milanbaros
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I'd be happy with this. Don't want to pay for other people's baggage and if people are willing to pay for assigned seating then good for them.
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American Airlines new lower-class fare (no pre-assigned seat, no carry-on luggage)
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LegendofJoe
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Yep, if I'm paying for it those are the only two airlines I'll use.
titiklabingapat
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Fucking Spirit and thier model is leaking to other airlines.
shira
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They always use the term "complimentary"
This is how corporations get away witth this.
You seriously think these 'cheaper' tickets are going to stay at whatever introductory price level they start at? What's going to happen is that the prices will gradually increase to where they are for regular coach seats and current coach prices will go up.
It's a price hike for everybody.
GoldenEye 007
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That would be the point of this fare, though. It would be to avoid people booking this lowest fare, then expecting to be able to use the overhead bin. This way, they don't "get over" on booking that lowest fare. But yes, people will be pissed regardless lol.
Not really. It's free if done as a courtesy. Agents will ask people to check if the flight is full and they know they will run out of space. But I guess if they measure it and the bag is too big, they can charge.
Zoe
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And I'm assuming they'll actually be checking it in with the rest of checked luggage.
Alaska is great, but man they have some old jets that need to be updated ASAP.
I flew the Disneyland plane SEA-ANC, no in seat power, minimal amount of leg room compared to all their other jets, and the air crew seemed pissed off for some reason. Wasn't a great flight
Virgin should just open more routes, especially to the east coast.
I gotta wonder how much cheaper are the seats? Cause when you have to spend 100 dollars extra (unless you are a very light packer or just going on a few days trip you're going to want at least one bag that doesn't fit underneath the seat) to take your bag I'd expect that gets back to "normal" ticket price.
Seems this is really a way of tricking people into thinking they are cheaper or for the savy person who really can pack that light or is just going on a short trip.
Anyways, kinda sleezy imho as I bet with the extra fee they put on top for checking in your bag (that you have to pay if you have this cheap fare), it's not that much cheaper if at all than their next tier up. And I bet not cheaper than the airlines they claim this fare is to compete with.
Seems this is really a way of tricking people into thinking they are cheaper or for the savy person who really can pack that light or is just going on a short trip.
Anyways, kinda sleezy imho as I bet with the extra fee they put on top for checking in your bag (that you have to pay if you have this cheap fare), it's not that much cheaper if at all than their next tier up. And I bet not cheaper than the airlines they claim this fare is to compete with.
Fewer people bringing giant carry-ons onto planes is a good thing. But I'm not a fan of the lack of seat selection, as it'll probably make traveling as a family even more difficult (the old Southwest unassigned seats method was the best).
Flying is significantly better for the environment than driving.
Flying is significantly better for the environment than driving.
I wouldn't mind this becoming a trend; I hope it has "levels" though. I'd like to pay for an assigned seat but also get a small discount since I don't ever use overhead bins.
The nice thing about this option is that for those of us willing to pay for assigned seats it will increase the amount of seats available.
The nice thing about this option is that for those of us willing to pay for assigned seats it will increase the amount of seats available.
I got the email about this earlier. Whatever you save in the fare you will likely have to pay back in the bag fee.
Also, the picture of the rows have almost zero leg room. I am 6'5 260, I am not fitting in those damn seats. It says it is the same seats as the main cabin but it doesnt look like it.
American and other airlines are just getting worse and worse. You already have to pay extra to get an aisle or window seat in coach. Just trying to get every dollar out of the customer.
Also, the picture of the rows have almost zero leg room. I am 6'5 260, I am not fitting in those damn seats. It says it is the same seats as the main cabin but it doesnt look like it.
American and other airlines are just getting worse and worse. You already have to pay extra to get an aisle or window seat in coach. Just trying to get every dollar out of the customer.
Cotton McKnight
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Looks like I'll drive everywhere, my poor car-sick wife.
GoldenEye 007
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Seems like this is only true if the flight is pretty much full. It's close, though.
Which I guess something like this can help with - as long as the prices actually are low long term.
Ryanair is way past the complete loss of dignity lol. Surprisingly they are incredibly accommodating for if you have babies, more so than some premium airlines. Probably because it allows you to irritate the rest of the passengers even more.
Did you set him straight???
Jailer of Hope
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I don't believe their basic economy restricts overhead luggage.
shira
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NeOak
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More like $79-$130.
Thanks for the laugh, man.
milanbaros
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Then explain why taking away 'free' benefits from flying in Europe has made in ridiculously cheap compared to 20 years ago?
That looks like a great way for some unwanted eye contact.
ThreePiMatt
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Its the walk of shame where everyone is sitting down and the cheapskates are being paraded through the isle last so that everyone can look down upon them.
In reality, boarding early does give you the slight benefit of securing an overhead bin, but obviously that's not an option for this pricing tier so its kind of irrelevant.
My main question is are these actually lower fares? Or is this a hidden price increase on the "choose your seat and bring carry on luggage" seats?
My friend paid $250 for a flight a few weeks ago ultra low fare on Delta, and I paid the same price for a regular ticket on American to go to the same place.
So is my regular ticket gonna cost more now? Feels like a hidden price increase.
My friend paid $250 for a flight a few weeks ago ultra low fare on Delta, and I paid the same price for a regular ticket on American to go to the same place.
So is my regular ticket gonna cost more now? Feels like a hidden price increase.
SketchTheArtist
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I've flown once with American Airlines. Never again. Worst Customer service.
shira
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The reasoning/term is "stay competitive" which is an elegant way of saying maybe.
Well, for one, the overhead bins fill up faster than the seats below it.
I fully anticipate people stuffing the space full of crap and putting their legs in the spaces under neighbors' seats.
And I would be OK with this approach if the airline would hang coats for people. Often that's the only thing I put up in the overhead.
I know Spirit and other "ultra-low" fare airlines get shit on regularly, but I've got a flight coming up in a few days with them. I've never flown with them before, but I just couldn't pass up the savings.
Flying Spirit from Dallas direct to Orlando, with two checked bags and assigned seats was less than $700 (for four people). AA, Delta, etc was going to be $1500-2000 (with layovers on most flights). Even counting a hotel stay (our outgoing flight leaves pretty early), Spirit saved a lot of money. It's a 2.5 hour flight. I don't need wifi or outlets in the seats. I can bring my own bottle of water.
That being said, my opinion may change after flying with them.
Flying Spirit from Dallas direct to Orlando, with two checked bags and assigned seats was less than $700 (for four people). AA, Delta, etc was going to be $1500-2000 (with layovers on most flights). Even counting a hotel stay (our outgoing flight leaves pretty early), Spirit saved a lot of money. It's a 2.5 hour flight. I don't need wifi or outlets in the seats. I can bring my own bottle of water.
That being said, my opinion may change after flying with them.
Gouty
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Brilliant idea. Lets reserve air travel to only the wealthy.
Everyone talking about a stealth price hike is correct and that sucks. But Id pay extra for flights that dont allow carry on baggage. Can't stand buying a ticket late and winding up at the back of the plane. After the landing you're stuck back there for an eternity while you watch people struggle with their every Earthly possession crammed into the overheads.
Doesn't Delta allow carry-on luggage though?
I said "put my bag back right now and don't say or do anything else."
Alaska is great, but man they have some old jets that need to be updated ASAP.
I flew the Disneyland plane SEA-ANC, no in seat power, minimal amount of leg room compared to all their other jets, and the air crew seemed pissed off for some reason. Wasn't a great flight
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You were unlucky. There are literally on three or four that haven't been upgraded yet. I seemed to always end up on the SINGLE one with no wifi tho.
I had a similar experience to this while coming back on the one (and hopefully only) Spirit Airlines round trip I've taken. Between that and someone getting thrown off the plane on the way out because of carry-on baggage rules, I'm done with them.
I don't ask for much on an airplane, but I at least want to be confident that the airline will get me where I want to go. Spirit is below that bar. Not worth the stress.
Not even long game, this is going to happen really fast and everyone knows it.
Well, as you said, ideal for very short business trips.
I know it is about making sure the first people have the most overhead space, but it is really backwards when you're thinking about speed. If you let the people in the rear first on the plane, they can move straight to the back and put in their luggage there, while you let the people in front of them in. Now the people in the front are standing in the way of people entering.
If I'm sitting in the back and you let me on first, I'm putting my luggage in the overhead at the front. That way, there's more space for the people in the back.
And that is why we are stuck with those waiting times.
Megalosaro
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I can't really vouch for passanger conditions, but in terms working in logistics and transporting cargo...
Alaska > Southwest > Delta > >>>>>>> American > > United.
Alaska > Southwest > Delta > >>>>>>> American > > United.
Septimus Prime
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If you fly business class, they start serving you as soon as you board. So while everyone else is queuing up to push each other over for the overhead compartments, you're already sitting in a comfy seat and enjoying a nice champagne.
perfectchaos007
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If Greyhound owned an airliner you would be sitting in between fresh released prisoners lol.
I wonder how Mandrake Air will respond to this race to the bottom.
I've never understood this either. When the plane starts boarding I stay seated until the line is very short. The flight attendants always find some overhead space somewhere, and everything I'll want is in my personal bag that stays with me.
I assume it's just a psychological thing that first people are more important and they're moving onto the next thing sooner which feels good.
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