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NHL Offseason mid Aug: World Cup, signings, HC Davos to whup ass, etc

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dem

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Sucks for Scott.

Should have just taken the Devils offer. No one is going to get more than 8 million in arbitration.
 
dem

dem

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rofl.. apparently the argument was about Edmonton.

She was heard saying ""It's Canada or me"."
 
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Socreges

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dem said:
rofl.. apparently the argument was about Edmonton.

She was heard saying ""It's Canada or me"."
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...source? Hilarious, if true.

I pray I'm never faced with that ultimatum.
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Prague + Veronika vs. Edmonton + locker room full of sweaty men

I suppose he just wants more millions.
 
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Mike Works

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Socreges said:
Prague + Veronika vs. Edmonton + locker room full of sweaty men

I suppose he just wants more millions.
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Well when I say personally, it'd most likely be more along the lines of;

Europe + hot chick vs Vancouver + some job
 
Malakhov

Malakhov

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Who cares if he bets on Football games.

On the other hand if they find out he betted on a NHL game, he's toast.
 
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calder

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Pronger pulls out of World Cup

TSN.ca Staff

8/15/2004

Chris Pronger has withdrawn from the World Cup of Hockey, TSN has learned.

Sources told TSN that the big defenceman tweaked his previously injured right knee while training. Although the injury is not considered major, it is enough to force him to withdraw from the World Cup of Hockey, which starts August 31st for Team Canada.

Pronger apparently informed Hockey Canada of his decision to withdraw Sunday.

A replacement will be named from a group that is likely to include Jay Bouwmeester of the Florida Panthers, Brian McCabe of the Toronto Maple Leafs and Brad Stuart of the San Jose Sharks, amongst others.

Last season, Pronger scored 14 goals and added 40 assists in 80 games for the St. Louis Blues. It was a comeback year of sorts for the Dryden, Ontario native after appearing in only five regular season games the previous year recovering from wrist surgery.

For his career, Pronger has appeared in 722 regular season games, scoring 94 goals and 400 points while setting a mark of +125.
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Damn, that sucks. I'm hoping for Bouwmeester, to bring back some offense and skating to the D.
 
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Mike Works

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calder said:
Damn, that sucks. I'm hoping for Bouwmeester, to bring back some offense and skating to the D.
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Bouwmeester?? Everyone knows McCabe is better than Bouwmeester, Pronger, Jovanovski, Bourque, Orr, and the robot FOX hockey battle bot combined!
 
Malakhov

Malakhov

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Just bought myself a new jersey, so proud of this new acquisition:

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But this color:

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Mike Works

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That's a sweet jersey, I like the European look. If there is a lockout, I'm definitely getting a Naslund/Bertuzzi/Ohlund jersey from whatever team they play for.
 
Malakhov

Malakhov

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Mike Works said:
That's a sweet jersey, I like the European look. If there is a lockout, I'm definitely getting a Naslund/Bertuzzi/Ohlund jersey from whatever team they play for.
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You should get a Sweden Naslund jersey, that would be very nice.
 
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Socreges

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Bouwmeester replaces Pronger.

Losing both Blake and Pronger is rough, but at least it gives a couple youngins the opportunity.
 
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Mainline

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Silly pronger hurting himself. I *was* looking forward to a Blake/Pronger pair...I wanted to see some Slovakia players try to setup in the slot :(
 
Malakhov

Malakhov

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I'm not so sure about all these injuries, something makes me think that the players are bailing out of this world cup for a reason.
 
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Socreges

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Malakhov said:
I'm not so sure about all these injuries, something makes me think that the players are bailing out of this world cup for a reason.
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I agree. And I think that reason is injury.

Blake recently had surgery on his shoulder.

Yzerman had that very serious eye injury.

Pronger apparently re-injured his right knee during training. This one is more suspect, because it came out of nowhere, but I don't know why anyone would assume he'd fake something like that.

Belfour allegedly has a bad back, though it may also be because he doesn't want to warm the bench.
 
Malakhov

Malakhov

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I need to stop buying jerseys:

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Paid $200 CAD for it, nice buy though, not like Mr. Maurice Richard will be traded anytime soon :)
 
Malakhov

Malakhov

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Alright, some news, it's been a while:

Vinny Prospal traded to Tampa Bay for a 2nd round pick

The Lightning walked away from the 3.9 million awarded though arbitration to Stillman.

Thornton gets $6.75 million through arbitration

Coyotes re-Sign Mike Johnson to a rhree year deal

Kvasha gets 1.55 million through arbitration

Brendan Witt gets 2.2 million through arbitration

Coyotes re-signed Daymond Langkow to a one-year, $2.95-million contract

Chicago re-signed Brian Berard to a one-year, 3 million contract
 
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calder

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Sakic, Iginla, Gagne reunited

The Canadian Press

8/20/2004

OTTAWA (CP) - Joe Sakic passed the puck blindly to his right and found Jarome Iginla right on the tape.

Just like old times.

Sakic, Iginla and Simon Gagne were reunited Friday as Team Canada kicked off a 10-day training camp in preparation for the Aug. 30-Sept. 14 World Cup of Hockey.

Head coach Pat Quinn knows a good thing when he sees one. The Gagne-Sakic-Iginla line scored four of Canada's five goals in the gold medal victory at the Salt Lake Olympics two and half years ago.

Why mess with success?

"We knew right away we weren't going to break that one up, we were going to leave it together," Quinn said Friday after his team's first practice. "Now we'll find out what other ones we can pull together than can contribute as much."

Watched intently by a large group of media at the University of Ottawa hockey rink Friday, superstar Mario Lemieux, recovering from hip surgery, skated a line with Stanley Cup champions Martin St. Louis and Brad Richards -a combination that should send shivers down the spine of the Americans, Canada's opposition in the exhibition opener Monday in Columbus, Ohio.

Big Joe Thornton centred another dangerous line Friday with sniper Dany Heatley to his right and Patrick Marleau to his left.

The checking line, as expected, had Kris Draper between Kirk Maltby and Shane Doan, the same unit dubbed the International Grind Line in 2003 when Canada won the first of back-to-back IIHF world championships.

A fifth forward line Friday had Vincent Lecavalier between Ryan Smyth and Brenden Morrow, and it appears they'll be the odd men out come Monday night.

There's 26 players on the roster but only 20 can dress, meaning three forwards, two defenceman and one goalie will watch from the press box throughout the tournament.

"That's always the hardest part," Team Canada executive director Wayne Gretzky told a packed news conference after Friday's practice. "But I think we've explained to the players -we had a meeting last night -that only 20 guys can dress, that it's imperative everyone is on the same page, that we're going to try and put our best 20 players forward each and every game.

"But one of the things that's always made Team Canada great is that we have a group of unselfish players."

But just because Lecavalier, Smyth and Morrow looked to be on the outside looking in Friday, that doesn't mean they won't play in this tournament. The best-laid plans change in a hurry. Curtis Joseph started as the No. 1 goalie in Salt Lake but quickly lost his job to Martin Brodeur. Three of the four forward lines from the opening game at the Olympics were also scrapped.

"We may find that two or three games into this we'll need to tweak the lines," Quinn said.

Should Lemieux, for example, have a setback because of his hip, don't be surprised to see Lecavalier thrown into his spot between his Tampa Bay Lightning teammates.

The Sakic line is an important leftover from the Olympic team, given that only 10 of the 23 players who were in Salt Lake are on this year's World Cup squad.

One of the biggest hurdles for Canada in this tournament, including the old Canada Cups, is to come together quickly and find chemistry. Quinn hopes the Sakic line can simply pick up where it left off in Salt Lake.

"We were first put together in the second game in Salt Lake and I think with each game we started to feel more and more comfortable together," Sakic, named MVP at the Olympics, said after practice. "Hopefully by the first game here it'll be the same thing."

Iginla was thrilled to re-discover his Olympic linemates Friday.

"I had a great time playing with Joe and Gags in Salt Lake," said the Calgary Flames star. "You're never sure what the lines are going to be and this was just the first day, but it sure was fun to be back playing with them again."

Gagne, who surprised some observers by being named to the team after an average season with the Philadelphia Flyers, sounded somewhat surprised to be back on the big line.

"I was a bit nervous to be back with those two great players," Gagne said. "But we know each well from Salt Lake. It took just a few drills today to get our timing back together."

While the forward lines took shape Friday, the defence pairings seemed a little less written in stone. Veterans Scott Niedermayer and Adam Foote, Canada's top two blue-liners, played some of the practice together but were also split up.

Wade Redden, Ed Jovanovski, Eric Brewer and Robyn Regehr will likely fill out the group of six defencemen who will dress for most games with youngsters Scott Hannan and Jay Bouwmeester the odd men out.

Note: The U.S. team announced Friday that defenceman Eric Weinrich of the St. Louis Blues will replace Derian Hatcher of the Detroit Red Wings, who asked to be excused due to personal reasons.
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Those lines make me tingle deep inside. Holy jebus, look at our 5th line! And as much as I love Sakic/Iggy/Gagne and what they did in the gold medal game, that Thornton line looks like it might just dominate any defence, anytime. And the Lemieux line is sick!

Hehe, and no punkass Hatcher. Team USA's defence will look AHL caliber by the time the tourney starts. ;)
 
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bishoptl

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Each and every one of those lines should make the opposition tremble in fear. Absolutely lethal at every forward position. Even without Rob Blake or Chris Pronger, the defence looks strong as well. It's an embarassment of riches...Canada has no excuse for not coming home with the gold with that roster.
 
dem

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In the exhibition games..

Sweden beat Slovakia 2-0
(Sedin, Naslund)

and Russia TIED the Germans 3-3

0:1 (06:32) Samsonov PP
1:1 (26:29) M.Goc (Ehrhoff)
1:2 (28:47) Afanasenkov (Chubarov)
1:3 (30:13) Frolov
2:3 (34:14) M. Goc (Hecht) SH
3:3 (44:58) Ehrhoff
 
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calder

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If they'd had one or two more players opt not to play I'd say Russia would be live and death to beat a team composed entirely of GAF posters. As long as someone here has goalie equipment.

In no small part because the Olys have been a shuddering disaster for Canada, the World Cup is starting to look dead sexy. The updates from training camp and all the speculation about lines and pairings on TSN and Sportsnet have me all giddy.



And potentially the scariest story of the week for Leaf Nation - Belfour may need back surgery. Without him for half a season or so, do the Leafs even make the playoffs? Who could they possibly trade for? Turek? Osgood? :lol
 
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bishoptl

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calder said:
In no small part because the Olys have been a shuddering disaster for Canada
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Didn't we win men and women's gold last time around? That's all that matters!

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WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY
 
dem

dem

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Kipper gets 2.95 in arbitration

Finland and the Czechs tie 1-1 (Fin- Lehtinen, Czechs- Zidlicky)


Canada vs Usa play tonight in an exhibition game. For some reason no one is broadcasting it except leafstv. Who the hell gets leafstv??
 
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Mike Works

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Malakhov said:
Oh yeah, 15 minutes left!

GO CANADA GO!
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15 minutes left in the game or until the game starts (I'm at work, so I can't listen to it)??

Also, Cloutier makes more than Kiprusoff. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
 
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calder

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Brutal that the exhibition games isn't televised. Like Sportsnet has something better to do. :rolleyes

Kipper making just under 3 is fair I guess, but I don't like the reports that he was a bit pissed at how the Flames made their case in arbitration. Ah well, the players always pout about it when someone says something bad about them but when they switch teams to make an extra $50 somewhere suddenly it's all just business.
 
Malakhov

Malakhov

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Arbitration is always a risky thing, it's pretty much the team bringing up bad stuff about the player so he gets a lower reward, not fun. That's why you want to avoid going there.
 
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bishoptl

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I dunno - switching teams because somebody else offers you a bigger contract does seem like business. It's not like you're going into a meeting with your agent and the GM, then telling the GM that he sucks, his work ethic is lacking, and he doesn't deserve the money he's getting. Whereas in arbitration, that's exactly what happens.

I remember years ago when Tommy Salo went through arbitration with the NY Islanders. I don't have the article handy, but apparently the Isles braintrust was so vicious in their portrayal of his work, he was in tears by the end of the process.
 
Malakhov

Malakhov

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mightynine said:
For you hockey lovers: What's this I hear about the NHL redesigning their logo?
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Commissioner Gary Bettman stated that he sees the potential work stoppage an "opportunity to re-launch on all fronts." Aside from the updated logo, the league will be emphasizing the more sportsmanlike qualities of the game in their approach, focusing on respect and sacrifice, as opposed to the fast paced action.
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Teh dumb.
 
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calder

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bishoptl said:
I dunno - switching teams because somebody else offers you a bigger contract does seem like business. It's not like you're going into a meeting with your agent and the GM, then telling the GM that he sucks, his work ethic is lacking, and he doesn't deserve the money he's getting. Whereas in arbitration, that's exactly what happens.

I remember years ago when Tommy Salo went through arbitration with the NY Islanders. I don't have the article handy, but apparently the Isles braintrust was so vicious in their portrayal of his work, he was in tears by the end of the process.
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Well, Salo *was* a bit of a sensitive sally, but the Islanders under Milbury aren't exactly known for tact or even brains. And it's a coin toss about whether the player will take it as a part of business or cry about it like a jilted prom date - they *shouldn't* take it personal within reason since I consider it pretty much the exact same thing as when they hold out, demand trades, use the media to pressure the owners to give them extensions etc.
 
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bishoptl said:
I remember years ago when Tommy Salo went through arbitration with the NY Islanders. I don't have the article handy, but apparently the Isles braintrust was so vicious in their portrayal of his work, he was in tears by the end of the process.
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They probably bought him a Belarus sweater.

(yes, I know that's chronologically illogical)
 
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