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American Soccer |OT| Life, liberty and the pursuit of the beautiful game
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Brohenheim
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Possibly the worst game they've played all season but 3 points is 3 points
It's a super, super top heavy team. Both expansion teams are really wilting in the final 15-20 mins this season.
Man, the double weeks were AWFUL for me in fantasy.. Villa plays 45 mins, Jason Hernandez did the same. Aristeguieta scored no goals and Eric Ayuk Mbu only played 1 game. Ugh.
Same. I am already so far back. This week was disappointing.
We were shit. Unbelievably shit. Amazing we escaped with three points. I don't know what's going on. I have some ideas, but I'll save them for when I haven't been drinking.
jamesinclair
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Interesting article:
4 Games, 4 Days: This Is The State Of NYC Professional Soccer
It was a rare quirk in the MLS and NASL schedules: four NYC-area home games in four consecutive days. It was the perfect opportunity for a look at the situation of all three area teams, as well as an excuse for stunt journalism. Our lone soccer nut Dan Dickinson suffered through all four games; here are his thoughts.
http://gothamist.com/2015/04/20/4_games_4_days_a_look_at_the_state.php
4 Games, 4 Days: This Is The State Of NYC Professional Soccer
It was a rare quirk in the MLS and NASL schedules: four NYC-area home games in four consecutive days. It was the perfect opportunity for a look at the situation of all three area teams, as well as an excuse for stunt journalism. Our lone soccer nut Dan Dickinson suffered through all four games; here are his thoughts.
http://gothamist.com/2015/04/20/4_games_4_days_a_look_at_the_state.php
I have no idea how Miazga isn't in there. He absolutely dominated everything against SJ.
platypotamus
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Maybe he's under 21 and it's the Budweiser team of the week
That'll do it. I remember reading that's why Morris didn't get it for the Mexico game.
Chicago has been off for nearly 20 days now. Sean Johnson is back in training. Maloney and Accam have had the opportunity to put time in after having missed preseason.
No more excuses if we cannot perform well against NYCFC @ home.
No more excuses if we cannot perform well against NYCFC @ home.
ActStriker
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I kinda forgot that the Fire existed, except for Harry Shipp being on my fantasy team not playing games.
I am a Chicago sports supporter. It's in my DNA to be either foolishly optimistic or extremely pessimistic.
ActStriker
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I want to say I was taking those shots blind.
also, well done Columbus fans
I think this was for some banner contest
also, well done Columbus fans
I think this was for some banner contest
jamesinclair
Banned
Why not?
Thanks for the link.
The Cosmos should be set up with their own field on the Coliseum's land. That or give'em a place in Queens. The Cosmos need to make their play for the MLS while they have the money and the interest. I know that it's going to be difficult for them considering how many bridges they burned in 2013, but management can make a pretty convincing argument for a third NY team.
On the other hand, NYCFC should have waited one more year to shore up their roster and location. They could have gotten a soccer specific location, or at least a temporary location better than Yankee Stadium. I'd rather go to RFK to watch a game. Columbia comes to mind as a great temporary location. Talent wise, they have a pretty great 11, but they're severely lacking beyond their starters.
Finally we have the New York Energy Sodas. They've pissed their fans off one too many times. They have a great venue far away from NYC. They have a talented team with a fantastic midfield, but little fanfare for such a great team the last few years.
The problems that each team share are scarily similar: a major disconnect between fans and upper management, and accessibility. No team wants to make it easy for fans to come to their games or enjoy the game while they're inside each teams' stands. It's frustrating that RBNY, the Cosmos, and NYCFC can't understand their fans and a simple formula: Have an accessible location, a decent team, and a real foothold in the community.
Yankee Stadium is pretty damn accessible. I went to see Man City play Liverpool there last summer and it was insanely convenient. The stadium was great and my seats were perfect. It's not an ideal solution long term due to the season overlap but the venue itself is not bad at all for soccer.
They definitely need some help though as far as their roster is concerned. Think they should have taken another City youth player on loan -- if they could get Iheanacho that would be ideal.
They definitely need some help though as far as their roster is concerned. Think they should have taken another City youth player on loan -- if they could get Iheanacho that would be ideal.
It's actually pretty easy to get to RB Arena once you're in Manhattan, just hop on the PATH and you're there. The problem is Red Bull itself, no one wants to support a team named for an energy drink. Red Bull just needs to rename the team, go back to the Metrostars, and stop fucking over the fans year in and year out.
jamesinclair
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I've never met a single person in real life who has any issue with the red bull part of the name. Most people think metrostars was idiotic.
But you know what they DO hate? The New York part.
I want to say I was taking those shots blind.
also, well done Columbus fans
I think this was for some banner contest
So cute seeing Crew fans thinking we still care about them
They're right.
All I hear is the opposite, do you live in Jersey?
Tony Taylor ruptured his ACL and damaged his LCL in that Portland game -- done for the season (http://www.nycfc.com/post/2015/04/21/tony-taylor-suffers-season-ending-injury). New York's forward ranks are already pretty thin (realistically this guy isn't good enough but he was added depth) so this is a decent-sized blow.
They need to integrate Kwadwo Poku more as he seems to be a real difference maker when on the pitch.
They need to integrate Kwadwo Poku more as he seems to be a real difference maker when on the pitch.
jamesinclair
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Yes. They don't like a team in NJ pretending to be from NY.
"But the NFL does it!'
Yeah but the NFL could brand the teams as the "fuck your mom giants" and every game would still sell out.
Obviously the front office has the numbers of where the season ticket holders come from, but from my casual observation, I think a large amount of attendees are suburban new jersey families, not new yorkers.
Theres a lot of pride in the New Jersey Devils and there used to be a lot of pride in the New Jersey Nets.
The red bulls dont have the history where they can pretend theyre from another state.
Thats a lot of crying Canadians
I dunno who you're meeting but nobody I know loves being "the Red Bulls"
Some people put up with it, but nobody loves it and nobody would cry if it was changed tomorrow. And if I did meet somebody who loved being a Red Bull I'd wonder wtf is wrong with them. Who likes being an ad? At least NYCFC fans can pretend they're not a farm team. Their club is actually about being in the city, and their logo doesn't remind you of a can of medicine drink when you go to your local Exxon.
Metrostars isn't great but nothing is worse than Red Bull.
I'd rather be the NJ Toll Trolls than be RBNY
Some people put up with it, but nobody loves it and nobody would cry if it was changed tomorrow. And if I did meet somebody who loved being a Red Bull I'd wonder wtf is wrong with them. Who likes being an ad? At least NYCFC fans can pretend they're not a farm team. Their club is actually about being in the city, and their logo doesn't remind you of a can of medicine drink when you go to your local Exxon.
Metrostars isn't great but nothing is worse than Red Bull.
I'd rather be the NJ Toll Trolls than be RBNY
jamesinclair
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It sounds like youre talking to people in the stadium. People who have been a fan for a decade. They dont like the name? Thats all very well, but it quite frankly doesnt matter.
Im talking to people who go occasionally. People at the sports bar. People going to the devils games.
People who COULD go to more games, but dont really see the reason to, because its a New York team.
From the front office perspective, who should you do more for? The people who will bitch and moan and complain....but still come to every game and buy all your scarves regardless of what you do.... or the people who arent filling the empty seats?
You cant sell a season ticket to someone who already bought one. But you can sell 4 season tickets to the die hard NEW JERSEY devils fan who wants to watch sports in July.
That is, as long as you offer them a NEW JERSEY team.
So your solution is to change it to NJRB? Red Bull will never do that. So don't we all agree that the best solution is for Red Bull to sell?
Metro would sell more tickets than RBNY, NJ Whatevers would sell more seats than RBNY
RB is the problem.
jamesinclair
Banned
No, RB is not the problem.
They built the best stadium in the league.
They payed for some fantastic players.
And yes, NJRB would sell more tickets than NYRB. A lot more.
My only problem with RB? The red bull beverage sold in the stadium should cost $1.
But sure, if you want to pretend that this was better...
jamesinclair
Banned
Yankee stadium at least has subway access. It is also shiny and new. Games arent anywhere close to selling out though, and I guarantee we'll be seeing $7 tickets and <15,000 real world (not the reported) attendance before the season ends.
Giant stadium is in the middle of nowehere, had football lines in half the games, and sucked.
And yes, it was raining in that picture, but don't pretend scenes like that weren't common. Hell, you can still see it every October in New England!
Did the Metrostars have real plans for a real stadium? Of course not.
Without red bull, MLS in the NYC region would be taken as seriously as it is in Boston.
You really don't live in the real world.
jamesinclair
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Tell me, whats your experience with MLS in Mass?
Because I lived there for 5 years. The revs got (and continue to get) about as much attention as the Cannons. The ownership is garbage. The stadium is garbage. The fan base is garbage. The Gold Cup was how theyd pump up attention, with a freaking triple header.
And in years without the Gold Cup? A Brazil friendly double header.
A whole lot like the Metrostars.
You should join the real world and realize that people hating on the red bull company is an extremely limited echo chamber.
To the average person, corporate ownership of the red bulls is as relevant as it is to the NFL. Youll note that in the early years, most teams were owned by a major corporation, such as the Staley Starch Company (Chicago) or the Frontier Oil company (Buffalo). Or still relevant, the Indian Packing Company (Packers)
Chicago FC put together a highlight reel for Cuauhtemoc Blanco.
His last professional game was tonight in the Copa MX final. Puebla won it 4 - 2 over Chivas.
He has played for 23 years and played his last game at 42 years of age.
Cubo got Chivas into the final with 2 goals in a 2 - 1 semi-final win.
Cubo did not play at all in the final according to the box scores.
His last professional game was tonight in the Copa MX final. Puebla won it 4 - 2 over Chivas.
He has played for 23 years and played his last game at 42 years of age.
Cubo got Chivas into the final with 2 goals in a 2 - 1 semi-final win.
Cubo did not play at all in the final according to the box scores.
The Culture Vulture
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Anyways.....Red Bull
aside, how bad do you think the damage will be for the Impact in the CCL tomorrow night? I'll be watching on Fox Sports 2 but am expecting a horror show.
shit
jamesinclair
Banned
Whats the betting line?
I mean, Id like to say that America will win 5-1, but quite frankly the way things have been going, Montreal might win 2-1.
Its the biggest toss up in CONCACAF history.
jamesinclair
Banned
His reason for retirement is....special
Blanco announced on Feb. 11 that he would retire in order to run for mayor of the city of Cuernavaca for Mexico's Social Democrat Party (PSD).
Dude is a legend
I'll probably wind up watching it in a bar in Manhattan due to my hours today, but I think Montreal might be able to surprise us. I'm going with a 1-1 tie, if they can do that on the road then they've got a real shot at it.
smokeandmirrors
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3-1 America with Montreal's goal in the 89th minute.
The Culture Vulture
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I would take that result in a heartbeat. You guys who are predicting better than that I love your optimism but y'all crazy.
Shit dude, Montreal is made of fucking miracles for making it this far. No reason to think they've run out yet.
smokeandmirrors
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I figure my expectations are that they are outplayed for a majority of the game and sneak a goal in last minute. Anything more than that is great.
I really hope they can continue. Hopefully them purposely ignoring mls has allowed them time to continue to pray to saint garber to help continue this run.
Cornballer
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I wonder if Geoff Cameron has any role going forward. He's not getting called up or mentioned in any of the Gold Cup speculative posts, but he still seems like someone useful to have around for a number of different positions.
I wonder if Geoff Cameron has any role going forward. He's not getting called up or mentioned in any of the Gold Cup speculative posts, but he still seems like someone useful to have around for a number of different positions.
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