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Alpha Protocol |OT| Bourne, Avellone, Denton, and the Agency's Sagacious Secrets
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Some good times in Rome, best fun I've had in the game so far. I wish the whole game was full of more things like that "sniper" mission.
I've had no problems on my PS3 playing the game, no worse than anyone is reporting. You really have to go into the game wanting to play a Choose Your Own Adventure not the shooting parts though.
Still a high 7 for me. But from someone who likes the game, I don't understand any review, even from an RPG outlet that praises the shooting. Any RPG outlet reviewing Alpha should have played Mass Effect 2 already, and even if not they've had plenty of time to play Mass Effect 1 which still had better combat.
The choice is what makes this game, you have to go in wanting that Heavy Rain style 'My game was way different than yours' experience and that really has to be enough for you.
There should be plenty of people out there that'd be fine with that, but it's going to have a hell of a time finding those people if you trick the shooter audience who hated Mass Effect 1 into playing this.
I've had no problems on my PS3 playing the game, no worse than anyone is reporting. You really have to go into the game wanting to play a Choose Your Own Adventure not the shooting parts though.
Still a high 7 for me. But from someone who likes the game, I don't understand any review, even from an RPG outlet that praises the shooting. Any RPG outlet reviewing Alpha should have played Mass Effect 2 already, and even if not they've had plenty of time to play Mass Effect 1 which still had better combat.
The choice is what makes this game, you have to go in wanting that Heavy Rain style 'My game was way different than yours' experience and that really has to be enough for you.
There should be plenty of people out there that'd be fine with that, but it's going to have a hell of a time finding those people if you trick the shooter audience who hated Mass Effect 1 into playing this.
OUCH! After reading the reviews, I will wait for it to price drop. It should be 45$ in about a month. I guess if you are an Obsidian fan it will be an incredible experience for you but I'm more a fan of WRPG with choices/branches than a fan of the company.
There is no way my laptop will run that so I will be stuck with the 360 version
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EDIT : Destructoid is really harsh with it
http://www.destructoid.com/review-alpha-protocol-174617.phtml
There is no way my laptop will run that so I will be stuck with the 360 version
.EDIT : Destructoid is really harsh with it
http://www.destructoid.com/review-alpha-protocol-174617.phtml
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ElNarez said:
That's my thoughts too. It has issues, but I'm willing to look past them for really fun gameplay.
Joseph Merrick
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not so sure this makes any sense at all. I'm definitely more a fan of choices/branches than a fan of obsidian. huge fan of bloodlines. the only really bad taste obsidian look how clever this is writing I've seen is in the tutorial. the rest has been fineVamphuntr said:
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graywolf323
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I asked the RPGamer reviewer in their forums to elaborate on the polished statement and here's his reply
http://board.rpgamer.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?act=ST;f=4;t=21703;st=#entry490515
"I read the 1up review and the Gamespot review. I didn't experience the wonky AI that 1up complained about. On the contrary, I found the AI in Alpha Protocol to be much sharper than it is in other shooters -- it's certainly better than it is in Tom Clancy games I've played, it's leagues better than Rockstar's games, and I'd put it above Haze, Army of Two, Army of Two 2, and any shooter with zombies. The Gears games have great AI, but they don't have the complicated detection systems that Alpha Protocol has, as enemies generally just leap out of pits in predetermined points and shoot at you. I haven't played any Call of Duty/Modern Warfare games, so unless they have excellent AI, I don't know what modern shooter you can put next to AP and say "Alpha Protocol's AI is definitely worse."
As the Gamestop review... Man. I don't know. It's like he played a different game. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if that review gets pulled or modified because it's seriously incorrect in spots. For example:
"Under-the-hood calculations figure into your abilities in the field, so just because you aim directly at a bad guy's head and pull the trigger doesn't mean you're going to lodge a bullet in his skull."
That line is completely false. I used a pistol in my playthrough and only ranked it up 2 times (out of a max of 15) and that never happened. Ever. Every single time I aimed at someone's head and the cursor lined up, the dude got a bullet in his skull. Unless the reviewer was trying to snipe with submachine guns (which are super inaccurate) or didn't hold his aim steady for a few seconds while the reticule lines up, I have no idea why he would say that.
Then it looks like he included a screenshot of him flashbanging himself, and put in a caption like it's a standard visual effect. Uh. You flashbanged yourself. Of course the screen went all white. I didn't experience the camera angle problems he complained about either.
If you have specific questions about how polished or not the game is, feel free to ask and I'll answer, but based on those two reviews you have 1 complaint I didn't encounter, and a review that's totally loco. Maybe the Gamespot reviewer played it on a laptop with a pentium III and an 8MB graphics card? I don't know. "
restored my faith slightly
http://board.rpgamer.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?act=ST;f=4;t=21703;st=#entry490515
"I read the 1up review and the Gamespot review. I didn't experience the wonky AI that 1up complained about. On the contrary, I found the AI in Alpha Protocol to be much sharper than it is in other shooters -- it's certainly better than it is in Tom Clancy games I've played, it's leagues better than Rockstar's games, and I'd put it above Haze, Army of Two, Army of Two 2, and any shooter with zombies. The Gears games have great AI, but they don't have the complicated detection systems that Alpha Protocol has, as enemies generally just leap out of pits in predetermined points and shoot at you. I haven't played any Call of Duty/Modern Warfare games, so unless they have excellent AI, I don't know what modern shooter you can put next to AP and say "Alpha Protocol's AI is definitely worse."
As the Gamestop review... Man. I don't know. It's like he played a different game. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if that review gets pulled or modified because it's seriously incorrect in spots. For example:
"Under-the-hood calculations figure into your abilities in the field, so just because you aim directly at a bad guy's head and pull the trigger doesn't mean you're going to lodge a bullet in his skull."
That line is completely false. I used a pistol in my playthrough and only ranked it up 2 times (out of a max of 15) and that never happened. Ever. Every single time I aimed at someone's head and the cursor lined up, the dude got a bullet in his skull. Unless the reviewer was trying to snipe with submachine guns (which are super inaccurate) or didn't hold his aim steady for a few seconds while the reticule lines up, I have no idea why he would say that.
Then it looks like he included a screenshot of him flashbanging himself, and put in a caption like it's a standard visual effect. Uh. You flashbanged yourself. Of course the screen went all white. I didn't experience the camera angle problems he complained about either.
If you have specific questions about how polished or not the game is, feel free to ask and I'll answer, but based on those two reviews you have 1 complaint I didn't encounter, and a review that's totally loco. Maybe the Gamespot reviewer played it on a laptop with a pentium III and an 8MB graphics card? I don't know. "
restored my faith slightly
graywolf323
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syllogism said:
that sucks if true :-(
Vyse The Legend
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Obsidian, in general, appears to suffer from poor management and harsh publisher deadlines/requirements quite regularly.
Still, it's incredible that the reviews, thus far, have been so scattered-shot. 1up gave it a B+ (from Scott "I hate everything" Sharky no less), yet Gamespot (6 out of 10), Destructoid and Joystiq would argue it's a 6 and below game. Craziness.
I fear for Fallout: New Vegas.
Still, it's incredible that the reviews, thus far, have been so scattered-shot. 1up gave it a B+ (from Scott "I hate everything" Sharky no less), yet Gamespot (6 out of 10), Destructoid and Joystiq would argue it's a 6 and below game. Craziness.
I fear for Fallout: New Vegas.
Basileus777
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Baloonatic
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That was quick.
syllogism said:
The way he talks about the director of the game.... His boss reminds me so much of my advisor/boss during my MSc. He thought he was the best chemist in the world but man was he terrible. No leadership, no planning, always thinking it's normal that reactions fails often without trying to find solutions. Never helped his fellow students with their project, not even help them review or prepare their presentation or help them prepare defend their thesis even if it was all of his project they were about. In the end he destroyed the career of pretty much every students in the group and was trying to damage control by saying it's like that in every lab and that he was the best.
Really hard to work with these kind of guys. If this is true, I wish the best for those who worked on the game.
Joseph Merrick
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lmao what is this, catering software. let me tell you how to do your job
MMaRsu
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Vamphuntr said:OUCH! After reading the reviews, I will wait for it to price drop. It should be 45$ in about a month. I guess if you are an Obsidian fan it will be an incredible experience for you but I'm more a fan of WRPG with choices/branches than a fan of the company.
There is no way my laptop will run that so I will be stuck with the 360 version
EDIT : Destructoid is really harsh with it
http://www.destructoid.com/review-alpha-protocol-174617.phtml
Destructoid gave Assassins Creed 2 a 4 or something, I don't take anything they write seriously.
RubberJohnny
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It's hilarious that people believe this shit.Basileus777 said:
1) The additional six months were for positioning, literally no work was done on the game because funding dried up. Blame SEGA.
2) This guy has clearly never had a job in anything other than retail, games are never shit because of "lazy devs" but the usual corporate bullshit of time mismanagement, shifting goals and deadlines, and so on. Anyone who posts "lazy devs" for anything, ever is an idiot whose opinions should be disregarded because clearly they're on some alternate version of reality (or just have never worked in an office).
Joseph Merrick
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sounds kind of like total bullshit. chris parker's been producing games for such a long time I'm not going to believe he'd be such a huge problem for the game in this kind of up and coming middle manager style. take a overall look at that whole joystiq comments sectionidahoblue said:
Zeouterlimits
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Don't be so hasty..._tetsuo_ said:
Rated-Rsuperstar
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MMaRsu said:
I thought you were joking. Looked it up and found they gave it a 4.5/10. What a joke of a site.
Gamer @ Heart
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It was smart to release it when nothing else is coming out.
But why the same company that had a clusterfuck of a March, would do this for one game and not 4 others is beyond me.
But why the same company that had a clusterfuck of a March, would do this for one game and not 4 others is beyond me.
This is the 3rd or 4th time it has happened to them and they still have the same problems with each release. It's clear they have a problem with how the company is run. As the blog states, it could be incompetent management, poor resource/time management, bad programmers, etc.dygiT said:It sucks when developers post stuff like this.
Makes you think about what really goes on behind the scenes and think twice about wanting to be a part of it.
scarybore
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syllogism said:
I'll take that with a pinch of salt but it's true that the game is lacking direction and polish, but I expected as much and I'm still finding it an enjoyable experience overall. It's also pretty amusing,
one of my possible email responses was about someone getting raped by a bear, and I've just got to Brayko and I can't stop laughing at how absurd this boss fight is.
rainking187
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Aside from the bullet sponge thing that quick look made the game look pretty good.
whalenapp81
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I'm on the fence about getting this game. But I do have a random question how is a B+ an 83 on metacritic? I thought a B+ was from 90-93.
1up Review
Alpha Protocol Metacritic Page
1up Review
Alpha Protocol Metacritic Page
syllogism said:
Whatever.
Anyway, I am back playing the game and it is much more fun now.
I started as a freelancer on hard mode and maxed the fuck out of stealth and now the game is AWESOME!!!!!!!
Evasion and Master Awareness have saved my butt too many times to count, and I am only at the intro base (there is a lot more to do here than initially meets the eye).
Lastly, the perk system rocks (as is the amount of kids orphaned stat).
Joseph Merrick
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hehe. how many orphans have you racked up? I killed a ton of people in the beginning, but have completely stopped killing people now. 550 orphans :OCep said:
rainking187
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Cep said:
Must buy this game now.