Amiibo Discussion Thread 2: I Got 99 Pre-orders But A Rosalina Ain't One

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Eh, I caved for more...

It's been two weeks since I had this EBgames gift card my mother gave me for Christmas. I've been to some stores during all my holiday vacations and bought jack with it, except a Peach amiibo, heh.

Now I pre-ordered Sheik, Bowser and Toon Link and I'm done with it. As if I was in some hurry to spend it. :lol

I have a problem.

naw, not really

I have MM, Ike and DeDeDe all preordered on Amazon...
Plus Shulk, Toon Link, Bowser and Sonic all preordered on EB...............
After that, just need the other exclusives, and wait for Pit/Falcon from Kijiji and WFT/Villager from my bro in Japan

GOTTA CATCH'EM ALL
 
naw, not really

I have MM, Ike and DeDeDe all preordered on Amazon...
Plus Shulk, Toon Link, Bowser and Sonic all preordered on EB...............
After that, just need the other exclusives, and wait for Pit/Falcon from Kijiji and WFT/Villager from my bro in Japan

GOTTA CATCH'EM ALL


You mean you want the others.
 
Yeah but he wasn't your top favorite that is your loss and not Nintendo's fault at the slightest.

...I pre-ordered no amiibo whatsoever because I don't have a steady income, and was already out $60 that day for the game. Same reason I didn't pre-order a Gamecube Adapter. Also, who even said that Villager isn't a top favorite of mine?

I get that Nintendo can't put out enough stock for everyone interested, and for obvious reasons. There are a lot of characters to make. But I still feel they could have done better with their communication. Also throw me in with the "highly confused that one of their biggest recent IPs was short-printed" crowd with Villager. Marth also makes little sense with Awakening being such a success last year paired with his popularity in Smash.

On a different note, I was actually expecting Wii Fit Trainer to be the ultra-rare back when these were first announced.
 
I doubt you will be done.

I'm done in a way that I have ALL the coming ones available online pre-ordered already, including all the retailer exclusives, except Shulk...

Which reminds me...anyone have an extra Shulk to sell? I'd take it. :)

Don't take my word for it, because I still have a pending order that may or may not be cancelled, but I may have a Marth to trade for it. Worst case scenario I'll give money.
 
I'd love to just forget about Amiibos for a while, but I know that as soon as I stop looking at this thread, there will be a restock of Marth and Villager somewhere, wave 3 will be announced and sell out on all retailer sites and Rosalina will be up for preorder for a full day on Target.com.

All on the day I stop following this thread.

So stop following it and hook the rest of the thread up! Take one for the team! haha
 
...I pre-ordered no amiibo whatsoever because I don't have a steady income, and was already out $60 that day for the game. Same reason I didn't pre-order a Gamecube Adapter. Also, who even said that Villager isn't a top favorite of mine?

I get that Nintendo can't put out enough stock for everyone interested, and for obvious reasons. There are a lot of characters to make. But I still feel they could have done better with their communication. Also throw me in with the "highly confused that one of their biggest recent IPs was short-printed" crowd with Villager. Marth also makes little sense with Awakening being such a success last year paired with his popularity in Smash.

On a different note, I was actually expecting Wii Fit Trainer to be the ultra-rare back when these were first announced.
If it was your choice to choose another character over him then he wasn't your number one pick and yet you blame Nintendo for it when you had the chance to grab him.
 
I sincerely hope that this next incoming Wave 3 isn't a release date clusterfuck like the previous. Just set dates in ADVANCE if the wave is gonna be split up and STICK TO IT, for crying out flayven.
 
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If you search GameStop's website for the Little Mac amiibo, you won't find a listing. While this is the case for GameStop, we're not sure if other retailers are in the same situatoin.
http://geekparty.com/gamestop-says-little-mac-amiibo-discontinued-no-longer-receiving-stock/
 
I just preordered the rest of Wave 3...lol.

I previously had Ike and DDD on Amazon.ca.

Now I got the rest preordered at EB:
Megaman x 2 (might repaint one)
Sonic
Bowser
Sheik x 2 (one for friend)
Toon Link

Hopefully I can get a spare Ike or DDD (I want a sealed Ike because I probably won't open Marth...and DDD is one of my favs)
 
Toon Link, Bowser, and Sheik finally became unavailable for pre-order from amazon today. Looks like they're afraid of running out. Those 3 should be the commons of the 7 non-exclusive Wave 3s though. (Ike, Dedede, Mega Man and Sonic stopped amazon pre-orders several weeks ago).

I have all but Toon Link pre-ordered. I'm sure he'll be readily available in stores, but I also wouldn't be upset if I missed out. Every one else I pre-ordered just for safety.
 
Exactly, I don't like buying tons of these things at once. I need to space them out between paychecks. Just imagine if Disney Infinity had the same model as amiibo right now. I'd have to buy all 20 figures or whatever it was at launch out of FEAR I'd never find them again?? Yondu is coming out for Disney Infinity this year. He is a pretty unpopular character compared to others. I guarantee I'll still be able to get him months down the road after his release. Heck I can still find Barbosa from the first game, another unpopular character who, by nintendo logic, should have been short shipped.

To be fair, you also have to take into account Nintendo's production capacity and general revenue versus Disney's. Disney is a giant who has had a gargantuan in-house toy division for decades. When it comes to this kind of stuff they're a well-oiled machine with a massive production capacity. Not only that, but if they over-ship some toys here and there, there's really no issue, because they're still pulling in billions annually - they can afford it. Hell, I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Disney's toy divisions made more money annually the Nintendo as a whole.

Nintendo on the other hand hasn't produced toys in-house in decades. This is their first big toy push since before they were even a games company as far as I can tell, and even then amiibos are probably bigger than any of their toy-company-days lines. Their production capacity is likely relatively small, so they have to focus their resources on the guaranteed sellers in the meantime - the Pikachus and the Marios, which means the Wii Fit Trainers get shorted. And of course, any unsold figures are going to sting a little more for Nintendo than they would Disney. As Nintendo starts recovering from their losses over the past few years and start building up their amiibo production lines and product line-up in general these issues will likely start to disappear, but in the meantime it's going to be like this for a while.
 
Toon Link, Bowser, and Sheik finally became unavailable for pre-order from amazon today. Looks like they're afraid of running out. Those 3 should be the commons of the 7 non-exclusive Wave 3s though. (Ike, Dedede, Mega Man and Sonic stopped amazon pre-orders several weeks ago).

I have all but Toon Link pre-ordered. I'm sure he'll be readily available in stores, but I also wouldn't be upset if I missed out. Every one else I pre-ordered just for safety.

Well shit. I have no doubt Bowser will be easy as hell to find, and Toon Link should be at least relatively easy for a good while, but I've always been a bit worried about Sheik, though still hesitant to pull the trigger just yet. She (he? Never know what pronoun to use lol) is a fairly popular character and is from Zelda, so I'd like to think she's safe, but I'm not positive she would be a big seller. Ah well, I guess I'll just have to hope for the best.
 
Exactly, I don't like buying tons of these things at once. I need to space them out between paychecks. Just imagine if Disney Infinity had the same model as amiibo right now. I'd have to buy all 20 figures or whatever it was at launch out of FEAR I'd never find them again?? Yondu is coming out for Disney Infinity this year. He is a pretty unpopular character compared to others. I guarantee I'll still be able to get him months down the road after his release. Heck I can still find Barbosa from the first game, another unpopular character who, by nintendo logic, should have been short shipped.

There taking a page out of activisions book where for the first skylanders they only printed so many of some figures and never did a reprint of said figures so people were forced to pre-order or buy them as soon as they saw them.
 
Just to give an update to all the UK Amiibo Hunters(and probably EU people too) the release dates for the set of Amiibos are very much different than America. We're actually get a Wave 3 and Wave 4.

Details:
Wave 3 are to be released on January 23rd.
Amiibos released are:
Rosalina
Lucario
Ike
Sheik
Bowser
Toon Link

Wave 4 are to be released on February 20th.
Amiibos released are:
Shulk
Metaknight
Megaman
Sonic
King De-de-de

Where are they available?
Everywhere that sells Amiibos.

Can I pre-order?
At the moment GAME and Shopto are taking pre-orders. That being said, I pre-ordered a few from GAME and they've confirmed that Rosalina is already low/out of stock. On launch day she should be OK but a week after that, She'll be in that group of "hard-to-find".
Shopto (for some reason) are not taking pre-orders for Rosalina, Shulk and Lucario. But you can pre-order the rest.
Again, it should be OK for the first week.

My prediction
Wave 3:
Rosalina is a priority. Then Lucario and Toon Link.

Wave 4:
Shulk and Meta Knight are the priority. Then King De-de-de. I don't see the rest being hard to find.

*It's worth noting that we're getting some early, so the Americans are gonna be stealing our stock; making launch a lot more competitive.


Tier list as of 5/01/2014:

Jeremy Kyle tier:
A set)
Little Mac
B set)
Villager
Marth
Wii Fit Trainer

Rare:
Kirby
Pit

Uncommon (Becoming rare):
Diddy Kong
Fox
Zelda
Captain Falcon

Common:
Mario
Yoshi
Peach
Luigi
Samus
Link
Donkey Kong
Pikachu
 
To be fair, you also have to take into account Nintendo's production capacity and general revenue versus Disney's. Disney is a giant who has had a gargantuan in-house toy division for decades. When it comes to this kind of stuff they're a well-oiled machine with a massive production capacity. Not only that, but if they over-ship some toys here and there, there's really no issue, because they're still pulling in billions annually - they can afford it. Hell, I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Disney's toy divisions made more money annually the Nintendo as a whole.

Nintendo on the other hand hasn't produced toys in-house in decades. This is their first big toy push since before they were even a games company as far as I can tell, and even then amiibos are probably bigger than any of their toy-company-days lines. Their production capacity is likely relatively small, so they have to focus their resources on the guaranteed sellers in the meantime - the Pikachus and the Marios, which means the Wii Fit Trainers get shorted. And of course, any unsold figures are going to sting a little more for Nintendo than they would Disney. As Nintendo starts recovering from their losses over the past few years and start building up their amiibo production lines and product line-up in general these issues will likely start to disappear, but in the meantime it's going to be like this for a while.

Well put, I sometimes forget just how small a company Nintendo really is and the financial hardships they've been going through.
BUT that still doesn't really explain why Nintendo is completely discontinuing figures that I'm pretty sure THEY KNOW will dam well sell. I do think it's a little bit of adding fear of not obtaining certain figures so everyone preorders EVERY figure right away out of fear of never being able to get them again if they don't act now.
 
Welp, this day was pretty much pointless, I was able to get the Pit shipped in the PO Box and looks really nice, but still no Falcon´s on my grubby hands.

Goddamit Best Buy what is taking you so long.
 
Bowser and Shiek are the only wave 3 amiibos I haven't preordered. I'm not worried about their availability at all (well, maybe Shiek might be hard but I doubt it) so I'm trying to hold off on completely splurging... lol.

I wish they were all readily available so I could space myself with purchases :(
 
To be fair, you also have to take into account Nintendo's production capacity and general revenue versus Disney's. Disney is a giant who has had a gargantuan in-house toy division for decades. When it comes to this kind of stuff they're a well-oiled machine with a massive production capacity. Not only that, but if they over-ship some toys here and there, there's really no issue, because they're still pulling in billions annually - they can afford it. Hell, I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Disney's toy divisions made more money annually the Nintendo as a whole.

Nintendo on the other hand hasn't produced toys in-house in decades. This is their first big toy push since before they were even a games company as far as I can tell, and even then amiibos are probably bigger than any of their toy-company-days lines. Their production capacity is likely relatively small, so they have to focus their resources on the guaranteed sellers in the meantime - the Pikachus and the Marios, which means the Wii Fit Trainers get shorted. And of course, any unsold figures are going to sting a little more for Nintendo than they would Disney. As Nintendo starts recovering from their losses over the past few years and start building up their amiibo production lines and product line-up in general these issues will likely start to disappear, but in the meantime it's going to be like this for a while.
This doesn't explain why certain figurines are already being discontinued even though there is clear demand for them.
 
This doesn't explain why certain figurines are already being discontinued even though there is clear demand for them.

They're also on a launch schedule, so they're pooling resources away from the less popular Amiibos into the upcoming waves. Nintendo doesn't have unlimited production equipment and manpower.
 
Regardless of Nintendo's production capabilities, they're doing an awful job at communicating dates and potential discontinuations, to the scalpers benefit.
 
They're also on a launch schedule, so they're pooling resources away from the less popular Amiibos into the upcoming waves. Nintendo doesn't have unlimited production equipment and manpower.
Anecdotally, they should stop producing amiibo like Pikachu and Mario then...I see those everywhere. I've yet to even see some of the famed "less popular" amiibo like Little Mac and Captain Falcon anywhere.
 
So Ike, Shulk, Dedede and Sheik (wtf) are the sold out preorderes here in Aus for Wave 3.

How's the rest of the world faring?
 
So I played Smash Wii U for one of the first times the other night (and curses because now I kind of want a Villager to train...but that won't be happening).
BUT anyway, much like almost everyone my friends and I were unable to get one of those blasted gamecube controller adaptors. So I've been looking at a few alternatives:

Hori Battle pad vs. PDP Wired Fight pad vs. WiiU Pro Controller

Any thoughts? I'm not a pro by any means but I'm probably best among my friends and use some advanced techniques. Plus I need my amiibo to be trained properly and not stumbling around :D
 
They're also on a launch schedule, so they're pooling resources away from the less popular Amiibos into the upcoming waves. Nintendo doesn't have unlimited production equipment and manpower.

Less popular? How can you determine their popularity when they shipped a specific amount at launch based on speculation rather than demand? Marth hasn't been available in stores since November. Meanwhile, my local Target still hasn't gone through their launch shipment of Kirby and Mario. I swear, people on this site will defend anything. Maybe they should just cancel the Amiibo line altogether if they don't have enough supply to fulfill demand. They're letting the scalpers win, and it's not cool.
 
Anecdotally, they should stop producing amiibo like Pikachu and Mario then...I see those everywhere. I've yet to even see some of the famed "less popular" amiibo like Little Mac and Captain Falcon anywhere.
It is because those actually sell more often than the rares you clamor about so much.
 
It is because those actually sell more often than the rares you clamor about so much.

They sell more often because there are more of them on the market. You can't walk into a store and buy Marth even if you wanted to. It's like people are afraid to admit that Nintendo has been handling this situation poorly.
 
This doesn't explain why certain figurines are already being discontinued even though there is clear demand for them.

Replace "Amiibos" with:
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures (Amiibos are nothing compared to NFC figures)
Bayonetta 2 Special Edition (For Europe only with 17000 ever made)
GameCube Adaptors for Smash (Competitive scene being hindered by this)

There's so much more I could add but you get the point. No-one understands Nintendo at this point or why they have the mentality of "Oh wow, there's a high demand for [this thing], better stop production on it!".

They sell more often because there are more of them on the market. You can't walk into a store and buy Marth even if you wanted to. It's like people are afraid to admit that Nintendo has been handling this situation poorly.

Exactly. This is Nintendo we're talking about. They enough money to make 5 more "Wii U" consoles and not feel the dent in their piggy bank. The fact they aren't making those Amiibos is because...well because. Whether these 'Amiibo cards' are going fix it is another thing.
 
Less popular? How can you determine their popularity when they shipped a specific amount at launch based on speculation rather than demand? Marth hasn't been available in stores since November. Meanwhile, my local Target still hasn't gone through their launch shipment of Kirby and Mario. I swear, people on this site will defend anything. Maybe they should just cancel the Amiibo line altogether if they don't have enough supply to fulfill demand. They're letting the scalpers win, and it's not cool.
Marth hasn't been in stores because it is one per box. A true Marth fan already bought it before the demand of them being "rare" garnered interest into certain collectors that had no intention buying him. Quite honestly if that is the reason that pushes people to buy Marth then they don't deserve to have him.
 
Less popular? How can you determine their popularity when they shipped a specific amount at launch based on speculation rather than demand? Marth hasn't been available in stores since November. Meanwhile, my local Target still hasn't gone through their launch shipment of Kirby and Mario. I swear, people on this site will defend anything. Maybe they should just cancel the Amiibo line altogether if they don't have enough supply to fulfill demand. They're letting the scalpers win, and it's not cool.

Wow, defensive much? Good lord.

I'm not defending anything. I'm just giving you a logical reason why you're not seeing WFTs, Marths, and Villagers everywhere. Companies produce based on projections. Stores purchase allocations based on projections. Projections are important, and Amiibos are a new and untested market product. Yeah, wave 1 hit late last year and they underestimated demand for certain Amiibos.

They made a wrong call. But they're already behind schedule on the next waves, so they're not going to go back and remake those waves. The production schedule is pre-determined and set. Once they re-visit the issue, and possibly expand production after the success of Amiibos, maybe they'll revisit older "discontinued" Amiibos.
 
Current collection:
Diddy Kong
Luigi
Mario
Link
Zelda
Pikachu
Yoshi
Wii Fit Trainer
Samus
Fox
Kirby
Little Mac

Awaiting shipment:
Captain Falcon
Pit

Preordered:
Mega Man
Shulk
Toon Link
Sheik
King DeDeDe
Ike
 
Got my spare Cpt Falcon in the mail from Amazon today. It has a slight crease in the packaging that im pretty bummed about... but its still sellable. Waiting for my extra pit to come in to sell as a bundle, or trade to someone for a figure I dont have.

Also - my TRU order that I placed on 12/28 is in my hometown, but its just chilling. Been there since 1/3. Not sure what the fuck UPS is doing with it. Its been on "destination scan" for nearly a week now.
 
I've seen the commons everywhere (except my local Wal-Mart which hasn't gotten a re-stock since before Christmas) in abundance. I said it's anecdotal, not factual.

Just because you see them on the shelves doesn't mean they're not selling. Considering the ratios that Nintendo (or the retailer) decided to implement on Amiibos, your shelves full of Mario could still mean that they sold a good deal more Marios than any other Amiibo.

I believe that Nintendo reported Link and Pikachu being two of the highest selling Amiibos. Of course, the flipside of that is that something can't sell if it's not available on the shelves.
 
Ok, so here are the facts:

-Wii Fit Trainer didn´t sold until it was rare, before that it was with Peach: The only amiibo left in most stores.
-Both Villager and Marth were REALLY under supplied. At launch I had to go buy amiibos to get in the buy 3 for $30 bucks deal and GCU. My Best Buy only had ONE villager and no Marths, TRU had 3 of each and they flew as I was standing there, Target had 3 of each and I bought Marth there, Walmart Had only Wii Fit Trainers and only one lonely villager with the box broken. Meanwhile, all other figures were readily available and had at least 6 of each. Gamestop sold the rare ones at launch and I was not able to get a Marth nor a Villager from them, I was 23rd on the line (They numbered is to receive smash)
-There was maybe ONE restock of all this figures and with the same quantities, I am aware there was one because I saw the box arriving at TRU at 9am and opened in front of us, I took my WFT from that box and an extra Marth to sell at my store. Same happened with Walmart, but they only had 2 WFT and thats it. This is on November 30 if I remember correctly.

-All other figures were restocked constantly at most stores, not any of this 3.


Wave 2:
Zelda, Diddy and Luigi got restocks. Pit, Captain Falcon and Little Mac, so far, haven´t.
Walmart has not stocked amiibos in store in most places.
TRU has not stocked Captain and Pit in most places.

Conclussion:
I think there is no point in blaming the strikes on this one, the fact is that the USA is incredibly large and NOA needs the help of the retailers to distribute equally, this is the reason why Nintendo of Japan and NOE have no trouble with the figures, because they are far more organized and have less territory to cover. NOE has a distribuitor per country, pretty much.

And retailers are NOT savy. Be sure that when they ordered amiibo they are not thinking "Oh yes, Marth from Fire Emblem, order as many as Samus for that one" and Villager is a character WITHOUT A NAME, sure, Animal Crossing is popular, but Villager is the player avatar and doesn´t have a name or a defined personality. Sure, characters like Link can be named anything you want, but he is clearly defined and has a personality beyond the player. So it makes sense that retailer and Nintendo themselves put no fate on him selling. Even if scalpers was not a thing the fact is that the figures are limited and were hard to find even at launch, when they were available if you looked hard enough and scalpers where not part of the equation in the level is now.

Is there hope for people that want to complete their collection? Well yes, yes there is. You can import, for once, for 10 bucks more you can get the figure you want. Now some are selling out, but we had a month to make the order.

Another option? Well, this is a first for Nintendo. Is the first time Nintendo makes a in-house toy production with collections purpose and it choose its more popular series to try it, Well, not really, is the SECOND time they have done this, the first was Pokemon Rumble figures and that sold decent... but not as amazing as Amiibos have.

Point is, if Nintendo sees there is money to be made, they can make a second print. The first is still not completely sold out worldwide and there is still 21 figures to announce and 32 to sell, I guess that is Nintendo´s priority: Sell what is left. Once that is done, if there is still money for them to be made, be sure NINTENDO IS GOING TO MAKE A REPRINT.

But don´t expect it to be exactly the same. Maybe they will change the package a little bit. Maybe the figures will look better. Or cheaper. Maybe they will be sold at bundles. We don´t know.

For know, I´ll keep collecting them. Because since melee when I saw Master Hand take a Mario trophy and thew it to the air I KNEW I wanted a collection of Nintendo Trophies.

And here we are now.
 
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