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Alpha Protocol |OT| Bourne, Avellone, Denton, and the Agency's Sagacious Secrets
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Danne-Danger
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Cep said:
Took the first guy behind the starting cover out as he moved past, went over to the right side, went to take out the next guy as he stood looking to the right (with the lieutenant walking to the left, and the last guy looking away, also went "invisible" to make it safer), hid behind a support pillar for the bridge and took the last guy as he walked back under it, and then invisible (or silent running...) again to get to the lieutenant.
Danne-Danger said:
I can take care of them all perfectly fine (I only need to go invisible if I mess up), my question was more for the boss itself. To get the sub-objective, do I have to stealth-kill him (is that even possible) or what?
Also, what difficulty are you on? After I KO the second guy, the third guy runs to him really quickly so I do not even get the chance to hide behind the pillar, I have to circle around as he is running up.
SenorDingDong
Member
Cep said:
Just sneak up and approach him while he's in the middle of the bridge and a brief cutscene will play
Danne-Danger
Member
Yeah, what dingdong said. Though:
I'm playing on normal, but I guess they also up the awareness of the guards and not just the damage then? I feel like I need to be really close when doing a takedown to alert other guards not looking directly at me. Kinda wish I went with hard now.Cep said:
Danne-Danger said:Yeah, what dingdong said. Though:
I'm playing on normal, but I guess they also up the awareness of the guards and not just the damage then? I feel like I need to be really close when doing a takedown to alert other guards not looking directly at me. Kinda wish I went with hard now.
Thank you for the advice. It seems that my problem was that I tried to use the shadow skill to sneak (and that was too slow). Silent steps did the job.
Joseph Merrick
Member
uch, had almost forgotten that video. found it offputting and annoying. luckily the game is goodbjork said:
graywolf323
Member
Chrange said:
Bourne, Bond, Bauer, Westen?
ArjanN said:
I'm a pure-console gamer these days and while I agree Bioware and Bethesda games tend to be overly buggy and unpolished, they do offer a lot of entertainment. I mean, what else is there out there? You can't call them overrated because they do produce the best games in the genre on consoles.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
What is GAF's general consensus?
Other boards I go to seem to be kinda pissed off that this isn't Gears of War: Secret Spy Edition.
Other boards I go to seem to be kinda pissed off that this isn't Gears of War: Secret Spy Edition.
Danne-Danger
Member
Consensus seems to be that you either love it, like it, feel disappointed by it or hate it.Zuhzuhzombie!! said:
I, for one, like the stealth and dialogue and Im having a lot of fun with it.
Same here.Danne-Danger said:
The more I play it, the more I'm reminded of a quote I read once about Assassin's Creed on Eurogamer: "I always found Assassin's Creed to be a 6/10 experience wrapped up in a 9/10 game engine." Well, Alpha Protocol is a 9/10 experience wrapped up in a 3/10 game engine. (Although the engine itself isn't the problem obviously but how it's used.)
Also, is it just me, or can't most people differentiate between gameplay and production values anymore?
Tips for enjoying Alpha Protocol:
-Get the game on PC: Even if you play it on the lowest settings possible, you are doing yourself a favor for now and for when tweaks/patches/mods are released
-If you are tear sensitive (or like stable games), ignore the ps3 version like the fucking plague.
-Choose dialogue options other than Professional: It is a bit too safe, even when people prefer you be professional with them
-Play it as a stealth game and not an action game.
-To this end, max Stealth (mandatory 3~4 levels) and Pistols, and invest in melee
-If you insist on playing it like a shooter (Putting levels in stealth is still mandatory), either go Assault Rifle or go home.
-Mix up the hubs. You do not have to do all the hubs one at a time, you can hop from place to place.
-Challenge yourself with the stats. A no-kill run is not only possible, but extremely rewarding.
-Bum the game off of people so you can spend your money on SMG2 and get the best of all worlds
-Have realistic expectations (especially after Kotor 2)
-Get the game on PC: Even if you play it on the lowest settings possible, you are doing yourself a favor for now and for when tweaks/patches/mods are released
-If you are tear sensitive (or like stable games), ignore the ps3 version like the fucking plague.
-Choose dialogue options other than Professional: It is a bit too safe, even when people prefer you be professional with them
-Play it as a stealth game and not an action game.
-To this end, max Stealth (mandatory 3~4 levels) and Pistols, and invest in melee
-If you insist on playing it like a shooter (Putting levels in stealth is still mandatory), either go Assault Rifle or go home.
-Mix up the hubs. You do not have to do all the hubs one at a time, you can hop from place to place.
-Challenge yourself with the stats. A no-kill run is not only possible, but extremely rewarding.
-Bum the game off of people so you can spend your money on SMG2 and get the best of all worlds
-Have realistic expectations (especially after Kotor 2)
Cep said:
The Gametrailers video review gave me back some hope. It doesn't seems to be a technical disaster as much as the gamespot review pretended. It seems you are enjoying it a lot which is a good sign
. Still, having a list like that to enjoy the game kinda goes against the whole point of the game. Are you not supposed to play it like you want? I will probably get it once it drops in price. I don't think I will regret putting my cash on Peace Walker instead.Vamphuntr said:The Gametrailers video review gave me back some hope. It doesn't seems to be a technical disaster as much as the gamespot review pretended. It seems you are enjoying it a lot which is a good sign
I personally think that they should have marketed this game as a stealth-RPG game.
Would have made a lot more sense.
Although I am playing on hard (+No kill challenge), so...
D2M15 said:
If by this point you do not know this, then you do not belong on the internet.
And besides, the opinions of others can be very important when trying to make a decision, you just have to know how to properly filter.
Edit: Fucking comma splices everywhere...
Outtrigger888
Member
Cep said:
Isnt this game marketed as a stealth RPG, I think it even says it on the box :lol
The Last Wizard
Member
are there any spoilers in the gametrailer review?
bonesmccoy
Banned
I just finished the training mission, and... I like it. The thing is, the experience thus far feels very "PC". Whereas the trend has been to consolize RPG's, AP does the opposite. Like others have mentioned, there is a distinct Deus Ex, Vampire Masquerade, KoToR feel about it so far.
I'd say that if you are a RPG fan who liked the aforementioned, you'll like this game because you'll know how to play it. If you trend toward a faster paced, shooter game, then your $$$ is better spent on Mass Effect 2.
I'd say that if you are a RPG fan who liked the aforementioned, you'll like this game because you'll know how to play it. If you trend toward a faster paced, shooter game, then your $$$ is better spent on Mass Effect 2.
weekendCONFIRMED
Banned
It's odd how the reviews for this have only sparked my interest. This game was completely off my radar as I thought it would be just another cornball spy game. I had no idea how deep the rpg and gear mechanics were. And the people complaining about bugs is shrugged off and makes me laugh a bit considering (like previously said) how buggy and janky parts of Bioware/Bethesda games are.
I'm about to pre-order it on Steam I think *shrug*
I'm about to pre-order it on Steam I think *shrug*
Basileus777
Member
Having played the game through two hub areas, the game is better than I feared. The combat and stealth mechanics aren't great, and they certainly don't hold up to action games. Although the game has its share of jank, it isn't terrible enough to ruin the game's other charms.
In typical fashion, Obsidian really did themselves a disservice by having a terrible start to the game. They give you no real story hook to get you interested into the plot until after the first hub area. The tutorial zone really showcases the games weakness in game mechanics. Once I got further into the game, it started to click and I slowly started to get into it.
The writing has been pretty solid and ti has nice dialogue, but it's not anything MOTB quality. The story has done a good job of capturing the feel of a spy game and gives you a ton of decisions, but the characters feel a bit flat and archetypal. Things like
We'll see how the rest of the game pans out, I'm not really far enough into it to judge it fully.
The PC version is a typical quick console port with menus developed around a controller, no mouse wheel support for text, and no hotkey options. A clunky interface and things like having to go through a radial menu to change skills when I have a keyboard in front of me is just annoying. The game would have benefited from a Mass Effect style reworking of the interface/HUD. Anyone thinking this game developed first and foremost for the PC is mistaken.
In typical fashion, Obsidian really did themselves a disservice by having a terrible start to the game. They give you no real story hook to get you interested into the plot until after the first hub area. The tutorial zone really showcases the games weakness in game mechanics. Once I got further into the game, it started to click and I slowly started to get into it.
The writing has been pretty solid and ti has nice dialogue, but it's not anything MOTB quality. The story has done a good job of capturing the feel of a spy game and gives you a ton of decisions, but the characters feel a bit flat and archetypal. Things like
Madison's death choice don't really work because she's just some boring character who you've only had three conversations with, and none of them really told you anything personal about her.
The PC version is a typical quick console port with menus developed around a controller, no mouse wheel support for text, and no hotkey options. A clunky interface and things like having to go through a radial menu to change skills when I have a keyboard in front of me is just annoying. The game would have benefited from a Mass Effect style reworking of the interface/HUD. Anyone thinking this game developed first and foremost for the PC is mistaken.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
syllogism said:
Out of curiosity, what is mouse smoothing?
_tetsuo_ said:
I have the 360 versions of Oblivion and Fallout 3 and they both crash often. Quest are also often impossible to complete because of NPC killing themselves by falling off ledges offscreen and so on. But overall, bugs asides, they were more polished than your average Obsidian game. Can't wait to see what Obsidian will do with New Vegas.
Basileus777
Member
I'd take Alpha Protocol's combat over Fallout 3's any day, but then again I loathed the shooting/VATs in Fallout 3.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
I have to say while the game does seem full of glitches and bugs, I just can't stop playing it. It is really fun as hell.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
For those of you who have played both AP and Splinter Cell: Conviction, which would you recommend? I realize Conviction is very short but it looks good. Not sure about AP?
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
Cep said:
So if PS3 is a person's only option, you're suggesting they completely pass on the game, or ... ?
NEOPARADIGM said:
I rented the PS3 version because the store had the PC version was sold out, and... it's playable, if there's no other way to play it and you're interested it's not terrible, but it does have tearing, a low framerate, jaggies, loading, etc. It's really not a very good port. At least the install is small (479 MB).
Y2Kev said:
It was great in Icewind Dale though, so Planescape doesnt mean much for Black Isle's combat abilities. However dialogue plays a much bigger role in Planescape than in most RPGs, the combat seems like an afterthought, sort of like the story was an afterthought in Dale II (Icewind Dale I was in between the two.)
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
Peff said:
Okay man, thanks.
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Yes, same here, except I'm yet to discover any bugs/glitches. I'm playing very stealthy and using CQC wherever it's possible.
LovingSteam said:
It depends on the platform. If you really into RPGs, don't mind goofy graphics and animation and have a capable PC buy Alpha Protocol. If you want fun stealthy and flashy experience buy Conviction, but it's really short - like 5-6 hours. Both games have pretty much similar stealth system, but it's more polished in Conviction. On the other hand AP gives you more options to pass the stage without killing anybody.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
This game absolutely will NOT alt-tab, folks.
Played through the first mission and half of another. This is all very early stuff but I'm still going to spoil it. I made a choice, basically the first one you can make and I saw results already, not even 5 minutes into the next one I took.
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Played through the first mission and half of another. This is all very early stuff but I'm still going to spoil it. I made a choice, basically the first one you can make and I saw results already, not even 5 minutes into the next one I took.
I let the arms dealer go. Afterwards I was going out on the next mission and I checked the clearinghouse again. There was an intel pack from him about him leaving a weapon for me in a certain mission. I went on it and in a watch tower, after I took out a guard, a silenced sniper rifle was waiting for me. This made getting through that first section a lot easier
Dark Stalkers
Member
I've been alt tabbing just fine.