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Another 30 old teacher and 15yr old student but this time with a twist
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thecouncil
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sentenced to one year for every year that kid was alive.
Exactly. Most people would throw away the key. Teenagers are too dumb to know they're being taken advantage of, and people in positions of power don't get to abuse it.
hodayathink
Member
The twist isn't that she's attractive. It's that she has the support of the kid's family.
Edit: Nevermind, read it wrong and it was her family, not his.
Oh absolutely, and that's appalling. I've seen charges of manslaughter that are way less than 15, and out in the same or less time, even if she makes parole first go.
No? Why does gender of the offender make a difference?
The original sentence was life, mind you. 15 is being "merciful", and it looks like at least 5.5 years before parole.
For a first offence? I wouldn't.
John Kowalski
Banned
sentenced to one year for every year that kid was alive.
dang my mother has glasses just like those
she was afraid they weren't fashionabluh i have to show her that photo
She doesn't. And it was only insinuated that the victim's friends supported her because of her appearance.
It kind of seemed that way if she was honest about "this is what we used to do", but maybe that was just to make the kid think what was going on was OK.
CassidyIzABeast
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So the friends are putting in their bids to get with her after she gets out by consoling her? Why the hell else would they do it?
I'd love to have a discussion on the difference between statutory rape and non-statutory rape, and how the trivialization of either is a different matter, but I really fear it would be flying far too close to the sun, if not for me then for plenty of other users.
All I'll say is that the idea that a 15 year old boy cannot under any circumstance consent to sex with an adult is a legal fiction. A good one in many ways, one designed to protect juveniles and children, but not one that has any basis in the actual mind or mental state of a 15 year old boy. (Remember that the idea put forward is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a hypothetical boy to consent, not that this specific boy consented.)
We had a huge debate regarding statutory rape and strict liability back in 2006-2008 here in Ireland. It convinced me that most people are completely incapable of being rational about the subject. I don't blame them, it's an emotionally charged thing. When children are hurt I lose my damn mind as well. But it's no way to run the justice system or legislature.
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Of course it's not. Not even close.
Is this really a bannable offence? All he said was that she is hot, which she is. Doesnt mean hes condoning paedophilia. Am i missing something here?
eso76
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I think sometimes double standards are justified, but i'm not going there.
15 years still seems a bit much. Yes, she did something heinously wrong, but I don't think it'll take 15 years to reform her. I think losing her job and the ability to ever have that job, ruining most of her life and going to prison for a few years would do that. 15 just means she'll probably never be a contributing member of society, and we all get to pay for her for even longer.
terrisus
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Where did you read that?
Corronchilejano
Member
Life in prison was a ridiculous sentence. 15 years is higher than what you could get for manslaughter.
DonasaurusRex
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i feel bad for everyone involved..damn but especially the kid and the husband...damn
metalmonstar
Member
What were the charges? Sounds like to me she got slammed with a number of different charges which is likely what caused the long sentence.
No it's not. There are plenty of countries where the age of consent is 15. Here, it's 16. This modern cultural trend of making teenagers into some innocent fragile children that need protection is getting annoying.
Ninja Scooter
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Sounds like she made the Ronk choice
entremet
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Commenting on looks alone may trivialize rape. That's the issue.
terrisus
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Just because "you dreamed of it" doesn't mean that everyone does, and doesn't make it not illegal.
killdatninja
Banned
This. If there is an age where thinking with your dick is at its worst, it's the teenage years. Couple that with a horny teacher, it's a recipe for disaster for both sides of the fence.
15 years is way too much... unless she was forcing him to do so (which I find very hard to believe)...
at 15 they know what they want, well at least I did.
In most of the US even if he was 18, because he was a student and she was a teacher it would still constitute a crime.
That's an aspect of these cases that gets overlooked sometimes; it isn't all about age. It's about positions of power.
And in most of the US the age of consent is 16 as well.
The issue though is that even if he knew what he was doing and consented, she abused her power to take advantage of it. Does that mean she shouldn't have any legal consequence behind losing her job is the question.
It's still a crime because of that, but life is absurd.
I'm sure she won't do the full 15, but I'm not against harsher penalties for this. She's a pedophile as far as I'm concerned.
terrisus
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Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
As a teacher there was a power imbalance between them. Even if he was 18, she would still be in trouble because it's an abuse of power.
"God's Beard!"
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Still nope. Holy shit. 15 years is a long goddamn time.
entremet
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Depends on the state. Teachers have been fired and charged with sleeping with students past the age of consent.
For Michigan, the age of consent is higher.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Lots of things I dreamed of when I was a teenager were certainly not legal, to be honest, hahaha.
ohhthegore
Member
I don't get it either
I don't get why people get hung up on this teacher student power abuse to such an extent, while they are perfectly fine with their local politicians literally shitting on them. I don't want to discuss my subjective opinions in a nuanced matter, but i do believe that people are focusing on the wrong side of power abuse when it comes to these issues in relative to every other scenario of power abuse.
sure, its illegal, but you'd be crazy to think that this isn't something generally any 15 year old boy wouldn't jump at.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I dont understand why things like this happen.
Fuck, 5 1/2 years minimum seems kind of harsh for what was essentially consensual sex with another sexually mature person. I know it's technically statutory, but it is odd that 18 is some hard limit of when a person is actually in the right mind to make any sort of decision.
And WTF at a possibly life sentence.
And WTF at a possibly life sentence.
HoodWinked
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why do people always run to this argument there are blatant differences between males and females. theres a reason why people will instinctively have very different first impressions between the two scenarios.
Sho_Nuff82
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Personally I think that the law should do a better job of differentiating between statutory sex and statutory rape.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Only because society tells them they should be having sex and they are somehow lesser or not "man enough" if they don't.
Men and women are only different because of society. There is no "male brain" or "female brain". Rape is rape. There are no qualifications.
terrisus
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The fact that (some) 15-year-old boys would jump at it is part of the reason why there are laws stopping 30-year-old teachers from reciprocating.
ThatStupidLion
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jesus. i feel bad for her. a woman like her deserves to be in the school system.
So what are the blatant differences? Both would use their authority to seduce a teenager they should be teaching. Both would have broken the law. If you on about a guy having a penis and a female not, even that doesn't matter now thanx to viagra etc. In cases like this be the abuser be male or female they should be treated the same. Rape or sexual abuse shouldn't be treated depending on the gender.
There used to be a kind of unofficial competition when threads like this surfaced. People would post some variation of the south park nice.jpg and try to crack up other GAFfers. When you think about it, you're basically congratulating the kid on being sexually abused because the perpetrator was attractive. There's been a crackdown on that recently, so posts that don't add anything to the discussion except how hot she was aren't really permissible anymore.
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