Ant-Man |OT| Is It Too Late To Change The Name?

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That Variety review is pretty spoilerly for some stuff-but it makes the movie sound great. Very "Spielbergian" I believe was the term they used.
 
Comingsoon's review listed a negative for them that's a positive for me:

There’s also a great face-off with another Marvel character that’s a lot of fun, but overall the movie just isn’t nearly as exciting or entertaining as some of the other Marvel movies, maybe because it never seems like the stakes are particularly high.
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Considering a high percentage of Marvel movies are EARTH SHATTERING END OF EVERYTHING stakes, I find smaller stakes refreshing.
 
Verdict from Verge:

Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy are proofs of concept, in a strange way — existing far enough away from the main cinematic storyline that they could easily be abandoned as one-offs if they failed. But in their offbeat success, they’re showing Marvel a new way forward, one in which they lean into the ridiculous and embrace the fun......

Ant-Man may be proof that we’ve finally outgrown the era in which directors default to the gritty superhero trope. Comic book films have proven themselves as a genre-straddling and often inventive form, so much so that we can comfortably put the fears of Adam West and George Clooney behind us to embrace everything they have to offer — even the goofiness.

Comic book movies that are fun. Who’d have thought?
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That Vanity Fair is reveling in it's snarkiness and keeps harping on the fact that Wright COULD have made this, as opposed to simply reviewing the film in it's own right.
 
ET Online

http://m.etonline.com/news/167577_review_ant_man_is_marvel_weirdest_movie_yet/


That's just the tip of the iceberg. This feels weirder than Guardians, because Guardians was always supposed to be weird. That's an epic space opera with a talking raccoon who shoots a rocket launcher and a dancing tree. This is set on Earth with real people, but you still fall in love with an ant named Antony. Like, actually care about what happens to him, even when he's all but indistinguishable from the millions of other CGI ants around him.
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(Semi spoilery)

And then the movie goes subatomic. Fans of the Ant-Man comics will already be familiar with the Quantum Realm, but even the most die-hard likely never expected to see it materialize onscreen. (Marvel head honcho Kevin Feige has previously said it pays homage to the Disneyland attraction Adventures Through Inner Space, and boy does it.) It's baffling. Baffling in so much as you're completely invested and having the ride of your life, but you still can't help thinking, "This got so much weirder than I expected."
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E the Shaggy said:
Comingsoon's review listed a negative for them that's a positive for me:



Considering a high percentage of Marvel movies are EARTH SHATTERING END OF EVERYTHING stakes, I find smaller stakes refreshing.
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Yeah..thats the thing..most everyone is praising how they love that the stakes are much smaller..making the film more likable to folks.
 
Crow eating in the Verge article:
Ant-Man has been cloaked in a haze of preordained failure, and I fully expected it to follow Ultron as Marvel’s second confused disappointment of the year.

I love it when I’m wrong.
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I keep seeing reviews saying how this is the "riskiest Marvel movie".

Man, NOBODY knew who the Guardians of the Galaxy were before their movie. A tree and a talking raccoon? Sheeeiitttt.
 
E the Shaggy said:
I keep seeing reviews saying how this is the "riskiest Marvel movie".

Man, NOBODY knew who the Guardians of the Galaxy were before their movie. A tree and a talking raccoon? Sheeeiitttt.
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The thing is though, that movie was COMPLETELY wacky and they used that to sell tickets. There was also a huge kid appeal with Groot and Rocket.

Ant Man is riskier in a way in the fact it's all on Earth and just regular people but you've got...ant stuff. Its weirder within the context of its own world if that makes sense
 
E the Shaggy said:
I keep seeing reviews saying how this is the "riskiest Marvel movie".

Man, NOBODY knew who the Guardians of the Galaxy were before their movie. A tree and a talking raccoon? Sheeeiitttt.
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But it was steeped in the fantastic which is what moviegoers want. Marvel sold it as a fun romp through space. Knowledge of the characters doesn't matter. Ant-Man is set on earth and the trailers did a really bad job of showing the audiences why this is different than other superhero films. Reviewers are mentioning how this is a family movie yet none of the trailers make it seem so. Shit, was Scott's daughter even in the trailers?
 
E the Shaggy said:
I keep seeing reviews saying how this is the "riskiest Marvel movie".

Man, NOBODY knew who the Guardians of the Galaxy were before their movie. A tree and a talking raccoon? Sheeeiitttt.
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Again, Groot and Rocket weren't that risky. The concept of the talking raccoon and tree were novel, yes, but the roles they played were basically the same as Han Solo and Chewie and they knew that worked. Also, Rocket and Groot were 100% certain to be a hit amongst kids.
 
TheKaeptain said:
But it was steeped in the fantastic which is what moviegoers want. Marvel sold it as a fun romp through space. Knowledge of the characters doesn't matter. Ant-Man is set on earth and the trailers did a really bad job of showing the audiences why this is different than other superhero films. Reviewers are mentioning how this is a family movie yet none of the trailers make it seem so. Shit, was Scott's daughter even in the trailers?
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His daughter and family were pretty much the entire focus of the first teaser
 
CloudWolf said:
Again, Groot and Rocket weren't that risky. The concept of the talking raccoon and tree were novel, yes, but the roles they played were basically the same as Han Solo and Chewie and they knew that worked. Also, Rocket and Groot were 100% certain to be a hit amongst kids.
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Hindsight is 20/20. Before GotG came out, people were worried that Rocket & Groot would ruin the movie.
 
I'm happy this sounds/appears to be good for Peyton's sake.

the genuine weirdness aspect and small stakes are incredibly inviting descriptions
 
Punto said:
For those who have seen it. Would you say it was better than Avengers 2 or worse?
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I found it to be much better. There's a better vision to the director, more humor and far more intriguing action scenes. It's a little bland and forgettable in the end, but the ride is really fun.
 
bananafactory said:
RT is up

Currently at 86% (9 positive 2 negative)

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/antman/
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Woooo!
 
E the Shaggy said:
I keep seeing reviews saying how this is the "riskiest Marvel movie".

Man, NOBODY knew who the Guardians of the Galaxy were before their movie. A tree and a talking raccoon? Sheeeiitttt.
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What makes you think people know who Ant-Man is?

Aside from being about as unknown as GoTG (maybe more) it also sounds weird and not that appealing.
 
Neoxon said:
Hindsight is 20/20. Before GotG came out, people were worried that Rocket & Groot would ruin the movie.
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The only people I saw push the risky narrative were Marvel fans and sites like BAD. Others pointed out that shit like Star Wars exist. No one expected it to make money at first because the first trailers were shit. Then Marvel started marketing it better.
 
From the sounds of it, this seems like a very back-to-basics comic book movie after most recent Marvel affairs have been caught up in a grander scheme of things.
 
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