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Sorry, man, I meant talking about policy, which is what I assume you meant too.
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Amid Russia concerns, Comey's closed-door Hill visit results in uncanny silence
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Escape Goat
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She sounds nuts.
BlastProcessing
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Also it's been reported that Flynn made the call while in the Dominican Republic. No legal issues tapping a call from outside the US.
RustyNails
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If so, won't he have to relay that to congressional committees and meetings with them? I doubt Comey could run that big operation that's off books.
Bam Bam Baklava
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I believe that she is.
poppedcollar69
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Maybe he needed to make Trump think he wasn't on the case, and then after they bust him they'll reveal that the whole election was just a huge sting operation
Rentahamster
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Twist: There was silence because it's a big nothingburger.
Ayyyyyy
Ayyyyyy
BlastProcessing
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If it was a nothingburger, the GOP would be shouting that fact from the rooftops. That's the standard way that dead end investigations are put to bed.
Instead we get silence, not even backchannel leaks.
Rentahamster
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They already aren't?
BlastProcessing
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The people who were in the meeting with Comey haven't said anything. If the information in that briefing helped Trump, they would leak the nature of the meeting and try to put the whole thing to bed.
BoboBrazil
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Kind of suspect this meeting took place at the end of a Friday before the Senate goes on vacation for a week.
What makes it suspect?
BoboBrazil
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Just odd timing. What made them do this late on a Friday? Why not hold this meeting after they come back from vacation? Obviously there is no smoking gun yet or we would have heard about it.
Imperfected
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The problem with the "Comey playing the long-con theory" is that even if it's true, he's going to have left us with a smoldering ruin of a country in the aftermath, so it's barely any better than being a willful stooge for Trump.
Oh I see.
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I don't think the theory makes sense unless he like most people believed that Clinton would win handily regardless.
Can someone come up with a better theory as to why Comey might be playing ball now? My personal suggestion is that someone leaked something damning, to the NYT or whatever, and someone high up said it was crazy enough to seek legal assistance, and they were directed to try and use one of their contacts to reach Comey for comment, and Comey, realising what the implications of it all were, decided to change course and reveal what he knows to the SIC.
A Serious Man
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It's entirely possible that Comey strongly believed Trump would lose and that there wasn't an urgency or need to leak details of an incomplete investigation into Trump. The NY FBI office being firmly in Trump's camp is all but confirmed, it's not unreasonable to think they forced his hand with the Clinton letter.
I have not been happy with Comey but this chapter isn't over. We'll see if he redeems himself.
I have not been happy with Comey but this chapter isn't over. We'll see if he redeems himself.
Lostconfused
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wow there is a lot of ego in that blog post.
Pretty much what I'm thinking. Maybe some worst stuff.
I want the Pierce Brosnan Christopher Steele movie
mehrmantrout
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Mensch comes across as unhinged but, thats because once she gets her teeth into something it becomes all consuming (see her crusade to vindicate Sir Tim Hunt). I've been following her for ages and she's more or less consistently been right and ahead of the curve on Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/17/louise-mensch-trump-russia-ties-media-scoop
She was one of the first to pick up the link between Rybolvlev and his plane movements as well
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/17/louise-mensch-trump-russia-ties-media-scoop
She was one of the first to pick up the link between Rybolvlev and his plane movements as well
I mean, I know the Comey theory is really giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I don't see why these connections she's making would be so ludicrous, there's obviously a lot of strange stuff happening behind the scenes... probably money related. https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur
She runs a clickbait version of Breitbart-style news, hates "SJWs", and champions Milo.
Taken from just 1 page of her site.
SuperEpicMan
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So we should just dismiss all of the good investigative work she has done.
UberTag
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Please tell me this isn't the first time this specific Mensch blog has been posted here because holy hell is it a compelling read.
Yet apparently they normally talk a lot.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Exactly, just like the military the IC swear to defend the United States from all threats, foreign and domestic. The White House being under Russian control is a threat.
This is absolutely insane and a fantastic read. If it's even 30% true as a thesis (obviously most of the specifics are proven or real) then it's bonkers.
What's her record like? Not familiar with her except tangentially.
ugaboga232
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Politically shes pretty conservative though nevertrump, she did break the FISA warrant first and russian plane following trump around story first.
Lightning_Roller
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Sometimes silence speaks more than a few words do. Which means this isn't good.
Hmm so Nikulin may have something to do with all this.
I truly hope that Comey is not compromised as well.
Some of Louise's explanations for Comeys actions do make sense.
Pence does actively seem to be playing the role of President, and is actually saying things that go against what has previously been the Trump Bannon platform.
I do think we will see Pence as president before the end of this year.
I truly hope that Comey is not compromised as well.
Some of Louise's explanations for Comeys actions do make sense.
Pence does actively seem to be playing the role of President, and is actually saying things that go against what has previously been the Trump Bannon platform.
I do think we will see Pence as president before the end of this year.
Yeah, is it just me or does Pence constantly have a hint of shame on his face these days? Then again, if this is all Russia, it wouldn't make sense that they would choose a VP that wasn't in on it as well. It could be possible that they just felt they strongly needed a person that was already apart of the establishment, but even then, I don't think it would've been hard for them to find someone that would work with them knowingly. Although, Pence and Trump do seem to have a large disconnect as shown in the VP debate.
Open and listen fully: https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/833328130714644480
Includes for e.g. that Priebus says they determined Flynn did discuss sanctions with Kislyak. Flynn was not being honest. Says Pence was aware FBI interviewed Flynn.
Includes for e.g. that Priebus says they determined Flynn did discuss sanctions with Kislyak. Flynn was not being honest. Says Pence was aware FBI interviewed Flynn.
Funkyhamster
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My money is on this. I'm pulling for a (Harry Potter spoilers)
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DerangedHermit
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Rupert's wife hates Trump, at least publicaly. And with this, not only he makes nice for her but has the opportunity to fish some former Busters that want to part ways from the Left.
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Trump wanted Flynn as VP originally. But Flynn is a Democrat, and Trump's family and advisers basically said they should get someone to bridge the gap with the GOP, so that quickly fell through. But Trump wanted Flynn as VP early on before any other candidate.
The reason the lie to Pence was a big deal with the GOP is because Flynn almost took down Pence's future potential as POTUS if shit goes down. If they ever impeach Trump they want to be able to have Pence as VP, not have him impeached as well.
His ex is actually a close friend of Ivanka and rumored to be Putin's mistress.
Here's a maybe-not-so-crazy theory about Comey: he genuinely believed, based on the evidence of Hillary's private email server and the lax security practices around it, that she presented a danger to information security at the State Department and, potentially, the White House. Whereas with Trump, the more damning stuff connecting his campaign to Russia did not emerge until after the election. In which case, yes, Comey did violate the Hatch Act to act against one presidential nominee and allow an actually dangerous one into the White House, but did so because, at the time, the more conclusive evidence was around Clinton and not Trump. I don't think that makes him an agent of Trump or even necessarily an anti-Clinton partisan, just incredibly short-sighted.
I'm not sure why you keep repeating this, this isn't true. Flynn was on the list of potential running mates, but it was never a case of Trump wanting Flynn as his original pick for VP; that's like saying Hillary's original choice for VP was Tim Cook.
Trump's choice for VP was Christie. Kushner, et al. convinced him to go with Pence instead. Flynn was never going to survive the vetting and public politicking that goes with being a running mate anyway. He couldn't even survive a month in a behind-the-scenes role like NatSec Advisor.
I'm not sure why you keep repeating this, this isn't true. Flynn was on the list of potential running mates, but it was never a case of Trump wanting Flynn as his original pick for VP; that's like saying Hillary's original choice for VP was Tim Cook.
Trump's choice for VP was Christie. Kushner, et al. convinced him to go with Pence instead. Flynn was never going to survive the vetting and public politicking that goes with being a running mate anyway. He couldn't even survive a month in a behind-the-scenes role like NatSec Advisor.
You think she was going to continue to have that private email server as President?
Senators want materials saved for Russia probe
The committee chairman, Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., and its vice chairman, Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., sent letters out on Friday the same day committee members received a classified briefing from FBI Director James Comey. Committee members declined to comment on what was discussed after the more than hourlong briefing.
The aide was not authorized to discuss the issue and spoke only on condition of anonymity
On Thursday, Senate Democrats wrote the White House and law enforcement agencies seeking assurances that they were preserving all materials related to contacts individuals associated with President Donald Trump had with Russians.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/54bb...ce-senators-want-materials-saved-russia-probe
The committee chairman, Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., and its vice chairman, Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., sent letters out on Friday the same day committee members received a classified briefing from FBI Director James Comey. Committee members declined to comment on what was discussed after the more than hourlong briefing.
The aide was not authorized to discuss the issue and spoke only on condition of anonymity
On Thursday, Senate Democrats wrote the White House and law enforcement agencies seeking assurances that they were preserving all materials related to contacts individuals associated with President Donald Trump had with Russians.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/54bb...ce-senators-want-materials-saved-russia-probe
No, but the point would be precedent.
Hmm I wonder if a big worry is that the WH is deleting/destroying evidence
BoboBrazil
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It's the Trump white house so of course they are deleting shit. Do you think they have any morals?
ugaboga232
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That's what they probably want, to catch them deleting evidence which they probably have. You don't announce things like this until you are already pretty sure and have some evidence.
It's going to be really funny watching the Republicans pretend that this is all fine, if it comes out, and then 40 years from now, when the monarchy has been overthrown by a revolution and the democracy has been restored, claim that the democrats trying the same thing is both immoral and illegal and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
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