Better ECC ram support?Yes. Better binned chip likely like that other TR parts so more likely to hit 4Ghz on all cores maybe even more.
Up to 1TB Ram if you have the 128GB dimms for it 😁
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AMD Ryzen Thread: Affordable Core Act
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Up to 1TB Ram if you have the 128GB dimms for it 😁
I would get a new cooler right away that cover the CPU properly instead of using that old crap with the mounting device that is included in the box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpvGYxaMLc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpvGYxaMLc0
RumblingRosco
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I would get a new cooler right away that cover the CPU properly instead of using that old crap with the mounting device that is included in the box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpvGYxaMLc0
Yeah... seems quite limiting as-is.
Reading the GamersNexus article now. Doesn't seem as bad as it looks, but still reading more.
Sir Abacus
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Übermatik;245300928 said:
This thing is a monster but I really hope that torque wrenches and torque specs for CPU socket screws don't become an in-fashion thing in the consumer market.
RumblingRosco
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The second hand value will be insane on those if they do. Insane for a damn screwdriver alternative, anyway.
I would get a new cooler right away that cover the CPU properly instead of using that old crap with the mounting device that is included in the box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpvGYxaMLc0
If you watch the video he explains that the cooler does seem to cover the actual CPU dies under the IHS, just barely but it does. I had to go look it up because I kept seeing shots just like this one with barely any thermal grease on the chip lol
Sir Abacus
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I get why they're doing it. It's a massive chip and it's LGA. You turn them too tight you're liable to straight up bend the pins. The mechanical advantage that the force from the corners is going have is going to be insane given its sheer size. But I'm not sure why they didn't just go with springs around regular screws.
Just_myles
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Nice touch on the title OP.
So you would spend 1k on a system and then use a legacy cooler that dosent even cover the IHS to save 80?
That GamerNexus one looks initially shocking, but it seems that while sub-optimal it should work. Whelp, I might be eventually returning a cooler if it doesn't and getting something that does. Noctua can't release their TR4 coolers soon enough.
That HardOCP install video were Kyle bent the LGA pins is kind of freaky. I've worked with Intel LGA stuff before, but that's always a worry.
That HardOCP install video were Kyle bent the LGA pins is kind of freaky. I've worked with Intel LGA stuff before, but that's always a worry.
I wouldn't, but if people have expensive watercooling setups they are running already it's good to know that it should be ok.
But I guess wait to see what the temps really look like when the NDA period is over.
EKWB Socket TR4/SP3 adapter for Threadripper/Epyc.
This would be the first I've seen of it.
The cooler is their now discontinued Predator in 140mm guise, though it uses a standard Supremacy EVO waterblock, instead of the "bolted" version found on most Predators.
EK-XLC Predator 140
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xlc-predator-140
Switchtech announced TR4 compatibility with their Apogee SKF, though didn't released installed photos at the time: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243948921&postcount=3584
Alphacool's TR4 kit can be seen here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=244732872&postcount=3723
This would be the first I've seen of it.
The cooler is their now discontinued Predator in 140mm guise, though it uses a standard Supremacy EVO waterblock, instead of the "bolted" version found on most Predators.
EK-XLC Predator 140
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xlc-predator-140
Switchtech announced TR4 compatibility with their Apogee SKF, though didn't released installed photos at the time: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243948921&postcount=3584
Alphacool's TR4 kit can be seen here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=244732872&postcount=3723
JonnyDBrit
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To be honest it does rather feel like the included bracket with TR is mainly a stopgap measure so that high end users - people that are more likely to use an AIO or other watercooling solution I'd say - can get straight into the new CPU without having to potentially wait on additional parts.
But hey, suppose viewers can get a good number of vids examining thermals via different mounting types.
But hey, suppose viewers can get a good number of vids examining thermals via different mounting types.
Louis Cyphre
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·feist·;245168205 said:
That's a good video of JayzTwoCents calling out Intel and Nvidia while eagerly anticipating Threadripper.
RumblingRosco
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Some new gaming benchmarks between the 1700 and 7700k.
7700k still is pretty decisively king for pure gaming based on these results at 1080p, 1440p, or 4K. But, it isn't a crippling disadvantage for Ryzen IMO.
7700k still is pretty decisively king for pure gaming based on these results at 1080p, 1440p, or 4K. But, it isn't a crippling disadvantage for Ryzen IMO.
Those Dota 2 benchmarks :|
Colbert
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I would go R7 1700 anyway because of the versatility of use cases you have a decent amount of performance for!
They always test the extreme ends - either streaming or pure clean gaming.
I'm wondering about having regular apps running while gaming... like Spotify, many Chrome tabs, various game clients, voice chat, Excel, W10 svchost shenanigans, etc
Sir Abacus
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This is why the KBL vs Ryzen is so frustrating for me. I am this video. I'm a 1440p 144Hz setup and the deltas are just not encouraging. That 4.9GHz CPU clock on the 7700K is just ridiculous. I don't stream gameplay and all my other stuff like watching Twitch on a second monitor is all hardware accelerated so it's barely a blip in CPU time. I'm thankful that CFL is going to be 6C/12T because that's probably going to make the choice much easier, fingers crossed. Who knows, I might read the Threadripper benchmarks and go for the 1900X if the boards are good enough quality. I expect having so many PCI-E lanes to spare you could get some killer NVMe RAID happening.
JonnyDBrit
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LinusTechTips - Alienware Area-51 THREADRIPPER EDITION
Linus and co were allowed to review the Alienware unit they got sent for LTX prior to formal embargo lifting on Threadripper proper.
Linus and co were allowed to review the Alienware unit they got sent for LTX prior to formal embargo lifting on Threadripper proper.
Sir Abacus
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Da fuq? A single 120mm radiator?!? For Threadripper?!?
I've seen prebuild companies do some really dumb shit in my time but that takes the cake.
·feist·;244828863 said:
HotHardware [YouTube] Threadripper Emergency CPU Transplant! Alienware Area 51 Threadripper Edition
We tear down the Alienware Area-51 Threadripper Edition and give it an AMD Threadripper 1950X transplant with a new retail chip for MOAR POWAH! And all that geek stuff. Enjoy!
JonnyDBrit
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·feist·;245474949 said:
Aha, thank you.
Makes me wonder how widespread these pre-production CPUs will be.
All that money and they put 2666 MT memory in it...Is it overclocked?
That is chintzy as heck, but I guess not bad for a 120mm radiator on a 16 core cpu, which isn't covering the processor fully (or is it?). 240mm+ should be pretty decent.
Ryzen Mobile
Notebookcheck Confirmed: Lenovo's AMD ThinkPads A275 and A475 are based on the X270 and T470
http://productspec.ul.com/canada/document.php?id=NWGQ7.E200693
Newegg Studios [YouTube] Introducing: Aorus X399 Gaming 7 + AMD Threadripper
Notebookcheck Confirmed: Lenovo's AMD ThinkPads A275 and A475 are based on the X270 and T470
http://productspec.ul.com/canada/document.php?id=NWGQ7.E200693
Newegg Studios [YouTube] Introducing: Aorus X399 Gaming 7 + AMD Threadripper
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGaxUcfUwAAkrNp.jpg:large
Unknown Soldier
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So uh, what's going on here? Apparently people are now able to reproduce a problem where Ryzen falls over under heavy workloads due to segmentation faults.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Test-Stress-Run
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-segv-continues&num=1
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Test-Stress-Run
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-segv-continues&num=1
Stuff like this happens. Skylake/Kabylake also have a similar HyperThreading bug that was addressed recently (but not pushed out by all MoBo manufacturers).
There seem to be a couple of different issues being brought up.
Some of the tests seem to be generating segfaults on other platforms too, so it's looking like it's not a Ryzen-specific issue.
I'd expect microcode updates to be released if there is anything Ryzen-specific which needs to be addressed though.
As 3x0 says, it's probably not something to be concerned about. CPUs often have big lists of errata. There are currently 102 on the 7th Generation Intel® Processor Family Specification Update for example.
thelastword
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Pairing Threadripper with 2666Mhz memory is a travesty when it can do 4000Mhz Memory......I mean, if your'e going to purchase such a beastly machine, you have to go all out and get the best parts for best performance....
RumblingRosco
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I need to get a 1950X, then pair it with a GT710 and 4 GB of DDR4 1600 MHz. See what kind of benchmarks we can pull off if you just fuck it all up.
Louis Cyphre
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This is something I have been dealing with for awhile now, I downloaded the Ryzen power plan for my Windows 10 PC but those settings never stay. I tried to edit it, I used the troubleshoot guide and set it to default but no matter what it never stays on Ryzen balanced when I reboot my PC.
MrCunningham
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New benchmark video from Digital Foundry comparring the R5 1600 and 1600x to the i5 7600k : https://youtu.be/4RMbYe4X2LI
The 7600k still wins on single core performance, and can be overclocked to 4.8ghz. So in some cases it can achieve higher framerates in games. But the 1600 and 1600x handle themselves better under scenes that require heavier workloads, and just demolish the 7600k in multi threaded performance and showcase supperior frametimes. Also shows what a good bargain the 1600 is, expecially with the stock cooler that is included with it.
The 7600k still wins on single core performance, and can be overclocked to 4.8ghz. So in some cases it can achieve higher framerates in games. But the 1600 and 1600x handle themselves better under scenes that require heavier workloads, and just demolish the 7600k in multi threaded performance and showcase supperior frametimes. Also shows what a good bargain the 1600 is, expecially with the stock cooler that is included with it.
RumblingRosco
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I've noticed that no matter what recording software I use, my Ryzen 1700 eats it all for breakfast. I've played with Shadowplay, OBS, Fraps, and DXStory and none of them have any negative impact on my in-game FPS as far as I can tell. Something beautiful about having so many extra cores just sitting around waiting for work.
Shin
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Digital Foundry: Ryzen 5 1600/ 1600X vs Core i5 7600K review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RMbYe4X2LI
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This is the first time I've ever considered an AMD CPU, stutter is a big issue for me and it looks like Ryzen 5 cleans that up nicely in most games.
Shin
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It's a good video review, best of all though as to why I would choose a Ryzen is the mainboard switch that Intel keeps forcing, it's freakin' annoying as hell.
Not to mention the cost associated with it, in that sense you're good with Ryzen till Zen 3 (2019 and little beyond).
The money saved there can go to faster and/or more RAM or a beefier GPU that itself would probably give a better boost than Intel.
Not to mention the cost associated with it, in that sense you're good with Ryzen till Zen 3 (2019 and little beyond).
The money saved there can go to faster and/or more RAM or a beefier GPU that itself would probably give a better boost than Intel.
Souldestroyer Reborn
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Great video. I'm going to pairing a Ryzen 5 1600 with my GTX 1060, so the end of the video was perfect to help me feel comfortable with my choice!
MrCunningham
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Yeah, the lack of frame stutter in Rise of the Tomb Raider, AC Unity and FC3 really is a good selling point. Those 6 cores and 12 threads make a big difference in cases like this.
Digital Foundry videos are so good. They are unmatched at getting all of the info you want in a deep review into video form.
getting kind of sick of the benchmarked games tho
good for easy comparisons to previous tests, but I'm craving for an update
family_guy
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I've got a Ryzen build I'm about to put together, but I was doing just fine with my old 3570k build. I almost wonder if I should have waited to see how Coffee Lake performs since I have to buy a new motherboard either way and will keep the same computer for 5 years or so. Oh well. It will be interesting to see how things turn out over the next 12 months.