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Circle T

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I'm still waiting for their service to read the id3 tags and album art properly

I've spent a lot of time over the years making sure my music is tagged properly, and has the correct artwork. Google Music just pulled everything of mine in perfectly. All albums and artists show correctly, and all previously set artwork shows as well. What is it doing for you?
 

3phemeral

Member
The xda forums are super hit-and-miss for me. A lot of the devs contributions are great, but sometimes, I'll come across a set of directions that will be to the effect of:

"then after file is successfully modded, chmod -r 777 chown /data/system/etc"

And I'm like, what? Only to find it's skipping the whole uploading file to the proper root directory, some intro terminal emulator bit with sh access then mount drive, etc etc. It's so weird seeing walls of text explaining modifications for some things, but once you're in the middle of rooting/flashing/pushing files, you suddenly realize you're missing a crucial step, so it's nerve wracking. Also makes it hard to ask questions when people can be fairly hostile to "simple" questions.

Just recently in the tf101 thread, there were members complaining about how Asus couldn't get the ics upgrade debacle straight over whether to cold boot before or after updating to .24. Then a few posters mentioned how crappy it must be for non-techie consumers to experience major update issues without having an outlet for repair other than Asus RMA, only for some to reply back "not really a problem because all you have to is google "cold boot." how hard can that be? stop complaining. I haven't had any SOD or RR and I'm using stock with guevor's kernel. You're over-exaggerating. Their fault if they didn't read asus' facebook page for instructions."

It's like, seriously? lol
 

rc213

Member
So the Tmo GSII update blows. Not ICS, Just a similar lockscreen, a few changed icons and it removed scrollable wallpapers.
 
I've spent a lot of time over the years making sure my music is tagged properly, and has the correct artwork. Google Music just pulled everything of mine in perfectly. All albums and artists show correctly, and all previously set artwork shows as well. What is it doing for you?

It repeated like 3 album covers over the entirety of my Google cloud collection...I mean its a small problem but its so annoying
 

Cipherr

Member
Well if it's something he wants, ala full custom roms he might want to take it back while he can.

Please..... you were trolling him and you know it. Why exactly would someone coming from an iPhone who made the post that he did give a single solitary damn about a locked boot loader? Furthermore, what in the hell is someone who is upset with stability going to want with a mess of custom roms, the majority of which are unstable themselves to begin with, or massively void of functionality here and there. Get real.
 
Enjoy your locked boot loader!

Well if it's something he wants, ala full custom roms he might want to take it back while he can.
I know I won't buy a moto phone for this very reason.

Not everybody put custom roms on their device and he's coming from an iOS, which means he can already do so much more stuff on the one X than his iphone.

Plus the screen!! he can enjoy that regardless of the lock bootloader...
 

Yaboosh

Super Sleuth
Well if it's something he wants, ala full custom roms he might want to take it back while he can.
I know I won't buy a moto phone for this very reason.



I don't know, I guess it just came off more like you were just trying to make him feel bad about his purchase. It is a valid criticism of a phone, sure.
 

DarkFlow

Banned
"enjoy DAT nonSENSE MEMORY MANAGEMENT" would have been a much better troll response.
That was going to be my next post. :p anyway the one x is a sexy phone, plus the quad core. Just seems to be a lot of HTC issues with it.

Also most android users at some point are going to want to drive into the murky world of rooting. Seeing as the task manager is all kinds of messed up on that phone that's a valid way to get the most out of it.
 

DarkFlow

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Please..... you were trolling him and you know it. Why exactly would someone coming from an iPhone who made the post that he did give a single solitary damn about a locked boot loader? Furthermore, what in the hell is someone who is upset with stability going to want with a mess of custom roms, the majority of which are unstable themselves to begin with, or massively void of functionality here and there. Get real.
That phone is messed up more then the locked bootloader (that HTC said they were done doing awhile ago btw). A custom rom at this point would most likely fix that f'ed up task manager and make that phone 100X better. Also HTC is super slow at pushing updates, and with no custom roms he's stock on whatever android version HTC wants to grace him with. So you my friend need to "get real".
 

Zeppu

Member
Anyone who believes this is delusional. A small minority of Android users are going to want to drive into the murky world of rooting.

I rooted my HTC Hero the day I got it. I've installed tens of ROMs on it and I've helped many of my friends root their own device. I am a developer and love this sort of stuff so it was the logical thing to do.

I got a Galaxy Nexus and challenged myself to see how long it would take me to find it necessary to root my device. That was 6months ago. I still haven't. It could be that it's because I have the vanilla experience, but most limitations as to why people rooted (market enabler, wifi hotspot, etc..) two+ years ago have almost all been tackled and solved, so I agree with you completely. Rooting is, I think, for a very small subset of users.
 

ThatObviousUser

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I rooted my HTC Hero the day I got it. I've installed tens of ROMs on it and I've helped many of my friends root their own device. I am a developer and love this sort of stuff so it was the logical thing to do.

I got a Galaxy Nexus and challenged myself to see how long it would take me to find it necessary to root my device. That was 6months ago. I still haven't. It could be that it's because I have the vanilla experience, but most limitations as to why people rooted (market enabler, wifi hotspot, etc..) two+ years ago have almost all been tackled and solved, so I agree with you completely. Rooting is, I think, for a very small subset of users.

Agreed. I've never seriously considered rooting my Galaxy Nexus.

I am considering rooting and installing some kind of stock ROM if I get my dad the Razr Maxx later, but I probably won't since I'm inexperienced and don't want to eff it up.
 
That was going to be my next post. :p anyway the one x is a sexy phone, plus the quad core. Just seems to be a lot of HTC issues with it.

Also most android users at some point are going to want to drive into the murky world of rooting. Seeing as the task manager is all kinds of messed up on that phone that's a valid way to get the most out of it.

A locked bootloader doesn't mean a phone can't be rooted. It also doesn't prevent you from installing custom roms. It just doesn't allow you to install custom kernels and radios.
 

kehs

Banned
Anyone who believes this is delusional. A small minority of Android users are going to want to drive into the murky world of rooting.

$su
$chmod -rw
$adb reboot


Don't tell me that's not tempting every single person picking up an Optimus V.
 

gcubed

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I was playing with Viewdini today. Its freaking awesome... Verizon got someone to make a fantastic android app and *gasp* its out on Android first (LTE devices I believe)
 

kehs

Banned
The PC dominance begins.

$49 Android PC

  • ARM 11 800MHz processor
  • 2GB of NAND flash
  • microSD card slot
  • 4 full-sized USB ports
  • 512MB of RAM,
  • VGA port,
  • HDMI port
  • Ethernet port
  • Android 2.3 (wtf?)

via-49-android-pc.jpg
 

Zeppu

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Question: How many of you with 4+" screens use landscape mode regularly? (except to watch videos)

I for one haven't typed in landscape ever since I updated from 3.2" to 4.6" and only very rarely do I read websites in landscape mode.
 

gcubed

Member
Question: How many of you with 4+" screens use landscape mode regularly? (except to watch videos)

I for one haven't typed in landscape ever since I updated from 3.2" to 4.6" and only very rarely do I read websites in landscape mode.

if i have to type a lot very fast, i switch to landscape, but other then those rare times and digesting media (pictures and videos), i'm never in landscape
 

ThatObviousUser

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The PC dominance begins.

$49 Android PC

  • ARM 11 800MHz processor
  • 2GB of NAND flash
  • microSD card slot
  • 4 full-sized USB ports
  • 512MB of RAM,
  • VGA port,
  • HDMI port
  • Ethernet port
  • Android 2.3 (wtf?)

via-49-android-pc.jpg

Android 4.0 actually makes for a decent desktop computer OS. I could see it replacing Windows someday.

I could see it. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
Android 4.0 actually makes for a decent desktop computer OS. I could see it replacing Windows someday.

I could see it. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

Why would anyone bother when they can just get a linux computer? Android would have to get a decent filesystem UI before I start seeing it as a PC. *fingers crossed* Duarte tackles this for Jelly Bean.
 

Pctx

Banned
Android is actually more mature and user-friendly than Linux proper at this point. It's actually kind of sad.
Andrex I kept meaning to ask... have you tried out that Cotton Candy USB Android 4.0 on a stick yet? Interested to read some first hand impression from GAFFERS.
 

Kagami

Member
market enabler...tackled and solved
Did I miss something?
Is there a better way around territory restrictions than market enabler?
I've been relying on it to let me buy Japanese apps while on a U.S. carrier.
I guess I could take out the SIM and run a wi-if connection through a VPN but that's more of a hassle than rooting.
 

tino

Banned
You guys don't realize Android is replacing Windows?

The mobile devices are replacing desktops.

10 years from now, I can download movie/porn from my NAS box; type in a portable keyboard and have the screen mirrored to my tablet or my 70" 4K TV; browse facebook on my phone or my freaking terminator gaggle; type my school paper or resume on google doc or evernote on the cloud, there is no reason to need a desktop computer.

You guys think Andoird/iOS can't replace Windows?

I will tell you when will Windows become obsolete. The date Adobe make a tablet version of Photoshop that's as function as the desktop version, it's exactly the date desktop OS is decleared death.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
Android is actually more mature and user-friendly than Linux proper at this point. It's actually kind of sad.
What do you think about Ubuntu?



The Rom I tried out fucked up the usb filesystem access. Kies Air wouldn't work either. Even the file explorer tool from the Android sdk wasn't doing the trick. Dropbox and WiFi is too slow for transferring files :/ That's one feature I miss from the Galaxy Tab — hot swappable microsd cards. I hate having to reboot. That's why I prefer external battery backs to swapping batteries. That's the other thing I miss form the Galaxy Tab was the battery life — the Galaxy Tab 7.7 could go 2 days on a charge. The Galaxy Note gets about a day (the iPhone 4S was 3/4s of a day and the Galaxy Nexus was about 2/3s to half a day)... Anyway I switched back to the Samsung ICS. Root access is enough for my needs for now.

So yeah, to follow up on Tino's comments, what the community needs to replace, or serve as starter before, xda forums is a:
1) a blog, review site, wiki or even a freaking google docs spreadsheet that just lists each ROM, their features and where to find them.
2) a site with installation instructions and videos for each of the popular ROMs.

That would take care of 90% of the problems that power users and noobs have with xda.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Ubuntu's great but Unity is trash, it also doesn't have the font problem solved and the Software Center has promise it has a steep mountain to climb.
 

ThatObviousUser

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I will tell you when will Windows become obsolete. The date Adobe make a tablet version of Photoshop that's as function as the desktop version, it's exactly the date desktop OS is decleared death.

The cool part is they could do that right now if they wanted. Android provides app makers all the power to make desktop-class apps if they want (unlike iOS and WP which are sandboxed* to hell and back.) Only a matter of time IMO.

*Android is sandboxed to, but not to the detriment of developers.
 

SimleuqiR

Member
The cool part is they could do that right now if they wanted. Android provides app makers all the power to make desktop-class apps if they want (unlike iOS and WP which are sandboxed* to hell and back.) Only a matter of time IMO.

*Android is sandboxed to, but not to the detriment of developers.

I keep hearing about the "joys" of developing for iOS, and how Android is a pain in the butt to develop for. For example, on yesterdays Tech News Today they briefly talked about it:

http://twit.tv/show/tech-news-today/505

Edit: could be Fridays episode: http://twit.tv/show/tech-news-today/504

I can't speak from experience since I'm not a developers. But it seems this is the consensus every time this topic comes up.
 
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