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-Pyromaniac-
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That S4 screen is sharp as fuuuuck.
-Pyromaniac-
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thanks for the link. That black is MAD sexy. Definitely looks a lot better than the S3 on the front.
Nicktendo86
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Huh?
Unknown Soldier
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I expect 20 million S4 preorders worldwide. But good job on the several hundred thousand One preorders, HTC!
Looks indeed a lot better than the S3's blue tint. The sRGB option seems to be great as well. But that interface though, ugh.
-Pyromaniac-
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touchwiz does look pretty bad. It's like a mishmash of a couple different styles. Any time I see an android skin I almost cringe and put my finger on the order button for a nex4.
cuevas. PhD.
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If my phone could tell when my finger is headed towards the bottom and then the buttons show up itd be pretty sweet b
The Faceless Master
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the CM PIE controls are completely rewritten, not just a quick port, so they could in theory have handled that differently.
-Pyromaniac-
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GSMarena has their S4 battery testing up: http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-battery-tests-are-done-heres-how-it-did/
Considering it's really the major reason I'm considering it...not that happy about it, but not sure if turned off of it. Just wish all manufacturers would use 3000mah minimum.
Conclusion seems to be that overall, doing a variety of different tasks throughout the day, it actually is pretty good and beats out the One by plenty. But at certain specific tasks, it still struggles due to amoled and 1080p anc screen size. But yeah overall it looks pretty good. I want BETTTTERRRRR. Though I'm pretty sure I'd always say that
Considering it's really the major reason I'm considering it...not that happy about it, but not sure if turned off of it. Just wish all manufacturers would use 3000mah minimum.
Conclusion seems to be that overall, doing a variety of different tasks throughout the day, it actually is pretty good and beats out the One by plenty. But at certain specific tasks, it still struggles due to amoled and 1080p anc screen size. But yeah overall it looks pretty good. I want BETTTTERRRRR. Though I'm pretty sure I'd always say that
GSMarena has their S4 battery testing up: http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-battery-tests-are-done-heres-how-it-did/
Considering it's really the major reason I'm considering it...not that happy about it, but not sure if turned off of it. Just wish all manufacturers would use 3000mah minimum.
Conclusion seems to be that overall, doing a variety of different tasks throughout the day, it actually is pretty good and beats out the One by plenty. But at certain specific tasks, it still struggles due to amoled and 1080p anc screen size. But yeah overall it looks pretty good. I want BETTTTERRRRR. Though I'm pretty sure I'd always say that
So you'll be waiting till Q3/Q4 to buy a phone. Gotcha
GSMarena has their S4 battery testing up: http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-battery-tests-are-done-heres-how-it-did/
Considering it's really the major reason I'm considering it...not that happy about it, but not sure if turned off of it. Just wish all manufacturers would use 3000mah minimum.
Conclusion seems to be that overall, doing a variety of different tasks throughout the day, it actually is pretty good and beats out the One by plenty. But at certain specific tasks, it still struggles due to amoled and 1080p anc screen size. But yeah overall it looks pretty good. I want BETTTTERRRRR. Though I'm pretty sure I'd always say that
wait for KLP, if they redo the OS into Holo Light its going to be SCREWED.
-Pyromaniac-
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hellls no, I aint waiting.
As soon as the S4 is out I'm using my upgrade on it no matter what. Only question is will I use it for a while or sell it and get a nexus 4 or something until the nexus 5 comes out. Seems like a waste of money though. I'm probably going to get the S4, use it until october then sell it for a high price and get the nexus 5.
And if pctx were here, he'd say x phone. And he wouldn't be wrong really, if it's motorola you know it's going to rock a big battery. But pricing and all that, including availability on play store would have to be a must. Too many question marks to bank on that.
GSMarena has their S4 battery testing up: http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-battery-tests-are-done-heres-how-it-did/
Considering it's really the major reason I'm considering it...not that happy about it, but not sure if turned off of it. Just wish all manufacturers would use 3000mah minimum.
Conclusion seems to be that overall, doing a variety of different tasks throughout the day, it actually is pretty good and beats out the One by plenty. But at certain specific tasks, it still struggles due to amoled and 1080p anc screen size. But yeah overall it looks pretty good. I want BETTTTERRRRR. Though I'm pretty sure I'd always say that
That header image got a good chuckle out of me, heh. Also:
But seems pretty alright for what it is. And if you're gonna keep waiting for better, then you're going to wait for a long time.
-Pyromaniac-
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To be clear, the only reason I was even willing to put up with samsung/touchwiz at all was the promise of better battery life. I'm not saying it's big battery or bust. I'm saying, if it doesn't have THAT great battery, then why put up with it. I'll just get something else (that being the ZL or the Nex4). But I don't know. Will wait for more reviews until I decide if I will keep it or sell it and get something else.
feel me.
Nicktendo86
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Pretty much my plan, upgrade for free to an s4 in august but sell it right away, buy a n4, sell that in October and get a n5.
SirMossyBloke
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GSMarena has their S4 battery testing up: http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-battery-tests-are-done-heres-how-it-did/
Considering it's really the major reason I'm considering it...not that happy about it, but not sure if turned off of it. Just wish all manufacturers would use 3000mah minimum.
Conclusion seems to be that overall, doing a variety of different tasks throughout the day, it actually is pretty good and beats out the One by plenty. But at certain specific tasks, it still struggles due to amoled and 1080p anc screen size. But yeah overall it looks pretty good. I want BETTTTERRRRR. Though I'm pretty sure I'd always say that
Beats out the One by plenty? According to those graphs they're almost neck and neck and in one case the One is ahead by miles. Only the overall endurance rating is higher.
I'm still not 100% sure why people would choose the S4 over the One. The screen isn't quite as good, only bigger, the design is awful, touchwiz is awful, the camera is better only in brightly lit settings, it's not faster, and if its anything like the S3, it'll fall apart in no time.
Only thing going for it are a bunch of "smart" features that you'll probably never use much anyway.
-Pyromaniac-
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high fiveeeee. It's not even a terrible plan. Make a decent profit overall, get a decent phone, then when the nexus 5 comes out you can get that and rejoice.
like I said, not that happy about it regardless. Besides, most of what I do is web browse/occasional video, where it actually struggles according to that test. The endurance rating is probably that high because of good standby time compared to the One. I still would never consider the One though. I'd take the S4 before it any time.
most reviews i've seen have the camera better in darker settings.
Its endurance rating is almost halved... which is down to Sense still being more awful then touchwiz (most likely due to their god awful friend stream replacement idea). So you get a pretty phone, with a non removable battery, that doesn't last as long, with a worse camera.
I feel ya.
There are certainly better options if you're looking from a strictly battery perspective. Your plan seems sound. Also the N4 can have decent enough battery. A day at minimum.
-Pyromaniac-
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and no matter what I get, I'll only be using it for a few months until the nex5 comes out, lol.
Obvious wild card in all this is the x phone BS, have to see where that goes. Everything should leak within april though so I guess I'll know what I'm going to do before I even have a chance to use my upgrade on the S4.
SirMossyBloke
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I haven't seen a single review stating that the S4 has better low light. The One even beats the 920 for low light. Sense is certainly better than Touchwiz, which is the worst UI I've seen on an Android, but still need to be close to what Sony is doing. As far as the endurance, I guess I just don't understand it fully. If the S4 only beats the One by 20 mins in most cases and loses in one, why the big difference?
Either way, from what we've seen, it's a great battery.
Still not seeing it.
The Faceless Master
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GSMarena has their S4 battery testing up: http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-battery-tests-are-done-heres-how-it-did/
Considering it's really the major reason I'm considering it...not that happy about it, but not sure if turned off of it. Just wish all manufacturers would use 3000mah minimum.
Conclusion seems to be that overall, doing a variety of different tasks throughout the day, it actually is pretty good and beats out the One by plenty. But at certain specific tasks, it still struggles due to amoled and 1080p anc screen size. But yeah overall it looks pretty good. I want BETTTTERRRRR. Though I'm pretty sure I'd always say that
you know what... i don't even know how to respond to that...
But then, why not keep the S4 until the N5 is released?
The whole X phone thing is a farce. It's gonna be shit and we all know it.
-Pyromaniac-
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well yeah that's my other option. That's my money saving option. Use the S4 until October. It's what I'm leaning towards currently.
and faceless most of what I do is browse the web on my commute, and that's where it still struggles. Endurance rating is likely that high because the standby time is great.
Would be a good way to get some mileage out of what will undoubtedly be a good piece of hardware, Touchwiz or not. I'd love to try it out, might coerce my dad into getting one since he's been aching for an upgrade lately.
standby time, which i wouldn't doubt is partially due to their constant refreshing, non-disableable Blink Feed (also due to the smaller battery, as it fares similar to a higher capacity battery and AMOLED screen while on, but loses once the screen goes off).
Touchwiz is ugly, Sense is ugly, Its still a lose lose proposition in comparison. Sense is slowly coming out of the non hideous stage. The screen is beautiful
The Faceless Master
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-Pyromaniac-
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yeah that shit is garbage too. But that was before the battery improvements in 4.1.2 or 4.2.2 whenever that was. Which were notable improvements. They should have redone it, I'd be curious to see the difference.HOL DAT
Like I said though, leaning on skipping the 4 for the 5 and just using the S4 until then.
The Faceless Master
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notable as in doubling the performance from 'garbage' to 'struggling' like the S4?
-Pyromaniac-
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HENCE why I still plan on skipping the nex4 for the 5, lol. Barring x phone though. I don't think it will live up to any hype, but I know it will have a great battery. So we'll see.
opportunity cost... not having to look at touchwiz is worth and hour here and there.
-Pyromaniac-
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hahaa yeah that's what I was saying above.
The Faceless Master
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or just use a custom ROM
I think if you can get at least a full day's worth out of a charge on a phone, then it's done its job, considering most people charge their device overnight anyway. That's not to say I find battery lives to be particularly good on today's phones, but we're noticing a trend here with the ever-improving full charge cycles on newer phones. By the end of this year we'll probably have the bare minimum up from a full day to two days.
At least I hope so.
At least I hope so.
-Pyromaniac-
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yuppp, it was either that or 4.2.2.
thats a lot of work for a temporary phone
4.2.2. made the battery changes across the board
-Pyromaniac-
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potentially. Can never be sure how sony's skin will affect it, but nexus 4s all noticed good battery bumps, so the potential is there for better battery across all phones that get it. I think ZL ships with 4.1.2 anyway. It's 4.2.2 that had the battery upgrade, now that I google'd it.
The Faceless Master
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not a lot of work on a Samsung.
-Pyromaniac-
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Even though I think that will be the minimum, around there, they should aim higher. Google has access to motorola! Get that razr maxx battery up in there.
I'm glad they said their focuses going forward are battery, build, and camera. So that inspires some hope that they plan on rectifying all their shortcomings. A nexus phone with no real weakness would truly be the ultimate smartphone.
"fall apart in no time".. Really? Sounds more like an HTC phone to me from my experience..
Had my S3 for almost a year now, no case and its not falling apart.
Aluminum is so damn overrated.. and Sense is arguably shittier than Touchwiz.
OriginalThinking
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I agree, Samsung phones don't fall apart. I might hammer them for material choice, but that has nothing to do with durability. But then neither do HTC phones. In this day and age unless you are using your phone as a weapon it's not going to come apart in your hands. The most common issues are cracked screens, water damage and scuffs/nicks to which no phone is impervious. Aluminum isn't over rated at all. like any material, when it's used right it can really be wonderful. Like plastic. See the One X or Lumia 800. And Sense/Touchwiz - It's like choosing between a douche and a turd.
Yo man, it's good, but not great.
I'm waiting for the days when I can get through a full day with only 20% used. Oh, what a glorious future that is.
OriginalThinking
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You can do that with an N4 now. Put it in airplane mode and don't use it at all. Insane battery life.
Yeah, yeah I'm not being serious
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