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AMD Ryzen Thread: Affordable Core Act
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Depends which part of the globe you're located at.
MSI's motherboard deal is in multiple countries and runs until the end of July: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=242547807&postcount=3381
Amazon US currently has an R5 1500x + motherboard bundle deal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XKVNRSM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
As you can see by the articles posted and GAF commenters across the past few pages, things have improved. Here's a video I came across from a Ryzen owner, chosen somewhat randomly so I'm sure there are others which are better.
Posting this in part because he doesn't sound like a YouTuber or hardware hack. The presentation may not be exciting, but his comments are in line with what I've read or heard from most owners.
DannyzPlay [YouTube] —— My Experience With AMD Ryzen 7 1800X After 3 Months
Ryzen-based Hackintosh systems have become more prevalent since I last posted some here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234045361&postcount=2607
OSXavier —— Hackintosh reportedly working with AMD's new Ryzen Processors!
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/322433-ryzen/#entry2397155
Gigamaxx DonkeyMac [YouTube] —— Ryzen Hackintosh! Sierra Clover USB Installer Guide Part 1
Gigamaxx DonkeyMac [YouTube] —— Ryzen Hackintosh! Clover Disk Drive Edit After USB Install. Part 2 of a multi part series.
bbmatias22 [YouTube] —— ryzen 1700 hackintosh mac os sierra 10.12.5 with gtx 1080ti /problem
黄永龙 [YouTube] —— AMD ryzen 1700 锐龙CPU 成功安装黑苹果系统macOS Sierra 10.12.5
One of the first Hackintosh Ryzen owners has added more vids:
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen 7 1700 // OS X 10.9.5 at macOS 10.12.4
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen 7 1700 CPU // create HDD Installer OS X 10.9.5 on Windows (Part 1)
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen 7 1700 // Clover uefi patched for Ryzen by Bronya // Sierra 10.12.6 beta
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen 5/7 // installer clover usb Sierra 10.12.4 for noob
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— test ScreenFlow 6.1 / AMD GPU/CPU
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— test FCPX 10.3.1 trial // AMD CPU/GPU
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— ScreenFlow123
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— GTX 1050 test GFX Metal macOS 10.12.4 // CPU AMD Ryzen 7 1700 @ 3,0 Ghz
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— test GTX 1050 // CPU AMD Ryzen 7
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— Old Sapphire HD 6670 1024 LP// Ryzen 7 // Mavericks
Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— VoodooHDA // AMD Ryzen // sound HD 88 Khz/24 bit wav 5 Mbit/s / no vidéo, is 320 kbit/s mp3
Has this video been posted?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN5mxFfkr7g
It compares a 1800X to a 7700K running Quake 2 at 1600x1200 in software mode. I didn't even know software mode allowed you to go that high a resolution: back in the day, software mode was smooth at 320x200 and mayyybe at 640x480 if you had like a top-end processor.
it confirms that - without optimisations of any sort - Ryzen is on par with the Intel one, the only difference being the speed of the processor.
He also used a custom software renderer that was optimised for AthlonXP processors, and the results were really impressive, with the AMD CPU rendering about 45% faster than the Intel one. He talks briefly about the optimisations, but that was too technical for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN5mxFfkr7g
It compares a 1800X to a 7700K running Quake 2 at 1600x1200 in software mode. I didn't even know software mode allowed you to go that high a resolution: back in the day, software mode was smooth at 320x200 and mayyybe at 640x480 if you had like a top-end processor.
it confirms that - without optimisations of any sort - Ryzen is on par with the Intel one, the only difference being the speed of the processor.
He also used a custom software renderer that was optimised for AthlonXP processors, and the results were really impressive, with the AMD CPU rendering about 45% faster than the Intel one. He talks briefly about the optimisations, but that was too technical for me.
hmm get the Gigabyte AB350 itx now or wait (I think) a week or two more for the Asrock X370 itx board (I can get either one for same price). Decision decision @_@
Do we have more reviews/unboxing for the Gigabyte or Asrock already? I can only find one youtube video for the Gigabyte lol
Do we have more reviews/unboxing for the Gigabyte or Asrock already? I can only find one youtube video for the Gigabyte lol
There is a review of the gigabyte - https://lanoc.org/review/motherboards/7570-gigabyte-ab350n-gaming-wifi
Buggy Loop
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Gigabyte's layout for connections put me off and i went with ASRock AB350 personally.
I don't need the layout for a giant 1800x wraith cooler for my 1600 in a node 202 like Gigabyte did by displacing the memory to the far edge. (no wraith cooler would even fit anyway in node 202). It's a strange decision, as typically the market for mini-ITX is for SFF builds where i think nobody would bother with stock coolers, i don't even think there's a decent SFF case that would allow the clearance that the wraith max requires.
Trying to fix a problem that a small percentage of peoples would have ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Ah cheers! I'll give it a read
Gigabyte's layout for connections put me off and i went with ASRock AB350 personally.
I don't need the layout for a giant 1800x wraith cooler for my 1600 in a node 202 like Gigabyte did by displacing the memory to the far edge. (no wraith cooler would even fit anyway in node 202). It's a strange decision, as typically the market for mini-ITX is for SFF builds where i think nobody would bother with stock coolers, i don't even think there's a decent SFF case that would allow the clearance that the wraith max requires.
Trying to fix a problem that a small percentage of peoples would have ¯\_(ツ
I don't think you can even buy one right now right? I don't remember seeing the 1800x bundle here, least not in my area (South East Asia). the 1700 I'm getting only has the Wraith Spire.
Anyway, one of the only things that makes me waver a bit from the Asrock is because the Gigabyte has loads of usb ports + 3.1g2 vs Asrock's 6 and lack of g2 ports haha
Buggy Loop
Member
Ah cheers! I'll give it a read
I don't think you can even buy one right now right? I don't remember seeing the 1800x bundle here, least not in my area (South East Asia). the 1700 I'm getting only has the Wraith Spire.
Anyway, one of the only things that makes me waver a bit from the Asrock is because the Gigabyte has loads of usb ports + 3.1g2 vs Asrock's 6 and lack of g2 ports haha
Bought my ASRock AB350 from Vuugo in Canada. I think it's sold out already from newegg in the US though? The boards released last friday in north america, mostly sold out.
The Gigabyte released already here (Singapore) but the Asrock not yet it seems.
FalsettoVibe
Member
I want a somewhat future proof CPU for gaming. Should I get a Ryzen 1700X or a i7-7700k?
There is no "real" future proofing when it comes to hardware sadly but there is a rising trend of more multi threaded games thanks to consoles/APIs like DX12/Vulkan so on that bases Ryzen is the more "future proof" option.
If you want the absolute best/max gaming performance then the i7 is the way to go otherwise if you're willing to sacrifice like 10% or so in highest frames possible for bigger gaind in multi threaded workload/production and such go with Ryzen.
Future-proofing through modularity could be an option. Whenever you want to change your 7700K, you will also have to upgrade your motherboard, RAM, and probably the cooler as well. Next generations of Ryzen will be on AM4 for the next four years, so if you feel your 1700X doesn't serve you well any more, you can just swap the CPU for the 2020 hottest.
metareferential
Member
Assuming he gets a good mobo today with a current Ryzen cpu (not really an issue since choice is still somewhat limited).
And assuming AMD will still be around in 2020...xD
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Yeah, I'd argue that this is the best advantage AMD offers:
It enables you to upgrade in pieces, whereas with Intel you almost always have to upgrade the motherboard and CPU at the same time.
If AMD plans to stick to the AM4 socket until 2020, then it becomes much easier to upgrade in pieces.
New chipset comes out and you want the cool motherboard features? Just get a new mobo and put your current Ryzen in that one.
New Ryzen CPU comes out, but don't want to reinstall and rebuild everything? It should work fine.
If anything, you could do the 1700, then upgrade again when zen 2 (or whatever the next chip is called) comes out. The price difference between the 1700, the X and the 1800 could be used for more ram, a better GPU, etc.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
I dunno, the 2600k was basically handed down from heaven. Mine is still running string, even non overclocked.
I do plan to replace it with a 1700 or 1600 though.
1700X and 1800X overclock better in that they can reach 3.8-4ghz with less voltage but they're still seriously not worth it. Ryzen pretty much brick walls at ~4ghz where you have to put an obscene amount of voltage just to get even 100mhz extra. For all extents and purposes, the R7 1700 achieves exactly the same amount of performance and even comes with one of the best stock heatsinks in recent memory.
Get the R7 1700, punch in 1.25v vcore, punch in 3.8ghz core clock and call it a day. Decrease vcore if you want to want to decrease voltage/heat. The stock cooler that comes with the R7 1700 is actually very good, its actually a vapour chamber and uses a decent Coolermaster fan.
Come to think of it, on Ryzen, is there an option in bios that downclocks the speeds when you're idle or not doing anything intensive? I think it's called speedstep on Intel?
Like I'm at 4.8 if I'm gaming or whatever, but if I'm just browsing or watching some movies, it'll downclock to 2.0, etc.
edit - lol, I should've jsut fucking googled.
Like I'm at 4.8 if I'm gaming or whatever, but if I'm just browsing or watching some movies, it'll downclock to 2.0, etc.
edit - lol, I should've jsut fucking googled.
Look at P state overclocking.
Will do when I actually build the new rig.
For whatever reason, I don't know why I had speedstep disabled for a few months; I didn't think about it until a few days ago when I started mining again and had no reason to run OC'd all the time overnight.
There's a valid argument that there's not really much point P state overclocking. I think someone tested P state overclocks vs. static overclocks and the general power savings are in the 10-20w range for low and medium loads. And that's with a voltage of 1.40v, I imagine the difference is even less on lower voltages.
And really, I don't see the point pushing an extra 0.15v just for 200mhz if you're a general end user. I don't think its worth the effort/time required to test and I don't think its worth the extra heat either.
And really, I don't see the point pushing an extra 0.15v just for 200mhz if you're a general end user. I don't think its worth the effort/time required to test and I don't think its worth the extra heat either.
Amazon has the 1600 for $20 off right now. Went ahead and bought it and the asrock mobo but it won't get here until next week so going to take a few days hunting for ram deals, maybe prime day?
Feel like I should go 16gb but prices are really putting me off, never had any problems with 8gb in current system.
Feels so strange not getting an Intel CPU, first time ever for me. I've always regretted getting amd gpus, hope that doesn't carry over to cpus!
Feel like I should go 16gb but prices are really putting me off, never had any problems with 8gb in current system.
Feels so strange not getting an Intel CPU, first time ever for me. I've always regretted getting amd gpus, hope that doesn't carry over to cpus!
A lot of these motherboards seem to still have the original BIOS loaded so the first thing I'd do is update it to the latest if you don't want to have a bad time.
On a lot of boards, the original BIOS seemed to be rushed and under-validated. My Asrock X370 Taichi refused to boot Windows off a USB stick until I flashed it to the latest BIOS for whatever reason. I would have been shit out of luck if I didn't have a laptop available.
On a lot of boards, the original BIOS seemed to be rushed and under-validated. My Asrock X370 Taichi refused to boot Windows off a USB stick until I flashed it to the latest BIOS for whatever reason. I would have been shit out of luck if I didn't have a laptop available.
Amazon Prime deal of the day Ryzen 1700x for $299.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X3W9NGG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X3W9NGG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Do they still do cool n' quiet?
TC McQueen
Member
When I got my Asrock X370 Gaming K4 at the end of March, it was already on the first BIOS that had the built-in BIOS updater, instead of the earlier stuff, which required DOS.
RumblingRosco
Member
So I ended up getting an MSI B350M Gaming Pro motherboard for my 1700 system. At the time, it checked off all the boxes for the things I needed and it was a decent price, so I nabbed it. Since getting it and having it running for a week now, I see reviews stating that it has some issue with the VRMs being on a 3+2 phase instead of a 4 phase, which I honestly have no idea what that means, but the end result is that it is "bad for overclocking" to some degree.
Now, I got my Ryzen 1700 to 3.7 GHz at 1.275 V and my RAM to 2933 MHz on 1.35 V. CPU idles at around 33C and on Small FTTs in Prime95 it peaks at 66C on my Hyper 212 Plus cooler. So, temperatures seem OK and I'm satisfied with that overclock.
But, is there something I should be understanding about this that I'm missing? Is the motherboard going to in some way shorten the life span of my Ryzen 1700 becuase of this 3+2 vs 4 thing? Or is it just that higher overclocks are harder to achieve on this board?
Now, I got my Ryzen 1700 to 3.7 GHz at 1.275 V and my RAM to 2933 MHz on 1.35 V. CPU idles at around 33C and on Small FTTs in Prime95 it peaks at 66C on my Hyper 212 Plus cooler. So, temperatures seem OK and I'm satisfied with that overclock.
But, is there something I should be understanding about this that I'm missing? Is the motherboard going to in some way shorten the life span of my Ryzen 1700 becuase of this 3+2 vs 4 thing? Or is it just that higher overclocks are harder to achieve on this board?
PowerThroughLov
Member
CPU stability would be the issue. 4 phase VRM gives you a cleaner voltage stream to the CPU. If you are stable, you are fine.
RumblingRosco
Member
OK, thanks. To be honest, a 3.7 GHz OC isn't anything impressive, but I'm happy with it in terms of performance/heat/noise from the coolers at this setting. Never crashed after tweaking the voltage for my Prime95 Small FTT and Blend tests, and has successfully rendered several hours of footage for me, so I'm satisfied. Thanks again.
So i do have some little trouble now..i did D.O.C.P Standard and my memory was running at 3200Mhz. But yesterday and this morning and evening even when i did a cold start my motherbord went in many reboots. It put my memory back to 2400Mhz.
What i did next was the standard gamer profile in the bios and put the memory on 3079Mhz and OCed my processor to 3,7Ghz.
I need to find a sweet spot to run 3200Mhz and processor at 3,8ghz. Help would be nice, i am looking how this is going to work for now.
What i did next was the standard gamer profile in the bios and put the memory on 3079Mhz and OCed my processor to 3,7Ghz.
I need to find a sweet spot to run 3200Mhz and processor at 3,8ghz. Help would be nice, i am looking how this is going to work for now.
Sounds like your board is having trouble cold-booting at the current settings, or your RAM may have some instability at 3200MT/s.
It sounds like it's an ASUS board, check that the RAM boot voltage is set to at least 1.35. Maybe even push that to 1.40V.
You might also want to increase the number of retries to 3 or 5. This was reduced to 1 in recent updates to speed up booting, but some systems seem to have trouble with memory training on cold boots.
Yeah i have a asus and have put up the latest AGESA 1.0.0.6 bios update. Going to try that with the voltage.
Epyc appears to run riot on Intel's home turf:
AnandTech —— Sizing Up Servers: Intel's Skylake-SP Xeon versus AMD's EPYC 7000 - The Server CPU Battle of the Decade?
AnandTech —— Sizing Up Servers: Intel's Skylake-SP Xeon versus AMD's EPYC 7000 - The Server CPU Battle of the Decade?
Developed by the Theoretical and Computational Biophysics Group at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, NAMD is a set of parallel molecular dynamics codes for extreme parallelization on thousands of cores. NAMD is also part of SPEC CPU2006 FP. In contrast with previous FP benchmarks, the NAMD binary is compiled with Intel ICC and optimized for AVX.
(crossposting from I need a new PC threat because RAM is on sale).
I'm still confused about Ryzen and RAM.
I bought the Ryzen 1600. I'm going to pair with this mobo:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762&ignorebbr=1
Can I use this RAM: The mobo says they support 3200/2933/2667/2400/2133. But can't it just run the 3000 at 2933? Or even at 2667 like officially supported?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313841&ignorebbr=1
I'm still confused about Ryzen and RAM.
I bought the Ryzen 1600. I'm going to pair with this mobo:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762&ignorebbr=1
Can I use this RAM: The mobo says they support 3200/2933/2667/2400/2133. But can't it just run the 3000 at 2933? Or even at 2667 like officially supported?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313841&ignorebbr=1
You check compatibility with the memory QVL that the manufacturer posts on its site, in your case http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M Pro4/index.asp#Memory
Your memory is not shown on there so you would buy it on your own risk. 3000 is always run at 2933 if detected correctly.
Amazon has a few motherboards on sale as well.
Are any of those mobos good? None of them are ones I was eying on Newegg and their reviews have numerous 5 stars and 1-2 stars because of issues, but that could always be PEBKAC or based on outdated BIOS. $300 for a 1700X is tempting, but I'm thinking of waiting for Newegg's Black Friday deals to get a good mobo along with it.
Patriot PRESS RELEASE —— Patriot Announces Memory Compatibility with AMD Ryzen™ and AM4 Platforms
Vortez —— Patriot Affirms DDR4 Memory Compatibility with AMD AM4 Platform
I briefly skimmed AnandTech's write-up earlier so I may have missed it, but ComputerBase included some additional slides from the Intel press deck which have around 20+ pages of why AMD Epyc and Zen-based parts are a bad option for clients and users.
Some of you may recall Intel referred to Epyc as "glued-together/stitched together" and vowed to top it (near the bottom of this link): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241391364&postcount=3220
This seems to be the official line and not a throw away comment. The term "glued-together" is repeated multiple times across many of the recent Skylake Xeon slides that compare Intel to AMD:
ComputerBase —— Intel Xeon SP: With Skylake-SP on the Purley platform against AMD Naples [German]
Vortez —— Patriot Affirms DDR4 Memory Compatibility with AMD AM4 Platform
Heise's initial look at Epyc from a few weeks ago is here (with early performance numbers): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241924455&postcount=3285Epyc appears to run riot on Intel's home turf:
AnandTech —— Sizing Up Servers: Intel's Skylake-SP Xeon versus AMD's EPYC 7000 - The Server CPU Battle of the Decade?
Developed by the Theoretical and Computational Biophysics Group at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, NAMD is a set of parallel molecular dynamics codes for extreme parallelization on thousands of cores. NAMD is also part of SPEC CPU2006 FP. In contrast with previous FP benchmarks, the NAMD binary is compiled with Intel ICC and optimized for AVX.
I briefly skimmed AnandTech's write-up earlier so I may have missed it, but ComputerBase included some additional slides from the Intel press deck which have around 20+ pages of why AMD Epyc and Zen-based parts are a bad option for clients and users.
Some of you may recall Intel referred to Epyc as "glued-together/stitched together" and vowed to top it (near the bottom of this link): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241391364&postcount=3220
This seems to be the official line and not a throw away comment. The term "glued-together" is repeated multiple times across many of the recent Skylake Xeon slides that compare Intel to AMD:
ComputerBase —— Intel Xeon SP: With Skylake-SP on the Purley platform against AMD Naples [German]
Intel Press Workshop page 4 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/47/
Intel Press Workshop page 5 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/48/
Intel Press Workshop page 6 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/49/
Intel Press Workshop page 7 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/50/
Intel Press Workshop page 8 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/51/
Intel Press Workshop page 9 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/52/
Intel Press Workshop page 10 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/53/
Intel Press Workshop page 11 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/54/
Intel Press Workshop page 12 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/55/
Intel Press Workshop page 13 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/56/
Intel Press Workshop page 14 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/57/
Intel Press Workshop page 15 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/58/
Intel Press Workshop page 16 - ???
Intel Press Workshop page 17 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/59/
Intel Press Workshop page 18 - ???
Intel Press Workshop page 19 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/60/
Intel Press Workshop page 20 - ???
Intel Press Workshop page 21 - ???
Intel Press Workshop page 22 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/61/
Intel Press Workshop page 23 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/62/
Intel Press Workshop page 24 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/63/
Intel Press Workshop page 25 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/64/
Intel Press Workshop page 26 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/65/
Intel Press Workshop page 27 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/66/
Intel Press Workshop page 28 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/67/
Intel Press Workshop page 5 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/48/
Intel Press Workshop page 6 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/49/
Intel Press Workshop page 7 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/50/
Intel Press Workshop page 8 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/51/
Intel Press Workshop page 9 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/52/
Intel Press Workshop page 10 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/53/
Intel Press Workshop page 11 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/54/
Intel Press Workshop page 12 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/55/
Intel Press Workshop page 13 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/56/
Intel Press Workshop page 14 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/57/
Intel Press Workshop page 15 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/58/
Intel Press Workshop page 16 - ???
Intel Press Workshop page 17 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/59/
Intel Press Workshop page 18 - ???
Intel Press Workshop page 19 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/60/
Intel Press Workshop page 20 - ???
Intel Press Workshop page 21 - ???
Intel Press Workshop page 22 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/61/
Intel Press Workshop page 23 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/62/
Intel Press Workshop page 24 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/63/
Intel Press Workshop page 25 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/64/
Intel Press Workshop page 26 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/65/
Intel Press Workshop page 27 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/66/
Intel Press Workshop page 28 - https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/67/
LOL, I guess that's Intel in attack mode. AnandTech didn't mention anything of it, neither did ServeTheHome (who still haven't released any Epcy benchmarks despite having the hardware for ages now, fishy now that they published a mountain of Xeon articles). So ComputerBase may be the first to make those public.·feist·;243234591 said:
Must be pretty embarrassing to Intel to have to diss Epyc that much and still have the Xeon fare worse than it in many areas.
Edit: That article is a comedy goldmine.
Edit2: @·feist· The missing slides all seem to be for detailing the system configurations used.
Buggy Loop
Member
Wow, i've never ever seen Intel act like this. It's very telling.
I would personally not put emphasis that the competition's processor, that is wiping the floor in performance/price with mine, is "glued together", what does that make of Xeon then? And on top of that Intel downclocked Ryzen 1800X to 2.2 GHz? Not even EPYC? Comparing their server processor to AMD's gaming? Plus gaming driver woes as a discussion for servers?
I would personally not put emphasis that the competition's processor, that is wiping the floor in performance/price with mine, is "glued together", what does that make of Xeon then? And on top of that Intel downclocked Ryzen 1800X to 2.2 GHz? Not even EPYC? Comparing their server processor to AMD's gaming? Plus gaming driver woes as a discussion for servers?
Azzurri
Member
I was browsing AMDs reddit and anadtech write up on the new Intel server chips.
To me it seems Intel is scared honestly, throwing so much shit at AMD; yet, their chips aren't above and beyond and in a lot of cases worse than AMD EPYC.
Can't forget the price too, $4200 for AMD EPYC top of the line against Intel's 10k plus chip
To me it seems Intel is scared honestly, throwing so much shit at AMD; yet, their chips aren't above and beyond and in a lot of cases worse than AMD EPYC.
Can't forget the price too, $4200 for AMD EPYC top of the line against Intel's 10k plus chip
Buggy Loop
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q17TjAzUb1s
It seems the Gigabyte AB350 ITX has a too small VRM heatsink and it exceeds Gigabyte's own recommended limit temps on all Ryzen except 1500x and under. And bad bios.
Glad i went ASRock (no review though lol, might be worst)
It seems the Gigabyte AB350 ITX has a too small VRM heatsink and it exceeds Gigabyte's own recommended limit temps on all Ryzen except 1500x and under. And bad bios.
Glad i went ASRock (no review though lol, might be worst)
I would be surprised. ASRock seem to be the brand to get for mITX boards.
They focus on that a lot more than other brands do.