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Amazon's Like a Dragon: Yakuza TV show cast reveal that they have never played the games: "we wanted to do our own version"
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Amazon's Like a Dragon: Yakuza TV show cast reveal that they have never played the games: "we wanted to do our own version"
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March Climber
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The actors said this, not the writers or director. Thread title will get a good amount of reaction posts though.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
So... it's a yakuza TV show, not a Yakuza TV show.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
mayham2199
Member
Depends on how much of their own thing they want to do really.
Angry_Megalodon
Gold Member
To nobody's surprise.
Imagine being a pro in any field and claiming with pride that you don't research the stuff you are working on.
Imagine being a pro in any field and claiming with pride that you don't research the stuff you are working on.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
And there goes most of my interest in the show.
killatopak
Gold Member
No wonder they said stuff like no side content comedy stuff or even the popular karaoke.
The brief moments outside of the main quests gives some brevity and let the pace breathe. I acknowledge doing less of them but completely ignoring them? Now it’s not even gonna be related to the actual game and just another typical live action writer/director bullshit stroking their own ego?
Fuck this shit man. What’s the fucking purpose of this then.
I WANT MY FUCKING GROWN ASS MEN SUCKING A MILK PACIFIERS IN DIAPERS WHILE I DESTROY KIDS AT A LOCAL POCKET CIRCUIT JOINT
The brief moments outside of the main quests gives some brevity and let the pace breathe. I acknowledge doing less of them but completely ignoring them? Now it’s not even gonna be related to the actual game and just another typical live action writer/director bullshit stroking their own ego?
Fuck this shit man. What’s the fucking purpose of this then.
I WANT MY FUCKING GROWN ASS MEN SUCKING A MILK PACIFIERS IN DIAPERS WHILE I DESTROY KIDS AT A LOCAL POCKET CIRCUIT JOINT
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El Muerto
Gold Member
Hopefully the writers for the show played the games or will listen to RGG for advice. Being on Prime i'll bet this will be successful like how Fallout was. The Witcher went to shit because the writers ignored the author and source material as they wanted to do their own thing.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Always a good sign. I wonder if any of them could be bothered to watch YouTube supercuts.
Complistic
Member
This worked so well for Halo and The Witcher.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I can't think of an adaptation that has found success with this method, but that might be because my memory is full of all the most recent and most prolific examples of fails. If anyone has any counter examples, please provide them.
Bring Back Scalebound
Banned
I still don't get the point of this existing.
The cutscenes of the Yakuza games are directed exactly like movies, the characters are photo-realistic to the point that is straight up just the actors there, and are pretty dialogue heavy to begin with.
Just... play the games. Why make a TV Show? The games are basically TV Shows, bundled with some arcadey gameplay.
The cutscenes of the Yakuza games are directed exactly like movies, the characters are photo-realistic to the point that is straight up just the actors there, and are pretty dialogue heavy to begin with.
Just... play the games. Why make a TV Show? The games are basically TV Shows, bundled with some arcadey gameplay.
Plague Doctor
Member
I am going to say it again
There is absolutely no benefit when making an adaptation not doing the basic research of the source material. None. Zero. Zilch,
Even if your goal is to do your own thing or completely subvert the source, you need to see what has been done before.
Uwe fucking Boll engages with the source material before making his abomination of cinema. If you can't pass the Uwe Boll level of basic research, you are fucked.
There is absolutely no benefit when making an adaptation not doing the basic research of the source material. None. Zero. Zilch,
Even if your goal is to do your own thing or completely subvert the source, you need to see what has been done before.
Uwe fucking Boll engages with the source material before making his abomination of cinema. If you can't pass the Uwe Boll level of basic research, you are fucked.
Gamer_By_Proxy
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A.Romero
Member
Not at all the same as The Witcher given that these comments came from the lead actor while Cavill is a big fan of the series.
night13x
Member
Sounds like a case of the studio wanting to avoid a Henry Cavill situation of hiring an actor who actually is passionate and gives a fuck. Instead the show will probably be pushing some weird political or social agenda, it will suck, writers will blame the audience, amazon will cancel due to low numbers, then everyone goes "why did this happen" in confusion. lol. Oh boy.
March Climber
Member
The reason some actors do this is because they will try too hard to emulate the character's mannerisms and their performances will end up suffering by feeling too 'forced'. Sometimes for directors and writers it's better when they can guide the actor to become that character through good acting (which can produce better results and sometimes good adlibs and more), rather than acting as stifled as possible to emulate that character.
I hope that makes sense.
hemo memo
Gold Member
At least play one. On easy. How hard can that be? Get some idea of the thing you’re making. If not then why bother with the IP at all. Do your own thing. Why would you get an IP just that you do your own thing. How does that make any sense?
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
You should team up with manabyte in defending corporate slogs. Actors knowing the source material is extremely important.
tkscz
Member
Most actors prepare for a role by finding out who their character was in the original media it's being adapted from. So while I hope it's not the writers and directors saying this as well, the actors saying it can also be a bad indication.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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The Infectious Paradox
Gold Member
That's great! Worked really well for the Max Payne and Dragon ball movies 
March Climber
Member
This is a bit more difficult of a conversation point, but
The Cockatrice
if you want to use the lazy rebuttal of me defending corporations than we can simply end discussion. 
tkscz
, there have been plenty of examples in the past of actors not studying source material and doing a phenomenal job of portraying a character in a pop culture/fictional works, from LoTR, to Xmen, to MCU, to DC, to Harry Potter. There is a mass amount of interviews as evidence on youtube to support this. It is not as black and white as many here would like it to be. When these occurrences happen it lies much more heavily on the director to make it work to a specific vision of what they are wanting while giving the actor enough breathing room to add their own creativity to the role.
StereoVsn
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Comandr
Member
Right, this. Like... Why bother doing an adaptation of an extremely well established story if you're going to "pursue your own vision?" Just... Don't bother sullying the Yakuza series name and do your own thing.
Kiryu is Kiryu. He is Kiryu because of his behavior, experiences, reactions, thoughts, expression, interests, goals, beliefs. If you just... Make up your own character and call him Kiryu.. That's not an adaptation.
Braag
Member
A quick guide on how to be 100% sure your show/movie will be hated by everyone and have barely anyone interested in watching it.
1. Tell everyone how you're planning to create a show or a movie based on a popular IP.
2. Refuse to be faithful to the source material and keep saying how "you want to do your own thing and add your own flair to it".
3. Watch as the whole thing crashes and burns as everyone hates it.
1. Tell everyone how you're planning to create a show or a movie based on a popular IP.
2. Refuse to be faithful to the source material and keep saying how "you want to do your own thing and add your own flair to it".
3. Watch as the whole thing crashes and burns as everyone hates it.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Exactly what I say about Last of Us, Fallout, Witcher, etc Anything game related that's already cinematic as fuck.
Just
Esca
Member
Sigh. I'll never understand Hollywood. They license an IP and then ignore the source material and do their own thing. It's like you know the ip was already popular enough and had a large fan base and was why you wanted to license it and paid good money to do so as well. Then you ignore it all and fuck it up. Piss off the built in fan base that would watch it and go for totally new audience instead.
I get having to make changes sometimes and that's ok as long as you are following the blue print of the ip. But instead you don't and wonder how it failed. Fucking clowns
I get having to make changes sometimes and that's ok as long as you are following the blue print of the ip. But instead you don't and wonder how it failed. Fucking clowns
SJRB
Gold Member
How this should've went down:
"Hey man we're gonna make a tv show based on a critically acclaimed videogame series that has been around for decades and has a huge and loyal fanbase and we want you to play a character from this series"
"Okay cool man, but I'm not gonna play any of these games because I want to do my own thing"
"....get the fuck out of my office right now, you dumb fuck"
"Hey man we're gonna make a tv show based on a critically acclaimed videogame series that has been around for decades and has a huge and loyal fanbase and we want you to play a character from this series"
"Okay cool man, but I'm not gonna play any of these games because I want to do my own thing"
"....get the fuck out of my office right now, you dumb fuck"
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Plague Doctor
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This shit should be a lay up. Take a property that has potential to be well received by the masses. Just adapt it as faithful as you can. The existing fanbase acts as free loud and organic marketing if you turn it into a love letter to them. Hell, the story is already there... you are basically transposing it to a theatrical screenplay. That's it. It's kind of genius in a cynical way. Win/win, right?
This is just fucking hubris by the showrunner/executive creative to go out of their way to fuck things up. And I don't get it. It's self destructive as fuck. And they do it all of the time in almost an insane compulsory trance.
Edit: I am not so much talking about this specific project. Who knows, the director and writer could be giant fans. I am talking about the trend and then the boasting about not doing basic research. For this instance, the producers should be scrambling to shut these fuckers up. The fact this is part of the news cycle shows you how sick the entertainment industry is.
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Because it worked so well with Tolkien, lol. Amazon never learns. What a bunch of morons.
Like a Dragon always was charming and unique because of crazy tonal shifts. the series though is shaping up to be another predictable Yakuza exploration drama.
Like a Dragon always was charming and unique because of crazy tonal shifts. the series though is shaping up to be another predictable Yakuza exploration drama.
newtypepilot
Member
hollywood: fuck the source material!
The_hunter
Member
Not a good sign.