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[yodathesoda]

I'll answer that question the moment you the one that I asked you in my previous post:

If Peter Worell went after Bertuzzi it would be a fair fight and redemption for hitting Sakic. If Moore hit Sakic, Sakic most likely would attempt to settle the score himself because they are about equal size. Now your boy Naslund well, he's the one with no balls. Now after what I've just explained, would Jaarko fight Worell?

 

[Mike Works]

If Peter Worell went after Bertuzzi it would be a fair fight and redemption for hitting Sakic. If Moore hit Sakic, Sakic most likely would attempt to settle the score himself because they are about equal size. Now your boy Naslund well, he's the one with no balls.

So Steve Moore versus Markus Naslund is a fair fight?

Now after what I've just explained, would Jaarko fight Worell?

How the hell should I know, I'm not Jaarko. I won't say he would or he wouldn't, because I've seen Ruutu fight guys bigger and better (at fighting) than him numerous times, so it wouldn't surprise me if he took on Worrell like May did (though Ruutu's not as good a fighter as May).

Jarko Ruutu got in 7 fights last year, the most noticable being against Rob DiMaio and Rob Blake. On the other hand, Ruutu's role is that of an agitator, so it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't drop the gloves just to anger Worrell. So to (not) answer your question, I don't know, I could see him doing either. Depends on the circumstances I guess.

Now what the hell did that question have to do with ANYTHING?

 

[seanoff]

I know fuck all about ice hockey, but if u king hit a guy u should get no sympathy from anyone including the sport.

Fighting is a part of hockey, total cowardice does not belong in any sport esp a physical contact sport like hockey.

I suspect in most australian sports i know of, Betuzzi would not have played again ever at any level and probably would have faced court on common assault charges.


Cowards deserve no protection. Whatever happened before does not excuse cowrdice and he deserve whatever he gets.

2 u don't want to be setting a precedent, what's to stop someone bashing him with a stick from behind, should that stay out there as well. It's a fucking slippery slope that whatever happens stays out there.

I just want to re-iterate he's a coward and as such should have the fucking book thrown at him.

 

[Mike Works]

Cowards deserve no protection.

Given the context, that's pretty funny that you said that, but you admitted you know absolutely nothing about hockey, so I'm just going to leave your post there to sit pretty and attract anyone else that wants to debate the finer points of your concise argument.

 

[yodathesoda]

So Steve Moore versus Markus Naslund is a fair fight?

Marcus Naslund is 6'0 195 and Steve Moore is 6'2 205 so ummm YES.

Now what the hell did that question have to do with ANYTHING?

You say Moore should have faced Bertuzzi and that's to blame for Bertuzzi's actions yet you can't really decide if Ruutu would have dropped his own. I can answer that for you in a man to man fight against Worell he would have skated away just like Moore. I find it funny only Canuck fans are ever the ones to try to explain Bert's actions or explain to me the code within hockey I've played for 18 years.

 

[FightyF]

IMO, this should have been left on the ice, in the hands of the hockey commish/PA to be taken cared of.

No, those people aren't the ones you want handling a criminal investigation.

Look at what happened to McSorly, I didn't see this many people defend him, even though he wasn't the cause of the injury (it was Brashear's head hitting the ice that caused the most damage), yet it was obvious it was a cheap shot. Blatant cheap shots that cause extreme injuries are criminal acts.

 

[Mike Works]

Marcus Naslund is 6'0 195 and Steve Moore is 6'2 205 so ummm YES.

Markus Naslund is 6'0 195 and Tie Domi is 5-8 210 so ummm NASLUND SHOULD FIGHT DOMI THEN RIGHT

What a fucking joke.

You say Moore should have faced Bertuzzi

I said Moore should have faced a FIGHTER ie someone who FIGHTS ie not Matt Cooke. Moore facing Brad May would've been perfectly ideal given the context. I didn't want Bertuzzi to fight Moore (other than the enjoyment of seeing a huge guy toss around a sophomore who went after their star player/captain), I wanted May to fight him.

and that's to blame for Bertuzzi's actions

If Moore had fought Bertuzzi (or anyone else on the team who fights, Ruutu, May, Allen, Brookbank), it never would have happened. Moore not fighting Bertuzzi is not the reason for Bertuzzi's actions, but it's one of the lesser ones.

yet you can't really decide if Ruutu would have dropped his own.

No one can. There's no way to answer that question, especially if you don't give specifics. If you had asked me last year if Steve Moore would fight Brad May, I would've laughed, but if you would've asked me inbetween the two infamous Colorado/Vancouver games, I would've said yes. It all depends on context, but even then, there's no way of knowing if a guy who's known for bothing fighting and backing down from fights to agitate would do one thing or another.

I can answer that for you in a man to man fight against Worell he would have skated away just like Moore.

You can't answer that, because you don't know. But for your stupid hypothetical to be applicable, you'd have to include Ruutu elbowing Sakic, knocking him out, and then refusing to fight every fighter on the Avalanche, and then picking a fight with Milan Hejduk.

I find it funny only Canuck fans are ever the ones to try to explain Bert's actions or explain to me the code within hockey I've played for 18 years.

First, you never played in the NHL, and if you did, then you're probably Brett Lindros because you've been typing some stupid shit today. Second, if you aren't aware of the codes in hockey, then... seriously, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you've been playing field hockey?

And if you think Canucks fans are the only people who think there are certain codes in hockey when it comes to taking a run at star players, well, you're well on your way to challenging Drensch for retarded GAF hockey poster. Only about 45 or so more posts like this and you two will be neck and neck.

 

[SickBoy]

I like hockey, but it seems like every day I become more and more welcoming of the idea of banning fighting. This thread helps bolster that opinion.

 

[Mike Works]

I like hockey, but it seems like every day I become more and more welcoming of the idea of banning fighting. This thread helps bolster that opinion.

It really shouldn't. If Moore had fought Brad May, this wouldn't have happened. Cases can be made for either side, but if there's no fighting, you'll see more sucker punching and McSorely stick thwacking than we do now.

 

[SickBoy]

It really shouldn't. If Moore had fought Brad May, this wouldn't have happened. Cases can be made for either side, but if there's no fighting, you'll see more sucker punching and McSorely stick thwacking than we do now.

Well, I think it's odd to put blame on the guy who got his neck broken for not fighting the right person...

Obviously if fighting was banned, the league would need to step up sanctions for rough play considerably. But in international play, fighting is rare and at the Olympics, at least, it'll get you ejected. Yet you don't see people wacking each other over the head with sticks, even though the risk of future confrontation isn't there. I also think the quasi-talented goon isn't good for the quality of play, but he does have a place on at least some NHL teams today.

At any rate, I think it's all academic, because there's no way in hell the NHL would ban fights.

 

[dem]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...970081593064&DPL=IvsNDS/7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes

That Naslund questions Moore's character is indeed the topper. After all, at least Borje Salming stood up for himself. Naslund could have sought revenge against Moore himself last winter, could have dropped his gloves, lifted his protective visor and given the Harvard grad the old Ingemar Johansson one-two.

Instead, he let Brad May and Bertuzzi play judge and jury while he kept his Lady Byng tiara in place.

:lol

 

[darscot]

I shouldn't but I always get sucked in by these guys that have no understanding of the sport. Why is it that suddenly all these guys that have seen Miracel are suddenly experts on the NHL.

 

[bishoptl]

First, you never played in the NHL, and if you did, then you're probably Brett Lindros because you've been typing some stupid shit today.

:lol :lol