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Angry Video Game Nerd
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PepsimanVsJoe
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Milon's Secret Castle blows(bubbles? no it just blows). Just had to say it.
Wish I had a computer with sound so I could watch these latest videos. =(
Wish I had a computer with sound so I could watch these latest videos. =(
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Shard said:
Yeah, but Starfox was a Super FX chip game, it may have proven his point, that you could see similar graphics on the 16 bit consoles, but it's kind of unfairly when comparing the bits and hardware processing power of both consoles.
Anyway, it wasn't a big deal either.I'm looking forward to part 2.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
A lot of the Jag's games were quickie Amiga ports since the Jag has a 6800 in that mess of a chipset. Stuff like Super Burnout at least ran at 60fps tho.Jiggy said:
Showing Iron Soldier while talking about how poor the graphics were is the major point that bugged me. Yes, they were flat-shaded, but still... The SNES, and the 3DO had nothing that could match that.
nincompoop
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Zombie James
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t3nmilez said:
It'd be a shame if you didn't mention that toilet attachment.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
:lol You mean like Dirt Racer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_v15IXZcHwnincompoop said:
The game looks like trash compared to Iron Soldier.
3D0 has one game = Pumping?
A Black Falcon
Member
Zool 2 instead of Rayman or something is a questionable choice (Zool 2 is a DOS/Amiga port, so of course it's 16-bit style, while Rayman was a Jaguar original, and limited-time exclusive...), and Checkered Flag might have been better compared to Genesis Virtua Racing, 32X Virtua Racing Deluxe, or SNES (Super FX) Stunt Race FX, rather than Mode 7 F-Zero, but overall, pretty good. I mean, F-Zero clearly has better gameplay, graphics, and style than Checkered Flag, but wouldn't it be more fair to compare it to competing polyagonal racing games?
As for Star Fox vs. Cybermorph, Star Fox does clearly win on music (Cybermorph has none ingame...) and artistic design, but its abysmal framerate hurts it a lot, and he didn't mention that. Cybermorph's looks a bit higher, though it does also have a terribly close draw distance, and it's free-roaming instead of a rail shooter, so the gameplay is different. Haven't played it so I can't say how good it is... Star Fox is likely the better game, though, sure. But unless your cart's overclocked or you're playing it emulated, that awful framerate is brutal, like all polygonal 3d Super FX games.
Overall though, nice summation of Atari history, and a great leadin for the next video... definitely looking forward to it.
nincompoop said:
Could Jaguar do this, for example?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXytmFQHns
The Playstation, Saturn, and DOS PC couldn't, evidently, given that on all of those platforms the game has pea-soup fog blocking off your vision at about the point where on the 3DO it just drops the terrain detail... 3DO didn't do a good job of porting the game, sadly. I remember loving the PC version (despite the frustrating controls that take some time to get used to), but seeing that makes me want a 3DO... But anyway, I don't think Battlemorph, Iron Soldier, I-War, or the others can match that. Based on videos Battlemorph looks okay, but not quite that good, and with mostly just flat-shaded polygons thanks to hardware limitations.
Of course the 3DO did have the worst version of Doom thanks to an amazingly terrible framerate, so it wasn't all good.
(On that note, SNES Doom was surprisingly good, and is really fun... framerate's a bit slow, but it's playable. Great soundtrack, only pre-Xbox console version with the actual unaltered PC level designs, good gameplay, world map...)
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8_ELT1YPvIA Black Falcon said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crUHUSlYiiU&feature=related
Yep.
TOAO_Cyrus
Member
morningbus said:
Bits where only important in the old days because of color, once you hit 32 you can have millions of colors so its no longer an issue.
If you go by how much data a CPU can process per clock things get pretty confusing. For instance each of the 3 xenon cores has an 128 bit SIMD just like the SPE's on the PS3, but the general purpose registers are 64 bit. 32 bit x86 CPU's had 80 bit ALU's and 128 bit SIMD's for SSE instructions along with 32 bit GP registers. The bit rating of CPU's is based on the address bus width which dictates how much memory it supports, which is 64 bit for both the Cell and Xenon, the internal processing units are all different sizes.
A Black Falcon
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Freshmaker said:
Destructible buildings, actual textures, both like Star Fighter, and at least as good looking... very nice.
Still, I bet you can't dig holes through the mountains just by shooting at them, like you can in Star Fighter... I always loved doing that. All terrain can be leveled down to base ground level. The only thing missing is the ability to dig holes into the ground with your shots...
But anyway, for the Jaguar that looks great. I've always heard good things about Battlesphere too, of course... but the 3DO just has so many more games, it's not really a fair comparison. It also didn't have poorly documented, very complex hardware like the Jaguar had, either, I believe... that sure didn't help the few developers that did work on the system maximize its graphical potential. I don't know which system is the more powerful, overall. But there's definitely more games that push the 3DO than the Jaguar... or the 32X, which has a lot of the same problems (complex hardware, very few games...).
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Wasn't that some weird sprite deformation trick?A Black Falcon said:Destructible buildings, actual textures, both like Star Fighter, and at least as good looking... very nice.
Still, I bet you can't dig holes through the mountains just by shooting at them, like you can in Star Fighter... I always loved doing that. All terrain can be leveled down to base ground level. The only thing missing is the ability to dig holes into the ground with your shots...
A Black Falcon
Member
nincompoop said:
Darxide is also very impressive, graphically. The gameplay is somewhat unexciting (it's 3d Asteroids, no more, no less), but the graphics are great. The few videos on Youtube I can find all have people talking over them... bah. Those are two of the best-looking 3d games the system has, though, certainly. Even so, I wouldn't pick them over the better Jaguar or 3DO ones, graphically, I'd say.
If you could destroy the buildings in Metal Head I'd reconsider...
It and Darxide certainly are two of the only 32X games with textured polygons, which is impressive for the hardware for sure.I guess watch this one for Darxide, but ignore the audio... the guy's clueless (he thinks it's a core-system Genesis game?).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CrXUqaMZAU
Freshmaker said:
What, the ground in Star Fighter? However they did it, it looked really, really cool... when you shoot at hills, it presses them down, 'cutting away' at the part you shot at... but yeah, likely actually done with polygon deformation. It looked awesome. So few games have anything like that... I mean, being able to destroy all the buildings in each level, okay, that's nice enough, and the explosions look pretty nice, too... but being able to flatten the hills as well, if you want? Awesome!
Longer video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLXK8xubtic
The player shoots their way through a mountain at about 3:40.
Oh, for comparison, here's the Saturn version...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJYLjHgelPI
Ouch. The PC version has MUCH better graphics, but the fog's just as bad.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Yeah, I played the Saturn version. Ghen War had that too. Seemed like a limited gimmick. (Meaning I can't remember it actually having a point in terms of how the games played, mission objectives etc...) Looked kinda cool, but the novelty wore thin fast.A Black Falcon said:What, the ground in Star Fighter? However they did it, it looked really, really cool... when you shoot at hills, it presses them down, 'cutting away' at the part you shot at... but yeah, likely actually done with polygon deformation. It looked awesome. So few games have anything like that... I mean, being able to destroy all the buildings in each level, okay, that's nice enough, and the explosions look pretty nice, too... but being able to flatten the hills as well, if you want? Awesome!
MirageDwarf
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A Black Falcon
Member
Frenck said:
Wasn't it great?
Here's a video of the PSX version...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0EFwkKdQo4
Doesn't look that much better than that Saturn video. It is a pretty low-quality video, though, so that may not be representative of the actual game... and the fog's identical, just like the PC and Saturn versions. The lack of fog, and the low-detail distance terrain that it has instead, is really what distinguishes the 3DO version, clearly.
Oh yeah, and Star Fighter's soundtrack is fantastic...
Freshmaker said:
Ghen War has that, really? Cool, I didn't know that! The game was already on my 'get sometime' list for Saturn now that I have a Mission Stick, which I know it supports, but that makes me want it even more...
You're right that it may not matter all that much, gameplay-wise, but somehow I always thought it was pretty cool anyway, and a fun feature to have. And there just aren't many games with it...
You can destroy all the buildings and stuff in some games, like Mercenaries and Mercenaries 2, BattleTanx and BattleTanx 2, etc, but terrain as well? Aside from these and Red Faction... not counting map editors, there are a few others out there, like the terrain-modification abilities in SimCity 2000 and beyond and things like that, or Populous and Magic Carpet, but it's a far less common feature than it should be, really.
I love this one because of all the Ghostbusters toys he show off at the start that bring back so many memories. My niece recently got into the films and now has a lot of these exact toys I used to have after hunting them all down on Ebay for her (I kept one or two of the spares amongst them). So awesome.MirageDwarf said:
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drakesfortune
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:lol Good episode. It's a bummer he couldn't get the cd add on to work. Hopefully someone sends him one.
A Black Falcon
Member
drakesfortune said:
Or could fix either of those two broken ones... those things ARE very rare and expensive. And both the Jaguar and Jag CD don't have the best reliability record... they were cheaply made (note the lack of cart door, open back connections, etc) and are known to fail. Add a CD drive full of moving parts to that and it's no surprise that a lot of them don't work. Try asking at Atari-Age or something, likely a good place to start.
Anyway, pretty good episode... but too bad about the Jag CDs, hopefully something can be done.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Damn this episode sucked. He's really losing his touch and overall effort.
Christ never knew that the 3DO was that powerful.
A Black Falcon said:
Christ never knew that the 3DO was that powerful.
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maniac-kun
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realy cool review of the jag! to bad he couldnt get the cd addon to work :lol
the games he reviewed all sucked tho :lol
the games he reviewed all sucked tho :lol
Lé Blade Runner
Member
I don't think he has lost his edge at all. I'm still very entertained by these videos. Good job, nerd.
Azure Dream
Member
It felt like he should've gone over a few more games, instead of shooting at things with various light guns (which was funny, but went on a little long), then having his cat chase a laser pointer for half a minute. Obviously he couldn't touch the CD side, but he made it clear he still had a stack of cartridge games.