Reptars Revenge
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She will not be extradited. She will plead guilty, they will give her a fine and she will never go there again. That is all that will happen
Amber Heard charged for smuggling her and Johnny Depp's dogs into Australia
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She will not be extradited. She will plead guilty, they will give her a fine and she will never go there again. That is all that will happen
foxuzamaki
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They'll just pay both fines and be on their way
My freedom makes up for your ecosystem filled with deadly kangaroos and 10 foot spiders. Now excuse me while I continue to be free in the greatest nation in the galaxy.
Do you guys get the impression that rabies is just everywhere in the US? While it's true wild animals get it alot, I think like 1 person dies of it a year and domestic pets also very rarely get it.
Stallion Dan
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I don't think another country would do that unless she was an Australian citizen, which she isn't. US would not take kindly to it.
Why wasn't Amber Heard ordered to shoot the dogs herself, while Johnny Depp (in full Jack Sparrow getup) had to watch?
Australia has no guts.
Ovek
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They could have even put that on TV!
Velcro Fly
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Just watched the episode of Criminal Minds she was in the other day.
Also did not realize she was married to Depp
10 years in prison seems ridiculous. I realize she broke the law but I don't think they have to worry about her going to Australia again after this haha. Just fine her while you can I guess.
Also did not realize she was married to Depp
10 years in prison seems ridiculous. I realize she broke the law but I don't think they have to worry about her going to Australia again after this haha. Just fine her while you can I guess.
You know, I think these laws are there to protect us, the people outside of Australia, just as much as they are meant to protect the people of Australia themselves. We all know how murderous and deadly the flora and fauna of Australia can be. Even - and sometimes especially - the cute ones.
Now, rabies? Makes them even more deadly, since even small scratches or bites can infect you. And they will be seemingly docile for short timespans, interspersed with small bouts of intense violence when they have lured their prey in. Perfect for assassins.
So basically, by not allowing rabies in they protect us from being overrun by deadly venomous cuddly ninjas.
If that means two dogs or two actors or whatever have to get quarantined for ten days or fined or shot or sent off to the Kraut mines or whatever, then I'm all for it.
For serious tho, good on the gubbermint. Laws are laws. They're there for a reason. Don't allow someone to evade punishment just because they're rich and/or famous.
Now, rabies? Makes them even more deadly, since even small scratches or bites can infect you. And they will be seemingly docile for short timespans, interspersed with small bouts of intense violence when they have lured their prey in. Perfect for assassins.
So basically, by not allowing rabies in they protect us from being overrun by deadly venomous cuddly ninjas.
If that means two dogs or two actors or whatever have to get quarantined for ten days or fined or shot or sent off to the Kraut mines or whatever, then I'm all for it.
For serious tho, good on the gubbermint. Laws are laws. They're there for a reason. Don't allow someone to evade punishment just because they're rich and/or famous.
CharmingCharlie
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Doesn't do much for me personally, never even heard of this "Amber Heard" till today. At any rate from what I have seen if there is one thing Australia isn't short of it's beautiful women.
I honestly do not understand why some in this topic want to dismiss what the Depps did. The Quarantine laws exist for very good reasons and they only work if everyone respects them. I live in the UK and we used to have harsh Quarantine laws too (they have been relaxed for this pet passport bullshit). They were a key part in making the UK rabies free and keeping it rabies free for 100 years which is an environment that protects me and my pets.
I don't care who you are, what you are or what you do. If you fuck with a countries Quarantine laws then you should have the book thrown at you. I personally think the Australian Government should have confiscated the dogs and put them down. I would expect that to happen to my pets if I ever did what the Depps did.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Bullshit. The WHO (world health organisation) puts USA at 4.5 million dog bites a year. Globally approx 55,000 deaths mostly attributed to rabies.
Next time do your homework before posting misinformed bullshit.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs373/en/
Bro, calm down. The fact that he wasn't so sure in his response, and said "I think like" shows that he was willing to have facts shown to him. No need to be so aggressive.
I'm not quite sure what else you would expect from a civilized country with a large, wide-spread population on a large continent shared by many other nations.
I may not know much about ecology (is that even the right field?) at all but from what I can tell, the main reason that Australia seems to have such a good ecosystem is that it's isolated from the rest of the world. So really, this comment just comes across as incredibly smug to me.
With that said, feel free to correct me!
GoldenEye 007
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Not sure how that link disputes anything the other poster said.
While dog bites may be relatively high in the US, transmission of rabies from them is quite low. Rabies within dogs have been wiped out for the most part. You're most likely to get it from wild animals like bats and raccoons. And the number of deaths is worldwide. That doesn't speak to US death statistics the poster was referring to.
From 2003 to 2013, there have been less than approx. 70 total confirmed human cases of rabies in the US.
http://www.cdc.gov/features/dsrabies/
http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-on-the-rise-as-human-vaccine-supply-tightens
http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/pdf/10.2460/javma.243.6.805
Yes I am smug because I live on an island with no rabies. You got me.
PHOENIXZERO
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So this is how the war with Australia starts...
GoldenEye 007
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I mean I'm sure Australia has some deadly stuff that is absent in the US or other places?
Rabbi_Vole
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Your dingos eat your babies.
Australia doesn't have rabies. We aim to keep it that way. Especially since it's a continent home to so many unique, already endangered animals we don't need to put anymore shit on their plate in the battle against extinction.
There's a pretty painless procedure in place to screen foreign animals coming in to make sure they don't bring diseases like rabies in that Depp and Heard apparently felt didn't apply to them because reasons.
Ooh where's this from?
Darren870
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It's not even just rabies, it's things like lymes which IMO is worse and dogs perfect hosts for ticks.
ChubbyHuggs
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I think it's 3 Days to Kill.
Oy two dingos brought over to the U.S. wouldn't hurt nobody.
i_am_ben
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Certainly wouldn't. Although completely unrelated, missing babies will skyrocket.
ChubbyHuggs
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Brih, we already have the kkk here.
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NinjaFridge
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OMG, they're so cute. Do people really think these little guys can hurt the environment?
Garrett Hawke
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every thread about a female celebrity:
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as for this, yeah she should just plead guilty, pay the fine and not go back. anyone talking about killing the dogs is crazy, as last time I checked they didn't book their own flights and get on the plane to Australia.
- she's attractive
- i don't find her attractive
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as for this, yeah she should just plead guilty, pay the fine and not go back. anyone talking about killing the dogs is crazy, as last time I checked they didn't book their own flights and get on the plane to Australia.
Kevin Costner in 3 Days to Kill, actually quite amusing with a tone that is all over the place. Might be complete trash to some but I enjoyed it.
Anyone else think it's weird that Amber Heard is responsible for it, surely their personal assistants and agents do all that leg work.
Napoleonthechimp
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They broke the law, were told to leave, then were charged and told to come back to face justice.
It kinda seems like they gave them leeway for being celebrities, then changed their mind after they were no longer within their jurisdiction.
If I'm an idiot then be thankful I'm not a part of a pack of them running a country. Otherwise you'd have the Australian government.
PHOENIXZERO
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OMG, they're so cute. Do people really think these little guys can hurt the environment?
Considering how rapidly they can multiply, yes especially if there's competition for their food source.
Where does it show on that web page how many people in the US die of dog bite-induced rabies each year? I can't find it.
In case I'm being too subtle, it says that 10-20 people in the US die of dog bites overall each year, and doesn't even mention how many of those are due to rabies. You're cherry-picking and conflating statistics to lie, while accusing other people of posting "misinformed bullshit."
GoldenEye 007
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It doesn't. I made a post with additional information.
There are generally 1-2 human rabies cases per year in the US.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Yep, 70 vs 1 from the misinformed post, close enough right? /sarcasm. Oh look you did your research and provided source links in place of some made up forum post, it's not difficult to be factually correct with posts. Now include the other animal types and other parasites dogs carry...I also used the words USA in the 4.5mil sentence and Globally in the other 55,000 sentence.
We should just let celebrities with private planes do whatever they want with their pets and our unique ecosystem that is rabies free and far less parasitic than the USA? We all know we'd allow non-famous people the same blatant law breaking without consequence, right?
arts&crafts
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aww I was hoping they would be cute like pitbulls or rottweillers but they are just 2 yorkies
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Subject the dogs to a test, if infected then of course put them down but otherwise enough publicity via a fine is sufficient for raising awareness of our laws.
TAJ
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Divide by 10, then account for animals other than dogs passing the disease and yes it is close. But why actually think when you can spout raw, out-of-context statistics?
They won't learn a lesson unless you have them put their dogs down or unless they go to jail for a few years.
OVER 10 years! Do they teach reading comprehension in Australia? I said about 1 person PER YEAR died in the US from rabies.
GoldenEye 007
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What are you talking about and why are you so angry?
The other poster said like one per year. You cited a global number for some reason. That poster was pretty much correct in their statement so it wasn't bullshit. That 70 number is over a 10 year period and I just eyeballed the table in the link. Actual number is a bit lower.
Even with apparently 4.5 million dog bites, that translates to only 1-2 actual transmissions per year. And the numbers I posted include all types of animals. Not just dog bite transmissions. Transmissions from dogs are actually even more rare. They are generally from bats and racoons or other wild animals.
And sorry, 1-2 human transmissions per year does not mean some "parasitic paradise." Every region has their unique issues that may not affect another.
As for the law, of course it's an issue breaking it. Nobody is saying to let them just skate. But Australiain authorities should have acted immediately, then, rather than so long after the fact. It seems they were able to get in and out of the country with their dog without much issue?
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Here you go, how about 40,000 human rabies cases per year in the USA as reported by CDC (centres for disease control & prevention). Still think I'm being over dramatic calling out posts about only 1 human infection per year in USA? Sure your dog numbers are far lower when not combined with other animals but given rabies in the USA is a long term problem, and on the rise in recent years for cats and dogs, we don't take chances with rabies in Australia in any way shape or form. Let alone USA tick issues too.
1 isn't even close.
http://www.cdc.gov/features/dsrabies/
I'm done posting about the issue, facts are facts. USA have rabies issues, Australia does not. Don't bring animals into our country that you don't declare or investigate our laws prior to bringing them. Don't even start me on fruits and produce either.
Apparently posting facts and calling bullshit is getting angry now on GAF, I have to laugh. Note there is a difference between deaths and infections, rabies infections are prevalent in the US.
I said death, not infection.
GoldenEye 007
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No.... that means 40k get the prophylaxis treatment. It's done as a precaution because it's so effective and it's difficult to find and then test the animal suspected of the bite. That doesn't mean 40k people are actually diagnosed. That number is 1-2 per year.
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