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GPD confirms AMD "Strix Point" Zen5 APUs cost twice as much as "Hawk Point" with Zen4 - VideoCardz.com

AMD Strix Point is (too) expensive Forget about cheap laptops and gaming handhelds? GPD, a manufacturer of gaming handhelds and laptops, recently announced pricing for its Duo laptop, which features two OLED screens. This PC was one of the first devices confirmed to feature AMD’s next-gen APU...

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AMD is selling Strix Point APUs to companies like GPD for twice the price of Hawk Point (Ryzen 7 8840U). This forces companies like GPD to reconsider whether their product can maintain enough margin for a successful launch.

There you go, PS5 Pro got injustica

 

[Comandr]

There you go, PS5 Pro got injustica

Well that makes me real curious what the pricing for the Z2 is going to look like.

 

[acm2000]

not sure what this has to do with ps5 pro price since thats still zen 2

 

[peish]

Well that makes me real curious what the pricing for the Z2 is going to look like.

$999 at least

 

[peish]

not sure what this has to do with ps5 pro price since thats still zen 2

Making new chips is too expensive now. You better invest all your savings into Intel and hope they come back and offer alternative to tsmc

 

[RoboFu]

Don't buy overpriced products and they won't make overpriced products.

This changes nothing.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Making new chips is too expensive now. You better invest all your savings into Intel and hope they come back and offer alternative to tsmc

I'm waiting for the news of the Chinese flooding the world with cheap chips. Just like they did with Solar Panels and electric cars.

 

[Euler007]

TSMC is seeing record demand and most improvements right now boil down to buying more transistors (increased CU, etc). The days of process and design improvements making things twice as fast and twice as cheap are dead. It was a hell of a ride from my first 8086, remember when my friend got a 386 and I was blown away.

Now it's more for more money.

 

[Mownoc]

He is comparing a Ryzen 7 (8840u) to a Ryzen 9 (HX 370).

 

[Dural]

It's built on a different node and is a larger APU (178mm vs 232.5mm), not really a like for like comparison.

Anyone know how much TSMC really has increased their prices? It gets thrown around a lot but I haven't seen any real evidence.

 

[El Muerto]

Cost will likely come down soon. TSMC now has a plant in Arizona thanks to the CHIPS act, with more fabs on the way. They are currently making Apple's A16 chip using a 5nm process.

[News] TSMC Reportedly Begins Small-Scale Production in Arizona for Apple’s A16 with the N4P Node | TrendForce Insights

In early September, rumors have it that TSMC’s first US fab in Arizona began producing engineering wafers using the 4nm process in April, with yields ...

www.trendforce.com

 

[SweetTooth]

What people don't realize that chips and wafer prices has skyrocketed alot last year!!

 

[MikeM]

Shareholder me:


Consumer me:

 

[mckmas8808]

Cost will likely come down soon. TSMC now has a plant in Arizona thanks to the CHIPS act, with more fabs on the way. They are currently making Apple's A16 chip using a 5nm process.

[News] TSMC Reportedly Begins Small-Scale Production in Arizona for Apple’s A16 with the N4P Node | TrendForce Insights

In early September, rumors have it that TSMC’s first US fab in Arizona began producing engineering wafers using the 4nm process in April, with yields ...

www.trendforce.com

HOORAY for the CHIPS act!

 

[diffusionx]

AI Apu

 

[Magic Carpet]

HOORAY for the CHIPS act!

Intel rained on that parade. I've already written my congress demanding that money get repaid with Intel execs mowing my lawn during hot summers.

 

[Dural]

TSMC's average wafer price jumped 22% in one year — nearly all semiconductor industry growth now comes from more expensive products, not higher production volumes

Shipments of 3nm wafers account for 15% of the company's revenues.

www.tomshardware.com

It sounds like the N3 node they're charging quite a bit more than normal. I don't think anything from AMD is using N3, they're on N5 and aren't the PS5 and XSX/S still on N7? Not sure about the PS5 Pro, but I'd assume it's on the N5.

 

[mckmas8808]

Intel rained on that parade. I've already written my congress demanding that money get repaid with Intel execs mowing my lawn during hot summers.

Huh? Why?

 

[Kataploom]

I think we have to wait to see how powerful they are for gaming, for most people they could be an amazing entry point or even normal gaming option, considering it simplifies PC gaming

 

[Magic Carpet]

Huh? Why?

From what I understand Intel shenannigans are delaying the money. Now Congress is demanding answers before forking over the money earmarked for Chips Act.

 

[mckmas8808]

From what I understand Intel shenannigans are delaying the money. Now Congress is demanding answers before forking over the money earmarked for Chips Act.

Oh wow! That's crazy.