me say this. I lost trust in alot of the German outlets a while ago, but they have also also been less hard on jnaky RPGs. To me the Joystiq and Destructoid reviews sound plausible. because they mention what I saw and apparently wasn't fixed for the most part. Why Obsidian has these problems with actually finishing their games is beyond me.
The Joystiq article actually mentions that htey were done 6 months ago. If that's the state of your game how can you look at it and say it's good to go? I'd like to think that it's all because of publisher pressure, but then why turns basically every Obsidian game out this way?
Basileus777
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Destructoid said:
Ouch. This is not what I wanted to hear. I could endure a janky, mess of a game if it the story was worth it, but if the writing isn't exceptional, this game doesn't really have much going for it.
Basileus777
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eznark said:
Too bad it's Sega. And Obsidian moved onto New Vegas a while ago. I have no confidence that this game will be supported with patches.
Basileus777
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ArjanN said:
Deadly Premonition was also a $20 game. And in the review he harps a lot on how $60 is too much for AP. Either way, a score of 2 seems...a bit extreme.
Blast Processing
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ArjanN said:
Yes, 2 X 5 = 10, but I don't think you're meant to extrapolate it that far. :lol
Basileus777 said:
I was half joking because he was complaining about technical problems, while Deadly premonition is at least as buggy.
Anyway, if the game is a good experience, the price is pretty irrelevant to me. A crap game at 1$ is still a crap game.
I was expecting love-it-or-hate-it reviews anyway, as it's really that type of game.
TheApatheticOne
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Larsen B said:
I would say if anyone personally doesn't HAVE to buy the game right now, that just a little patience and it wont be long at all before this is below $30.
I'll buy it then, just because Ive followed this game for so long, and was looking forward to it, but while Im not one to put a lot of stock into reviews.... if this is as bad as everyone is saying it is.... I can definitely hold off.
VibratingDonkey
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It's hard to take Jim Sterling seriously, so I'm not even gonna bother trying.
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Deleted member 17706
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I forgot to preorder this! I'll make sure to grab it on Steam when I get home. The PC-centric reviews seem to be pretty good.
YuriLowell
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Can someone decent review the PC version?
JustHadToJoin
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obsidian is really terrible. soo bad at making games
Basileus777
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JustHadToJoin said:
They'll always have Mask of the Betrayer.
daoster said:
KB/M yes, worked great, I had to adjust mouse sensibility at the .ini doc to 100% because in my version it was at 60% and was damn hard to turn using the mouse, but it was perfect after that. The hacking minigame is clearly designed for dual sticks, but I got used to it using KB/M (and if you find it annoying, raise a bit technical proficiency and use EM granades to go through it, think it worked like that).
Holy shit at the reviews. I mean, I wasn't expecting 9s, but I just read through the Joystiq review. If it had been mediocre, I wouldn't have cared because this type of game is right up my alley, but with it being so negative, I think I'm cancelling my pre-order and waiting for a steam sale on this baby.
Hopefully New Vegas turns out better.
Hopefully New Vegas turns out better.
mjemirzian
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skill based mini-games make incompetent troll journalist go into fits of "misery and rage".. film at 11
eznark said:
Fair enough.
It's just the whole "I'll wait for the Steam sale" thing that bugs me a little. Especially when people then later complain everyone is developing generic safe stuff they know will sell.
coopolon said:
Um..you might want to look at some more reviews or people's impressions here.
Either way I'd probably avoid the console version.
ArjanN said:
To be fair, 'generic safe stuff' tends to be more technically proficient. It's awesome when a studio comes out and tries to do something distinct, but if they struggle getting the core components of gameplay down, they're not going to get many rewards for thinking outside the box. Which is a damn shame.
My main confusion about this title stems from criticisms of its story. That.. that shouldn't happen. Obsidian is one thing, but Avellone?
graywolf323
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ElNarez said:
did you ignore the Joystiq review? not to mention GameSpot's 6.0
the reviews for this game are all over the place, 1UP just gave it a B+
Shake Appeal
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I have nothing but respect for Avellone and Obsidian. Planescape: Torment is my favourite game of all time. But I have plenty of games, great games, occupying my time, and I cannot and probably should not afford to "support" developers who aren't making games I feel are worth their full price.ArjanN said:
If they can't deliver polished, coherent experiences that are strong on every level, then maybe they don't deserve that sale.
Basileus777
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Vinci said:
Hmm, maybe its because reviews mean shit to me but based on what I have read from people on GAF playing it isn't that the part that gets fawned the most?
(Seriously, I haven't read any of the reviews posted, I have read all the GAFfers who have said the flaws mean nothing when everything else about the game is awesome. Some have trashed it but some who have trashed it have the "played it to bash it" feeling going on whereas others just can't handle the flaws)
Obsidian is a B tier director, I accepted that a long time ago, but BioWare has released many "polished" games that are boring as sin, have terrible writing, and could use a few months of editing to make them not so drawn out and boring. Obsidian games may be flawed but damn if they aren't awesomely flawed.
Sometimes the B tier is more fun than AAA, you just can't expect the same quality in terms of polish. A B movie won't have the same special effects as a AAA blockbuster but there are some of those I'd definitely watch first.
daoster said:
Well yeah kinda. It's doesnt have native PS3 controller support, it has 360 pad support but by using a program i make the PS3 controller emulate the 360 one, so it works right away in all games with 360 pad support.
I followed the guide here:
http://www.tested.com/news/how-to-make-console-gamepads-play-nice-with-pc-and-mac/203/
To be fair, I'm pretty shocked at how short it is as well. I won't pay $50 for a 12 hour game (I'm blown away that someone in this thread was able to beat this game in a day).
But pre-ordering it on Amazon means like ~25% off already (already 46.99, plus you get a $10 credit).
Combined with being such a short game, and how buggy some people in this thread have described it (admittedly someone else said they didn't experience a single bug the entire game, but with it being an Obsidian game I find this comment immediately suspect), I think it's best waiting till it's under $30, preferably $19.99, before picking it up. Plus, hopefully by that time either Obsidian/Sega will patch it or user base will find ways to mod it.
But pre-ordering it on Amazon means like ~25% off already (already 46.99, plus you get a $10 credit).
Combined with being such a short game, and how buggy some people in this thread have described it (admittedly someone else said they didn't experience a single bug the entire game, but with it being an Obsidian game I find this comment immediately suspect), I think it's best waiting till it's under $30, preferably $19.99, before picking it up. Plus, hopefully by that time either Obsidian/Sega will patch it or user base will find ways to mod it.
Basileus777 said:
It´s not very hard and I found it fun (I really liked the hacking minigame, it was challenging) But again, there are EM grenades you can buy, you don't need to go through it if you don't want.
Suspect of what? I have no personal interest on the success of this game. I played the PC version and that's what I found, maybe the console versions have more problems, I don't know. I posted things I liked and things I didn't, so it´s not like I was blindly praising him. If I had found bugs I would have said it.
I really enjoyed it and I made the effort to post my view on it because I think there are people here that will enjoy it for the same reasons I did. Don't believe me? pass on it, or wait for a sale. It´s not my concern.