Integrated graphics will be faster.
Ryzen doesnt have integrated graphics right now, or did I miss something?
My kids will get the G4560, I'm doing a Ryzen build.
Integrated graphics will be faster.
Ryzen doesnt have integrated graphics right now, or did I miss something?
My kids will get the G4560, I'm doing a Ryzen build.
Bright side:Finding out today that all AM4 boards only support DDR4 RAM breaks my heart after I bought 8 GB more of DDR3 RAM last year. Now I have 16GB of RAM that I can't use with my new Ryzen 1700X and have to now spend another $150+ to get 16GB of DDR4 RAM.
The Scythe Mugen 5 looks like a silent and compact beast, according to reviews. It's slightly more than $40, but it does appear to come with an AM4 bracket, unless you get one of the old stock, in which case you can get one sent to you for free.
https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-Mugen-Cooler-Sealed-Precision/dp/B01M6CR4GH/
You could also look at the Scythe Fuma if you don't mind the two-fan double tower style, which comes with RAM clearance issues. It's around the same price as the Mugen 5 but with better performance. You can get an AM4 bracket for it off Amazon, or from their website.
If you absolutely must stay below $40, the cryorig H7 is probably your best bet. You need cryorig to send you the AM4 bracket however.
Scythe FUMA comes with an am4 bracket. One of the reasons I bought it. Also one of the best coolers for the price. One of the fans sits a little higher to clear the ram, but it doesnt hurt performance one bit.
It doesn't, but it's coming.
Reviews show FUMA at slightly better than dh-15 performance, 10mm shorter, and half the price.... Damn...Looks like you're right. At some point they started including them. The fuma really is super impressive. It basically has the performance of a dh-15 for half the price. And I prefer the aesthetic vs the noctua's.
I'm not sure why I don't see the fuma and the Mugen 5 recommended more often.
Those Threadripper mobos are so expensive, didn't think they be that much seeing how the cpu's are cheap relative to Intel's offerings.
Those Threadripper mobos are so expensive, didn't think they be that much seeing how the cpu's are cheap relative to Intel's offerings.
Finding out today that all AM4 boards only support DDR4 RAM breaks my heart after I bought 8 GB more of DDR3 RAM last year. Now I have 16GB of RAM that I can't use with my new Ryzen 1700X and have to now spend another $150+ to get 16GB of DDR4 RAM.
CataclysmZA:
Now that it's out, I can tell you guys that according to people I know who've had the platform for ages, clocking up to 4.0GHz is a much easier affair than Ryzen 7. Many more chips are capable of it, and it's more stable at those speeds as well.
Congrats. Seems the pre-launch interest is translating into decent early sales.Finally pulled the trigger on a 1950x with ASROCK X399 Taichi. That's about 5+ months of vacillating to get on the Ryzen train.
·feist·;244828863 said:MSI® HOW-TO CHANNEL [YouTube] MSI® HOW-TO Install AMD X399 CPU
In this demonstration, we'll show you how to install AMD X399 CPU on MSI X399 series motherboard.
All of our X399 boards share core DNA that includes one-touch overclocking, refined cooling control, and improved RGB lighting. Yet they each have their own distinct flavor as well. The ROG Zenith Extreme brings Threadripper into the world of premium dream PCs with provisions for custom liquid cooling and 10G networking. With the Strix X399-E Gaming, hardcore gamers can build stylish rigs with power to spare for high-quality streaming. And then theres the Prime X399-A and its well-rounded foundation channeling the professional side of the platforms prodigious power. Which X399 motherboard should you buy for your build? Lets find out.
Bigger engines need better cooling
Threadrippers hardware adds up to a relatively high TDP of 180W. To improve thermal dissipation for the power circuitry quenching the processors thirst, our X399 boards pipe heat from the VRMs to a finned radiator and fan discreetly tucked under the I/O shield. The fan only spins up when necessary, so its silent for everyday tasks but responsive when you need a cooling boost.
Hardware Unboxed: Ryzen 7 1700 vs. Core i7-7820X, 8-Core Royal Rumble!
Overclocking the 1700 to 4 GHz and pairing it with high speed memory (in this vid, 3200 Mhz vs 2666) seems to bring it nipping at the heels of the 7820X.
Please note that the NH-U14S TR4-SP3, NH-U12S TR4-SP3 and NH-U9 TR4-SP3 [are] dedicated versions for the AMD TR4/SP3 socket. Due to [their] customised larger base, [TR4-SP3 coolers] cannot be used on any other sockets and [are] incompatible with Noctuas standard mounting kits.
Tailored custom version for TR4/SP3 (Ryzen Threadripper / Epyc)
At 70x56mm, the copper contact surface of the TR4-SP3 version is more than double the size of the standard model. Tailored to fit the enormous integrated heat-spreaders (IHS) of AMDs TR4/SP3-based processors, this customised design allows for an optimal heat flow from the CPU over the base to the heatpipes and on to the cooling fins.
Offset mounting options for better PCIe clearance
In order to assure optimal compatibility with SLI and CrossFire multi-GPU setups, the SecuFirm2 mounting for TR4/SP3 makes it possible to offset the cooler by 3 or 6mm towards the upper edge of the motherboard, thereby increasing clearance of the top PCIe slot.
Pricing and Availability
All Noctua TR4-SP3 CPU coolers should hit retail stores by the end of August. The suggested retail price is available below:
- NH-U14S TR4-SP3: EUR 79.90 / USD 79.90
- NH-U12S TR4-SP3: EUR 69.90 / USD 69.90
- NH-U9 TR4-SP3: EUR 69.90 / USD 69.90
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Ok so I'm banging my head here about ram.
I've got a
Ryzen 1700x
Asus X370-F (bios 809)
2x CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W
The ram is listed under the QVL on Asus' site and installed i'm only getting 2133mhz of speed and half the installed memory. When I remove the secondary kit. I still get the same speed and memory size. Am I going insane? or is this board not able to use all 4 of it's dimm slots? The manual talks about installing ram like I have in other dual channel set ups, but this is.... frustrating.
I've already tried reaching out to Asus and they aren't helpful at all.
Yeah, I made the mistake(correct decision?) of ordering 64GBs of Hynix M-die before RAM prices jumped up... ...so, before Ryzen reviews....You really should have gotten Samsung B-die RAM single rank, Ryzen motherboards like it, not Hynix so much. This is a pretty good summary of what memory sticks to look for. 4 slots isn't ideal, but should still work faster than 2133. Even with Samsung B-die, I'm not sure if you can get full 3200 speeds when using all 4 slots. Might have to settle for 3000 speeds - if you are using all 4 slots and hynix ram, I wouldn't even bother aiming for 3200, try 2933 to begin with. In any case, something is majorly wrong if you can't go above 2133. You can try setting the RAM at higher voltages, you definitely need to start with 1.35 V and possibly go as high as 1.4 V for RAM, and you need to raise SOC voltage too, starting with 1.1 V SOC and going as high as 1.2 V SOC (under 1.2 is preferable).
Is that Bios the latest 1.0.0.6a AGESA update (update to make memory more compatible)? The other thing you might have to change is memory subtimings, but the computer should at least boot with higher speeds without messing with subtimings. For memory subtiming stuff, you can shut off Gear Down Mode (GDM), BGS (forgot what it stands for), and power down if that is an option. I'd also disable Cool n quiet which I think is in the CPU section.
What is the version number on the RAM stick?Ok so I'm banging my head here about ram.
I've got a
Ryzen 1700x
Asus X370-F (bios 809)
2x CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W
The ram is listed under the QVL on Asus' site and installed i'm only getting 2133mhz of speed and half the installed memory. When I remove the secondary kit. I still get the same speed and memory size. Am I going insane? or is this board not able to use all 4 of it's dimm slots? The manual talks about installing ram like I have in other dual channel set ups, but this is.... frustrating.
I've already tried reaching out to Asus and they aren't helpful at all.
The QVL for that motherboard specifically states "ver4.31" for that RAM kit, and shows it as supporting v4.31 in only 2 DIMMs at 3200MT/s. Running v4.31 in all 4 DIMMs at lower speed may be possible with tweaks, though it seems as though you have the Hynix version.Ok so I'm banging my head here about ram.
I've got a
Ryzen 1700x
Asus X370-F (bios 809)
2x CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W
The ram is listed under the QVL on Asus' site and installed i'm only getting 2133mhz of speed and half the installed memory. When I remove the secondary kit. I still get the same speed and memory size. Am I going insane? or is this board not able to use all 4 of it's dimm slots? The manual talks about installing ram like I have in other dual channel set ups, but this is.... frustrating.
I've already tried reaching out to Asus and they aren't helpful at all.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=240699265&postcount=3101·feist·;231164071 said:『 CPU Core Scaling + Memory Scaling 』
Ryzen *RAM* Compatibility, Overclocking, Performance Scaling
Ok so I'm banging my head here about ram.
I've got a
Ryzen 1700x
Asus X370-F (bios 809)
2x CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W
The ram is listed under the QVL on Asus' site and installed i'm only getting 2133mhz of speed and half the installed memory. When I remove the secondary kit. I still get the same speed and memory size. Am I going insane? or is this board not able to use all 4 of it's dimm slots? The manual talks about installing ram like I have in other dual channel set ups, but this is.... frustrating.
I've already tried reaching out to Asus and they aren't helpful at all.
wow that is disappointing...
I know Ryzen was a bit annoying about ram, but this is something else. The motherboard manufactures do not properly warn customers of the complexity surrounding this issue. If I would have known beforehand I would not have made the choice to buy the ram I did. I now have no options when it comes to returning the ram.
color me annoyed
http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-cpu-not-compatible-200-series-motherboards/
Expected but very poor from Intel. These are meant to compete with the R5's but if everyone has to shell out for a new Intel 300-series mobo the comparative cost compared to Ryzen is going to potentially be significantly higher.
True, but comparable Intel boards are more expensiveIn reality tho I assume most people getting Rzyens are coming from 2500ks and such and would have to get a new mobo either way.
Damn how many unbox videos did you watch ?Unboxing videos going up on Youtube. AMD definitely seems confident with this launch with all the fancy stuff they're throwing in. Seems that they're sending these to 250 tech reviewers, and each of them gets a (presumably non-functional) CPU engraved with their logo on it. Bitwit's is 32/250, JayzTwoCents 37/250, Paul's Hardware 40/250, Hardware Unboxed 106/250.
Intel does it again!http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-cpu-not-compatible-200-series-motherboards/
Expected but very poor from Intel. These are meant to compete with the R5's but if everyone has to shell out for a new Intel 300-series mobo the comparative cost compared to Ryzen is going to potentially be significantly higher.
Damn how many unbox videos did you watch ?
Unboxing videos going up on Youtube. AMD definitely seems confident with this launch with all the fancy stuff they're throwing in. Seems that they're sending these to 250 tech reviewers, and each of them gets a (presumably non-functional) CPU engraved with their logo on it. Bitwit's is 32/250, JayzTwoCents 37/250, Paul's Hardware 40/250, Hardware Unboxed 106/250.
AMD should be ecstatic. Intel can't touch the Threadripper
TR seems pretty sweet. I have my Ryzen 7 1700 build, but if in the future I needed something more hardcore.... TR would be rad. :O
Not sure my wife would be happy if I spent $1k on a CPU though lol.
A piece of me almost regrets building my R1700 build a month ago. Like, had a waited, I could have spent $1,000 more on something I didn't even have a real use for! BUT THE PACKAGING.
AMD really has me hyped lately.
Übermatik;245300928 said:The promotional packaging for THREADRIPPER is absolutely insane: https://youtu.be/s0H65usXsuU?t=533
Hardware Unboxed: Ryzen 7 1700 vs. Core i7-7820X, 8-Core Royal Rumble!
Overclocking the 1700 to 4 GHz and pairing it with high speed memory (in this vid, 3200 Mhz vs 2666) seems to bring it nipping at the heels of the 7820X.
Enjoyed that more than I ought. Packaging is pretty special but why not when these cost close to a grand each.
I'm waiting on the 8-core threadripper part (1900X). Once that comes out, I'll work on saving up to order parts for a new rig. I already have a GTX1080, but I feel like my 3770K is getting long in the tooth even though it's OC'd to 4.4Ghz.
Edit: I wonder what will be the best bang for your buck motherboard when it comes to features, overclocking performance, and reliability. I do find it odd that Asus' flagship motherboard has EVERYTHING, but bluetooth. They give the Strix gaming board bluetooth 4.2, but remove the DAC from the onboard sound...odd choices.
I presume you intended to quote one of the unboxing vids?
I'm waiting on the 8-core threadripper part (1900X). Once that comes out, I'll work on saving up to order parts for a new rig. I already have a GTX1080, but I feel like my 3770K is getting long in the tooth even though it's OC'd to 4.4Ghz.
Edit: I wonder what will be the best bang for your buck motherboard when it comes to features, overclocking performance, and reliability. I do find it odd that Asus' flagship motherboard has EVERYTHING, but bluetooth. They give the Strix gaming board bluetooth 4.2, but remove the DAC from the onboard sound...odd choices.
I'm waiting on the 8-core threadripper part (1900X). Once that comes out, I'll work on saving up to order parts for a new rig. I already have a GTX1080, but I feel like my 3770K is getting long in the tooth even though it's OC'd to 4.4Ghz.
Edit: I wonder what will be the best bang for your buck motherboard when it comes to features, overclocking performance, and reliability. I do find it odd that Asus' flagship motherboard has EVERYTHING, but bluetooth. They give the Strix gaming board bluetooth 4.2, but remove the DAC from the onboard sound...odd choices.
So what is the main difference between 1700x and 1900x other than the later has more PCI-E lanes?