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NHL Offseason mid Aug: World Cup, signings, HC Davos to whup ass, etc

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dem

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In no way is Komisarek better than Martin right now. Besides.. Martin plays the same kind of game Leopold does.

Who they should have picked was PAUL MARA
 

Malakhov

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Komisarek is a very good young D and the way he played in the playoffs last season, he would of been a perfect pick ahead of Martin. Also, Komisarek is gonna be a regular on team u.s.a real soon so giving him experience would of been a good thing.
 

dem

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Malakhov said:
Also, Komisarek is gonna be a regular on team u.s.a real soon so giving him experience would of been a good thing.

Same could be said about Martin.
 

dem

Member
Oh, I do.
Komisarek = overrated

Whenever I watch the guy I come away with the impression that he's just dumb. Doesn't see the game very well.

Maybe you can chalk that up to being young.. but I dont like him.
 

calder

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Damn, forgot about the game radio.

3-0, Richards scores. Good that the Lemieux line is clicking.


These exhibition games are either going to make me a Buckeys fan or Buckeyes hater, it's a coin toss at this point.
 

Malakhov

Banned
Oh boy something tells me you havent seen much of him, Komisarek is a monster and nowhere near overrated and I'm not saying that because he's a habs, because I'll be the first to admit that some of our prospects are overrated (ie. Hainsey and Hossa). And yes he's making mistakes but that's rookie mistakes and in the playoffs he elevated his play so much that Gainey has given him a full time spot next season. The Bruins players had to watch their backs everytime he was on the ice or they'd end up on the board splattered.

Komisarek is at least as good as Leopold and Martin and Komisarek only played 2 years of NCAA hockey but in his sophomore seasons (as a 19 year old) he was First Team Conference All Stars and an All American selection. Leopold didn't manage neither as a 19 year old soph. Martin managed neither as a 20 year old soph. Komo scored more points as soph even though Leopold and Martin played for the highest scoring NCAA team in the most wide open conference. Mike is way bigger and play more physical as well.
 

dem

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I've seen quite enough of him to make my judgement. Maybe I'm off.. but we'll see.

I know it might seem like I just call every Habs prospect overrated, but its not like I hate the Habs or something. Hell, I REALLY hate the Flames and I feel Leopold is twice the player Komisarek is.
 

Malakhov

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The difference is the Flames have twice the defensive system the Habs have :p

Anyways, we'll see in a few seasons, you'll have to bite your toungue.
 

calder

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Hey Malakhov why are you comparing a year in the NCAA? Don't want to compare their first year in the NHL? ;)

Komisarek is probably a bit better of a prospect, but despite being just one year older Martin had a *MUCH* better year. He played the whole year on a much better team, while Komisarek spent part of the year in the minors despite being on a thinner team. That's a great reason for taking Martin over Komisarek right now, no sane person would pick Komisarek for this tourney over Martin.

GP 70 G-6 A-18 pts24 +12
GP 46 G-0 A-4 pts4 +4

Guess who's who. ;)
 

Malakhov

Banned
You forget to mention that the Habs have nowhere near the defensive system the Flames have and that the Habs is probably one of the worst team you can be on as a rookie. The youth don't have any chance with the Habs. Heck, Hossa came in 2 seasons ago, had something like 5 goals in 7 games or so then went scoreless for a few games and was immediately sent down. It's always the same thing though it appears it has changed with Gainey up there.

If you're not french or you don't insanely produce (ie: Ryder) forget it.
 

Malakhov

Banned
Theodore first star of the game!

He was given a really nice standing ovation when his name was called. Great great performance, 18 saves on 19 shots, many of which were clutch.

GO THEO! :D
 

calder

Member
Gill broke his foot? Wow. Hell by the time the tourney starts Komisarek, and Marra, and maybe A.J. Thellen will be on the team. ;)


Pierre Lebrun (CP, The Score I think) did a report card for tonights exhibition game.
OTTAWA (CP) - A report card look at Team Canada after Wednesday night's 3-1 exhibition win over the United States:

Forwards

Vincent Lecavalier, A: May have played his way onto the starting 20 for next week with a masterful performance, including opening goal when he used Super Mario as a decoy.

Dany Heatley, A: MVP of this year's IIHF world championship continues to shine, creating the turnover which led to Sakic's goal and looking dangerous on every shift.

Ryan Smyth, A: Veteran of six IIHF world championships was at his gritty best, creating space for linemates Lecavalier and Heatley.

Brad Richards, A: Conn Smythe Trophy winner was flying on Lemieux's left side, creating chances and finishing his own on Canada's third goal.

Mario Lemieux, B-plus: Looked dangerous in his first game since last November. Will only get better.

Shane Doan, B-plus: Two straight impressive games for power forward.

Joe Sakic, B-plus: Found his groove after a slow star Monday.

Jarome Iglina, B: Iggy hasn't gone into high gear yet.

Brenden Morrow, B: Two bad penalties in the first period but a physical presence.

Martin St. Louis, B-minus: Pressed too much playing with Lemieux; needs to relax.

Patrick Marleau, B-minus: Mishandled the puck on several occasions.

Joe Thornton, C: Big Joe is playing his way into the press box.

Defence

Jay Bouwmeester, A: Thunderous hit on Tony Amonte was bodycheck of the game, rushed the puck up the ice with confidence and made the right first pass out of his zone.

Adam Foote, A: Veteran a solid physical force, clearing the front of the net with authority.

Scott Niedermayer, A: World's best skater displayed his Norris Trophy form: tape-to-tape passes and smart decisions.

Eric Brewer, B-plus: Much better effort after Monday's forgettable game, played a physical game.

Wade Redden, B-plus: Moved the puck well and made smart decisions.

Scott Hannan, B: Solid but unspectacular.

Robyn Regehr, B: Ditto.

Ed Jovanovski, B-minus: Canucks star's giveaway led to American goal; made other poor decisions.

Goal

Roberto Luongo, A: Responded big time to Monday's shaky performance. High-light glove save off Keith Tkachuk's deflection.

Jose Theodore, A: No chance on Drury rebound goal, breakaway glove save off Brian Rolston was superb.
 

calder

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Again, in case anyone is interested.

World Cup fantasy league at FSN.com

Looks pretty fun, just create a team and pick the winners for each game, adding total SOG and final score as tie breakers.

I created a GAF league if you're interested in joining. To find it, after you sign up and create a team go to the League Directory and search for a *private* league, FSN's search (and interface, and most things) kinda sucks. If you want to just scroll through the league directory our league is on the fifth page, you can join by clicking on the join link.

League name: "Gaming-Age"
password: "gaffer"

So far there's just me and Koopa/Malakhov I think. The deadline for making your first pick is Monday at noon - the day of the first game. You can edit your picks right up to the day of the game if you want. Those first few days will be tough to predict.
 

Mainline

Member
So much hockey for Ryan Smyth...he has no time to have my babies...OMG YES YES YES! If he doesn't dress for the games I am going to I am going to be very disapointed.
 

Malakhov

Banned
Well here goes my chance to see Gauthier with the Habs :(

And the flames have just traded my favorite player from their team besides Iginla, Saprykin.
 

Socreges

Banned
Kariya reportedly has a very good chance of signing with the Canucks. He may be in an early twilight, but he'd still be a great addition.

Shit like this makes me regret the lockout even more. Not to mention how many Canucks are in their prime or close to it.

PS. Naslund scores in OT to push Sweden past Finland. He'd better come back. :(
 

Malakhov

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Hull
Comrie
Doan
Nagy
Nedved
Johnson
Saprykin
Ricci
Sjostrom
Taffe
Rupp
Kolanos
Cleary
Westrum
Nash
Chimera
Deveraux
Westrum

Morris
Mara
Tanabe
O'Donnell
Hulse
Gauthier
Ference
Spiller
Ballard

That's good depth. All they need is a goalie.
 

Malakhov

Banned
August 26, 2004

There will be no NHL season in 2004-05 if you believe the what the union is telling its members.

According to a report, the union didn't mix words when meeting with members of the U.S.'s entry in the World Cup of Hockey at the team's hotel prior to the U.S. vs. Canada exhibition game Wednesday.

"We were basically told [by union boss Bob Goodenow and senior director Ted Saskin] the same thing that we've been hearing all summer and it doesn't sound like they're getting anywhere in these negotiations," Team U.S.A.'s Bryan Smolinski told Sun Media.

"They said they were going to meet and don't expect anything to happen." It's the same old story. Is there going to be a salary cap? No. Are they getting anywhere in discussions? No. And we were warned that we had to be prepared for the lockout to last a year."

While NHL negotiators refused to comment on the talks, which produced nothing of any significance on Wednesday but are expected to continue Thursday, they continue to hold fast to their position that "cost certainty" is needed if the NHL is going to survive.

The Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in 19 days on Sept. 15.

:(
 

calder

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Gauthier AND Saprykin?? For Langkow? Not sure I like that deal at all, although Langkow is a good replacement for Conroy I guess. :|

I'm sure now Saprykin will blossom offensively. I really loved his work the last couple of seasons - he sucked up a totally changed role and eventually worked his ass off to earn his ice time. I was sure this season he'd start really putting it together on offense too.

Gauthier is a nice 5th D, but his injuries and shortcomings I can do without.


USA Hockey today announced that defenceman John-Michael Liles of the Colorado Avalanche will replace Hal Gill on Team USA's roster for the World Cup of Hockey.
I'm telling you, A.J. Thelen is warming up now. ;)
 

dem

Member
The union would be retarded to sit out for a year. A year off would result in a massive loss of earnings in a players career.




Anyway...
Now wtf are the Oilers going to do?? We need a center god dammit. I think its time for THE BIG E... :D
 

Malakhov

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Yeah Suther worked on Sapry a whole lot and Sapry was polishing his play. I'm not sure if it's a good deal for the flames, for now yes but in a few years, hmm...
 

calder

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From the FSN fantasy league (and you bitches WILL sign up and join the GAF league), they added a Pick Distribution area where you can see the overall % for all the picks. But they make no sense AT ALL, I think they must be wrong.

Friday, September 03, 2004 @ 1:00 PM
Germany 94.99 %
Czech Republic 5.01 %
Tie 4.44 %

Friday, September 03, 2004 @ 7:00 PM
United States 12.91 %
Slovakia 87.09 %
Tie 6.69 %

Thursday, September 02, 2004 @ 1:30 PM
Finland 6.59 %
Germany 93.41 %
Tie 6.37 %

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 @ 7:00 PM
Slovakia 98.01 %
Canada 1.99 %
Tie 1.57 %


Actually those make sense if they are the reverse or something... no way in hell 98% of all the teams are picking Slovakia to beat Canada. They must have their stats showing up opposite of what the picks actually are.
 
The Langkow trade seems to make sense to me. Gauthier was a spare part at best, and Phaneuf is showing more overall potential than Saprykin. Plus, they get Langkow to replace Conroy. (I could have swore Langkow played on one of Iginla's WHL Champ teams, but maybe I'm mistaken)

The flames need the roster spots more than they need to hang onto non-sure thing players.

As for the Canucks - please god sign Kariya - and the Coyotes? I don't know whether they are a power-house in the making, or a mirage like the St. Louis Blues.
 

Socreges

Banned
Mike Works said:
Where are these Canucks - Kariya rumors stemming from anyway?
Read... The Province (shudder). Apparently an NHL GM said "he's heading to Vancouver" and someone from Orca Bay confirmed that they have been in talks.
 
The vancouver media is always suspect (really, people, galagher is the spong of journalists) but it was confirmed that the team has attempted to get him in previous years.
 

Gregory

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I`m really looking forward to the tournament but I think there should be more teams playing, like in the world championships.

If Germany is deemed good enough to participate so should many others. Unless there was some qualifying rounds or something?
 

dem

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After Germany theres a pretty big dropoff. You could maybe put Belarus in the mix.... but then you would have 9 teams.

I expect the Ukraine to start putting together a pretty decent team in the future though.
 

Gregory

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dem said:
After Germany theres a pretty big dropoff. You could maybe put Belarus in the mix.... but then you would have 9 teams.

I expect the Ukraine to start putting together a pretty decent team in the future though.

I see on the iihf.com site that Germany is ranked 8th so I guess that`s why they`re in the tournament. I would have thought Switzerland, Belarus and Latvia were better though. Hell, even Denmark.

Anyway, none of these teams would have been really competitive, just like Germany won`t be for that matter, so I guess it`s understandable there`s only 8 teams.

Plus there`s always the yearly world championships so..
 

dem

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Czech Republic beat Sweden today 5-3

hmmm
Czech Republic +600
Finland +1300

Anyone else itching to bet on this tourny?
 

dem

Member
Canada vs Slovakia is going to be on sportsnet today.
5 pm MT

Unless youre in Ontario.. then its still on Leafs tv.
 

Mainline

Member
Awesome that it's on tv, I leave in the morning for Montreal to watch the Canada/US and Canada/Slovakia games too...good times
 

Gregory

Banned
Damn, I just noticed while watching the Sweden - Czech training match that they`re playing on small NHL sized rinks.

I really prefer normal sized european/olympic rinks, makes the play flow much better. Oh well. :/
 

calder

Member
About time they had these freaking exhibition games on TV. It breaks my heart that CBC will air all the Euro pool games live too - so tempting to take an afternoon or two off.

Isn't someone going to make an official thread? Something with schedules and a few links or something.

And join the FSN league. It takes 5 minutes!

Oh hey Mainline, you might wanna move your FSN team from the other league I made to the Gaming-Age one. My brother is up north, so he didn't email the invite to the guys in our roto baseball league so no one is going to join it.
 

calder

Member
I'll accept ppl not joining the pick'em league if you use the phrase "afraid of another fantasy hockey beatdown from calder".

Still can't believe System rode a full Flames lineup to a wire-to-wire win in the Playoff pool. :lol I haven't finished lower than 2nd in a hockey fantasy game in a couple of years though, and I made a few hundred bucks last year at it. But losing the playoff pool to someone who just went with his heart and picked all flames... that sorta hurt. ;)
 
Hey Sportsnet, guess what the ratio of Canadian National Hockey Team fans there are to Blue Jays fans in Vancouver.

C'mon guess.
 

calder

Member
Aw crap, stupid Jays game is going to cut into the game. 8th inning, pitching change, fuck this is going to be another 15 minutes if we're lucky. Damn baseball and their inability to have a game come in under 3 hours long.
 
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