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foodtaster
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No. You can't compare 2 to 3 to 2.2 to 2.3. Are you serious? You have to compare them at similar points in time. iOS 4 vs Froyo. 2.3 included lots of stuff that you could not use nor was implemented anyways. Like SIP and NFC. Only a year later after its release are you starting to see it being used.rozay said:
walbertsmith
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Wow. Very very interesting article.
http://www.osnews.com/story/25264/Did_Android_Really_Look_Like_BlackBerry_Before_the_iPhone_
http://www.osnews.com/story/25264/Did_Android_Really_Look_Like_BlackBerry_Before_the_iPhone_
I specifically said number of features cause I don't remember a whole lot changing on the surface with IOS 3, I wasn't referring to the time periods or features. Gingerbread had tons of under the hood improvements, implemented system wide copy and paste, a much better keyboard and VOIP, NFC, and video calling.foodtaster said:
The only reason I replied to your post was because you tried to pass it off as just a subtle update, which it was not. Nowhere near as important as froyo was to android, but still a decent update.
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iapetus said:
It's also worth noting the first Android SDK was released I think about 8 months before the iPhone's. Although that 6 min video may not show it, Android was all about third-party apps back then, when in iPhone-land developers were told to "just make web apps."
Does that really matter? The iPhone was introduced in january 2007. Schmidt would still have had access to information about the phone and so on. I mean all this tells us is that Google might have "stolen" (If we are to believe Steve) stuff earlier than we thought.walbertsmith said:
CurlySaysX
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will ics fix the wake lock issue that has plagued android since forever, or at least make it more transparent as to what apps are keeping the OS awake?
How hard can it be? screen off, put the fkking phone into sleep.
How hard can it be? screen off, put the fkking phone into sleep.
dream said:tipb.com put up a really cool image about it:
To be fair, Apple kept selling the 3GS for much longer than Google made the N1. I'd still feel kind of ripped off if I was an owner. Custom roms are great and all, but it's always nice to know that official support is still ongoing.
Subliminal
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Don't know what the Nexus one owners are complaining about. Us HTC Hero owners got shat on within 6 months of buying!
And Google sold about 200 nexus ones in comparison to millions of 3GS's, not to mention that probably only 50 of those are still even working. Its funny to get apple fans posting in the thread bitching about something they are clueless on.Alien Bob said:
That's copernicus' job.
forknknife
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Wow, I really hope the Galaxy Nexus is not exclusive to just one carrier in Europe too. Specially if it's T-mobile.
Vyse The Legend
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x-Lundz-x said:
And the HTC Vigor/Rezound, another 720p superphone.
In other words, Verizon made the right decision skipping out on the S2.
To everyone freaking out about the Galaxy Nexus being "exclusive" to Verizon, I'd take that with a large grain of salt. Verizon has said stuff is "exclusive" before but it turned out to only be timed exclusive. Most likely, this is only exclusive for a few weeks or a couple months. Remember the promotional posters that Sprint has ordered for the Galaxy Nexus? I doubt they did that to help convert people to Big Red.
TouchMyBox
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What's with all the hooplah about the Nexus One not getting ICS? Is anybody out there actually using a stock Nexus One?
Mine and every one I've seen out in the wild is running some custom rom or another. But yeah, google fucked up I guess by releasing a phone with an adreno 200 which is a completely useless piece of crap.
Or they could have, I don't know, released the S2 8 months ago...
Mine and every one I've seen out in the wild is running some custom rom or another. But yeah, google fucked up I guess by releasing a phone with an adreno 200 which is a completely useless piece of crap.
Vyse The Legend said:
Or they could have, I don't know, released the S2 8 months ago...
Vyse The Legend
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TouchMyBox said:
Blame Samsung.
In early 2011, the S2 was a juggernaut. Now, it's old tech. Verizon was smart to pass on it.
Unless someone comes out and says how long the exclusivity is for, it's all conjecture and speculation.
However, much like the S2, a few months can easily make a phone out-of-date, especially with 2012, CES and CTIA right around the corner.
TouchMyBox
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Vyse The Legend said:
I blame nobody, I am a superior Canadian and we get all the cool phones before you guys, apparently.
Divvy said:
How are you liking it? I remember there not appearing to be a huge difference when I first installed CM on mine, but since I've grown use to all of the little added features, I'm often shocked at some of the things stock android doesn't yet have.
Haven't had a chance to really get to use it yet but I'm looking forward to digging deeper.TouchMyBox said:I blame nobody, I am a superior Canadian and we get all the cool phones before you guys, apparently.
How are you liking it? I remember there not appearing to be a huge difference when I first installed CM on mine, but since I've grown use to all of the little added features, I'm often shocked at some of the things stock android doesn't yet have.
crazy monkey
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andycapps said:
"To answer the question posed in the headline: yes, a prototype Android device looked like a BlackBerry phone. However, at least one other prototype Android device from the same time frame did not (and it wouldn't surprise me if Google was testing Android on several more prototypes with different form factors). On top of that, the SDK from that exact same time frame also included support for large touch screens. In other words, the argument is invalid."
crazy monkey said:
I read the article. The contention among Apple users has been that Android OS looked like Blackberry until Google came along and stole all of Apple's ideas and transformed from a Blackberry type interface to a fully touch screen one. This shows that Google was prototyping mulitple ideas, including a fully touch screen OS that may have even included capacitive screens.
Has any Canadian retail store or carrier announced it yet? it's not up on Amazon.ca...TouchMyBox said:I blame nobody, I am a superior Canadian and we get all the cool phones before you guys, apparently.
You sure that evidence isn't from some alternate past? Sergey Brin looked like a teenager in the video 0_owalbertsmith said:
The Faceless Master
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impossibly thin with a big head... am i talking about the phone or the chick?jey_16 said:
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That is a terrible ad. Ugh, it almost makes me angry.
Vyse The Legend
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Greyface said:
Still waiting for that myself. Not a peep from anyone.
Could it be... a North American (timed) exclusive for Verizon?
The Broken Ska Record
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Can anyone recommend a good calendar app/widget? I don't like the default one since I can't setup bi-weekly reminders. That and any all-day events don't color the date with a different color, so it's hard to see at a glance.
GoldenEye 007
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Verizon? VERIZON? VERRRRIIIIZZZZZZZOOOONNNNN?!!?!?!?!!?!? FUCK YOUR MOTHER
How long is this supposed to last?
How long is this supposed to last?
The Broken Ska Record
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Thanks! I'll try it out here in a little bit.beje said:
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Android Fragmentation
The announcement that Nexus One users wont be getting upgraded to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich led some to justifiably question Googles support of their devices. I look at it a little differently: Nexus One owners are lucky. Ive been researching the history of OS updates on Android phones and Nexus One users have fared much, much better than most Android buyers.
I went back and found every Android phone shipped in the United States1 up through the middle of last year. I then tracked down every update that was released for each device - be it a major OS upgrade or a minor support patch - as well as prices and release & discontinuation dates. I compared these dates & versions to the currently shipping version of Android at the time. The resulting picture isnt pretty - well, not for Android users:
Other than the original G1 and MyTouch, virtually all of the millions of phones represented by this chart are still under contract today. If you thought that entitled you to some support, think again:
7 of the 18 Android phones never ran a current version of the OS.
12 of 18 only ran a current version of the OS for a matter of weeks or less.
10 of 18 were at least two major versions behind well within their two year contract period.
11 of 18 stopped getting any support updates less than a year after release.
13 of 18 stopped getting any support updates before they even stopped selling the device or very shortly thereafter.
15 of 18 dont run Gingerbread, which shipped in December 2010.
In a few weeks, when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out, every device on here will be another major version behind.
At least 16 of 18 will almost certainly never get Ice Cream Sandwich.
Also worth noting that each bar in the chart starts from the first day of release - so it only gets worse for people who bought their phone late in its sales period.
More Here!
The announcement that Nexus One users wont be getting upgraded to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich led some to justifiably question Googles support of their devices. I look at it a little differently: Nexus One owners are lucky. Ive been researching the history of OS updates on Android phones and Nexus One users have fared much, much better than most Android buyers.
I went back and found every Android phone shipped in the United States1 up through the middle of last year. I then tracked down every update that was released for each device - be it a major OS upgrade or a minor support patch - as well as prices and release & discontinuation dates. I compared these dates & versions to the currently shipping version of Android at the time. The resulting picture isnt pretty - well, not for Android users:
Other than the original G1 and MyTouch, virtually all of the millions of phones represented by this chart are still under contract today. If you thought that entitled you to some support, think again:
7 of the 18 Android phones never ran a current version of the OS.
12 of 18 only ran a current version of the OS for a matter of weeks or less.
10 of 18 were at least two major versions behind well within their two year contract period.
11 of 18 stopped getting any support updates less than a year after release.
13 of 18 stopped getting any support updates before they even stopped selling the device or very shortly thereafter.
15 of 18 dont run Gingerbread, which shipped in December 2010.
In a few weeks, when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out, every device on here will be another major version behind.
At least 16 of 18 will almost certainly never get Ice Cream Sandwich.
Also worth noting that each bar in the chart starts from the first day of release - so it only gets worse for people who bought their phone late in its sales period.
More Here!
what a lazy article.
Hey, i did all this work on devices available 18 months ago! And i get paid for this garbage!
I love all the failed phones on that list... brings back memories. Garminphone
other then the G1 and mytouch, virtually all of the millions of phones, besides everything in 2009, virtually all
Hey, i did all this work on devices available 18 months ago! And i get paid for this garbage!
I love all the failed phones on that list... brings back memories. Garminphone
other then the G1 and mytouch, virtually all of the millions of phones, besides everything in 2009, virtually all
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