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Oh no doubt, his ground game can be atrocious against campers and he's got no ways to launch characters like Villager or DHD to get his Levin aerials going.

Robin just seems to have a ton of bad match-ups, and I think a lot of that comes from his ground speed being so poor. He's otherwise built like a solid, good character but he just can't move well.



I don't doubt that Sheik is all around better but Arcfire blocks her needles and her approaches entirely. She also depends a lot on her aerials which is where the Levin shines and bair comes out super fast for him.

Bouncing Fish > Arcfire, she doesn't need to depend on her aerials as much if she can just bouncing fish or quickly grab/ftilt/dtilt Robin for free since he's so slow.

I personally think Robin's around mid tier, and it's mostly due to the bad movement + matchups. He shines with players who make good reads to do damaging Levin Sword strings.
 
Bouncing Fish > Arcfire, she doesn't need to depend on her aerials as much if she can just bouncing fish or quickly grab/ftilt/dtilt Robin for free since he's so slow.

I personally think Robin's around mid tier, and it's mostly due to the bad movement + matchups. He shines with players who make good reads to do damaging Levin Sword strings.

Oh good call, I totally forgot about Bouncing Fish just popping over Arcfire.
 
Oh no doubt, his ground game can be atrocious against campers and he's got no ways to launch characters like Villager or DHD to get his Levin aerials going.

Robin just seems to have a ton of bad match-ups, and I think a lot of that comes from his ground speed being so poor. He's otherwise built like a solid, good character but he just can't move well.



I don't doubt that Sheik is all around better but Arcfire blocks her needles and her approaches entirely. She also depends a lot on her aerials which is where the Levin shines and bair comes out super fast for him.

That sucks cause watching a good robin is very fun to watch, ton of his/her attacks are setups to larger stronger attacks that can be launched from a distance and can catch opponents offguard.
 
Melee is such a fuck-up-once-and-out game, so hype to watch finals of this game.

I kinda don't like that about it, my only complaint honestly.

Anyways S2J vs. PPMD is so hype. Sad PP got rid of his Marth.

Same. It's one of the things since Smash 4 I've come to dislike even just from a watching point of view. I like to see a back and forth and if it's to easy for one side to dominate it's not fun. If players are equal then you could have that back and forth I guess but don't like blow outs.
 
Same. It's one of the things since Smash 4 I've come to dislike even just from a watching point of view. I like to see a back and forth and if it's to easy for one side to dominate it's not fun.

There is back and forth in Melee, it's a different kind though.
 
Enjoying the Europe vs Japan Smash 4 doubles.

I've watched Nietono and Choco on Japanese streams a lot so seeing them do well here is really cool.
 
RAISE YOUR PIKACHUS GUYS!

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N64 steam has like 250 viewers right now, does anyone actually know it's happening?

The reason why is because it was originally going to be on teamsp00ky but Smash 4 doubles is going MEGA overtime. So yes, no one knows it's on that channel now instead. It's a last-minute-stream.
 
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