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xbhaskarx

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It was nixed once we saw that it was a Red Bull badge with a different name.

That could maybe still have been changed down the line. Now they have the Red Bull badge and same name with a "II".
Pretty much the definition of the perfect being the enemy of the good...
 

xbhaskarx

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Bill Edwards buys garage, restaurant to please Rowdies fans

Tampa Bay Rowdies soccer fans will have a new place to park this spring and a new sports bar to meet before and after the games.

Team owner Bill Edwards said Monday he has purchased the McNulty Station parking garage and the former Midtown Sundries restaurant, which closed in November after 16 years. They are in the First Avenue and Second Street South block.

The five-floor garage gives soccer fans 500-plus badly needed parking spaces a block away from Al Lang Stadium, where the Rowdies play their home games, Edwards said. Meanwhile, he said he plans to reopen the 300-seat Midtown restaurant as a Rowdies-themed sports bar for soccer fans.

Edwards said he bought the properties on Friday in response to complaints by fans and season ticket holders about the lack of parking near Al Lang. He declined to disclose the purchase price.

“I bought some additional parking for season ticket holders and special guests,” Edwards said. “Last year several people said, “Gee, our biggest problem is finding a parking spot.”

The parking will be reserved for the team on Saturday game nights, but open to the public the rest of the week. The Rowdies play 15 regular season games at Al Lang, which seats 7,600 people for soccer. They open their 2015 North American Soccer League season with a home game April 11.

The additions come as Edwards is in the final stages of renovating the long-time baseball stadium, including infrastructure improvements, upgrading the playing surface, and adding new player lockers and stadium seats in the team’s green and yellow colors.
 

Osorio

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That could maybe still have been changed down the line. Now they have the Red Bull badge and same name with a "II".
Pretty much the definition of the perfect being the enemy of the good...

Why bother when there's a movement within the group to get Red Bull to sell?
 

Meier

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Why bother when there's a movement within the group to get Red Bull to sell?

There has been a movement for years to get the Glazers to sell United. The owners will sell when they want to sell and efforts by a small subset of fans will have no effect on it. I don't see any reason for a different name for the B teams personally, but if people wanted their B team to have a separate name and tanked it then they can't see the forest through the trees.

U20s are in Group A with New Zealand, Myanmar, and Ukraine

So in what embarassing fashion do they screw this up?

I'd imagine Ukraine has a pretty decent U-20 team but surely the other two must be complete and utter pushovers. Seems unfathomable that the US wouldn't go through.
 

xbhaskarx

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USL unveils new name and logo

They're doing the different colors for each team thing just like MLS

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It also looks like Rochester has a new logo, Orange County Blues made some slight changes to not be as terrible, and Charlotte's has been leaked:
The big news:
All aspects of our league have been elevated, both on and off the field, to the extent that the time is right for USL to re-establish its Division 2 status. This year the League will apply for USSF Division 2 sanctioning to accurately reflect the quality of our league, our ownership groups, our stadiums and our fans.
And:
USL @USL
Our partnership with @YouTube continues to grow, and in 2015 all games will be streamed LIVE, FREE, and IN HD. #USLrising
 

Esch

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All aspects of our league have been elevated, both on and off the field, to the extent that the time is right for USL to re-establish its Division 2 status. This year the League will apply for USSF Division 2 sanctioning to accurately reflect the quality of our league, our ownership groups, our stadiums and our fans.

Big things happening
 

xbhaskarx

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lol

SoccerSerber: "The Panamanian league is about to start so not all of our players were in top shape." - coach Hernan Dario Gomez #USAvPAN

Matt Ellenberger ‏@bergerrunner
nice to know he and klinsmann are reading from the same book of excuses #notmatchfit

Doug McIntyreVerified ‏@DougMacESPN
Some fans with a message for Jurgen Klinsmann:"JK OUT" banner behind one of the goals. #USAvPAN #usmnt

Doug McIntyreVerified ‏@DougMacESPN
Guy w/JK OUT banner. MT @SalchiPapa: idea was to create dialogue and put pressure on Klinsmann since he feels that doesn’t exist in U.S.
 

CoolOff

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My Swedish club recently signed Heath Pearce on a 5 month contract, and there's talk of negotiations with Beckerman.

USA! USA! USA!
 

xbhaskarx

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For Klinsmann's USMNT, balancing Mia San Mia, ambition no simple task

Two weeks ago, Klinsmann took his team to Chile, where a La Roja squad featuring just two 2014 World Cup players overcame a deficit and pressured and passed the U.S. into submission. The 3-2 defeat in Rancagua was the Americans’ third straight. It lifted the U.S. winless streak to five and, more importantly, extended the period since Klinsmann’s team had played a complete, 90-minute game to around eight months.

When he took the job, the German legend said, “I think America always likes to decide on its own what is next. This guides maybe towards a more proactive style of play where you would like to impose a little bit the game on your opponent instead of sitting back and waiting for what your opponent is doing and react to it.”

In three-and-half years, which included a World Cup where it was outplayed in three of four matches, out-possessed by an average of 56.5 percent to 43.5 percent and outshot by a whopping 94-44, the U.S. rarely has imposed its game on a non-CONCACAF opponent. Good results against good teams have come here and there. There were the friendly wins in Genoa and Mexico City and the group stage defeat of Ghana in Natal. But those victories were the result of resolute effort, cohesive defending and opportunism – the things the U.S. always has done pretty well. There was little sign of an emerging, more "proactive" style.

And it’s the most popular sport in each of the eight countries that has won a World Cup. What Klinsmann hopes to build here requires a culture, infrastructure and collective desire that simply couldn't be fashioned in the quarter century that’s elapsed since the Americans qualified for Italia ’90. The youth environment remains too forgiving. The market is still so segmented. There are too many sports and too many options for both the prospective player and the fan. It's not possible now to create the single-mindedness Klinsmann is seeking.

His predecessor, Bob Bradley, coached the match in front of him. He designed a game plan to beat Spain that day in Bloemfontein and with a keen understanding of their strengths and weaknesses, his players executed. When Bradley’s team was able to play with a bit more dynamism and flourish, it did so knowing it had a solid base and structure to fall back on. It had an identity.

Klinsmann’s teams do not because he’s trying to accomplish so much more than to win the game that day. He’s trying to spark a cultural shift that’s going to take a lot longer to occur than the four years he has left on the bench.

It’s a generational, economic and demographic evolution that started in the 1970s and has slowly but surely carried the U.S. this far. And there’s still a ways to go.

Perhaps Klinsmann will facilitate the process by blazing the proper trail. But for now, the U.S. national team is what it is – a competitive, hard-working, reasonably talented collection of players from a place where soccer is far from the most popular sport. It’s one of only eight to advance to the round of 16 in three of the past four World Cups. But since the tournament expanded to 32 teams in 1998, the eventual champion has won an average of six games during the competition. The U.S. has won six World Cup matches combined over the past 80 years.

Klinsmann can change only so much. In his role as technical director, there is progress to be made. He's already influenced some changes at the developmental level, adding additional resources for youth coaches and increasing the number of junior national teams. And soccer’s organic growth will continue. But with the senior side, it’s probably time to be a bit more pragmatic. Sometimes, a comfort zone is good. Tactics that play to a team’s strengths are more likely to be successful. Athletes have a better chance on the day if they’re confident and in command. They can't change where they were born or how they learned the game. They are who they are.
 

Osorio

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There has been a movement for years to get the Glazers to sell United. The owners will sell when they want to sell and efforts by a small subset of fans will have no effect on it. I don't see any reason for a different name for the B teams personally, but if people wanted their B team to have a separate name and tanked it then they can't see the forest through the trees.

I think there's a slight difference between fans wanting an owner to sell because they are unsatisfied with the owner's performance and fans wanting an owner to sell because of the club's identity.
 

Meier

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I think there's a slight difference between fans wanting an owner to sell because they are unsatisfied with the owner's performance and fans wanting an owner to sell because of the club's identity.

It's all the same end result though and has the same effect -- little to none. Red Bull may sell some day, who knows. It will only be done when they see little to no opportunity for profitability though.
 

Meier

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It looks like Hamburg realized what Pep Guardiola realized last summer. He's not physically or mentally ready for top flight football in the Bundesliga. He'll be playing in the fourth division in Germany for the rest of the year until his loan spell is up in June.

It's probably a bit premature to say that he'll be there for the rest of the year. Moving down to the B team is a fluid thing.
 

Dartastic

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xbhaskarx

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What coach would even want the Aston Villa job right now? Surely no one who has other options.
How much would they pay? If they're not willing to pay for players I doubt they would splurge on a coach.
 

B-Dubs

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What coach would even want the Aston Villa job right now? Surely no one who has other options.
How much would they pay? If they're not willing to pay for players I doubt they would splurge on a coach.

So Mike Petke while he waits for Red Bull to sell so he can come back and help us win our first MLS Cup :(
 

Esch

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The Guardian: FC Dallas shun stars for youth – but will it work?

They call it the FC Dallas Way. In this worldview, talented youth and conservative spending trumps expensive, ill-considered purchases and journeymen on the make. It’s framed as a cultural approach, aiming to revolutionize technique and tactical awareness from the first team to the club’s top-ranked development academy. It now claims a string of superlatives. Among them: an MLS record 13 homegrown players and, last season, the current contingent combined for the most minutes in the league. Careful curation also means the squad is rounded out by foreign talent tending toward younger, cheaper imports from Latin America, and experienced players familiar with MLS who marry with the club culture. “We are looking for the right mix,” muses Fernando Clavijo, FC Dallas’ technical director.
 

Osorio

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Highly unlikely rumor that we're after Cristian Ledesma from Nazio

Don't see the need for him, it comes from MLSTransfers, but it's still a rumor.
 
Here's Richard Deitsch's article

Noteworthy:

Tweeted ESPN’s Bob Ley, one of the signature anchors of ESPN’s soccer coverage: “Did FIFA just grant rights to WC2026 without opening it up to bidding? #typicalFIFA"
It appears that way. In 2011 Fox outbid ESPN and NBC for the U.S. English-speaking rights–Sports Business Journal reported the total rights fee to be between $400 million to $500 million–while NBCUniversal’s Telemundo paid $600 million for the U.S. Spanish TV rights.

Some insiders suggest granting Fox and Telemundo an extra round without opening up the bidding means a move to the winter for the 2022 Qatar World Cup is a done deal. The current North American rights holders would be hurt by that move given the loaded winter sports calendar would hurt viewership. FIFA extending Fox and Telemundo's rights–and not opening it up to other bidders–could be seen as a make-good for the shift in the Qatar tournament.

ffs
 

Askani

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I wonder how many clubs are going to try and boycott the world cup with a winter move.

It'll be our best World Cup finish after everyone else boycotts. The World Cup where we had high hopes, but end up taking second place out of eight teams when we lose a nail biter to Papua New Guinea in stoppage time.
 
At this point isnt it easier for everyone to pull out of Fifa and establish IFA (international football association) with a "Global Cup" during the summer 2022?
 
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