APEX 2015 | Fighting Game Tournament | Jan 30-Feb 1

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Slow move speed, and bad grab. So yes. :P
You have absolutely no idea how depressing I find that reality. High level Robin play is bar none the most exhilarating thing to see in Smash 4 (IMO, of course) and seeing it so rare now really bums me out.

Not that I'd be able to see it if there were any today. Stranded at work. :(
 
You have absolutely no idea how depressing I find that reality. High level Robin play is bar none the most exhilarating thing to see in Smash 4 (IMO, of course) and seeing it so rare now really bums me out.

Not that I'd be able to see it if there were any today. Stranded at work. :(

Robin would be better with customs on I feel, speed thunder helps, and Thunder+ is great as well...Thoron+ is great for punishing, Fire Wall instead of Arcfire creates a nice defensive wall against speedy characters too.
 
I hope so. He's my favorite Melee smasher to watch.

My stream hung for a bit in game two when Axe was up, his two stocks to SFAT's one, then when the stream came back, SFAT won. What happened in that game?

SFAT smartly ran away and shot lasers to build up %. Axe couldn't catch him.
 
Robin would be better with customs on I feel, speed thunder helps, and Thunder+ is great as well...Thoron+ is great for punishing, Fire Wall instead of Arcfire creates a nice defensive wall against speedy characters too.

If there's one thing I want from future patches, it would be an easy way to customize your fighter right from the character select screen. Kind of like imputing your nametag, just select your character and enter that you want a 1231 custom moveset or whatever. Then we might actually see custom moves in tournaments. Its the biggest change made in Smash 4 and no one's using it.
 
If there's one thing I want from future patches, it would be an easy way to customize your fighter right from the character select screen. Kind of like imputing your nametag, just select your character and enter that you want a 1231 custom moveset or whatever. Then we might actually see custom moves in tournaments. Its the biggest change made in Smash 4 and no one's using it.

That's not why it's not used... it's because of the nightmarish amount of time you spend unlocking them that makes them a logistical problem.
 
I hope so. He's my favorite Melee smasher to watch.

My stream hung for a bit in game two when Axe was up, his two stocks to SFAT's one, then when the stream came back, SFAT won. What happened in that game?

Axe went too deep and got ledgeguarded at the last stock.
 
I hope so. He's my favorite Melee smasher to watch.

My stream hung for a bit in game two when Axe was up, his two stocks to SFAT's one, then when the stream came back, SFAT won. What happened in that game?
SFAT ran and shot lasers and near the end Axe went to down smash him off stage, missed, and SFAT was able to stay up longer to win. It sucked because Axe had that game.
 
That's not why it's not used... it's because of the nightmarish amount of time you spend unlocking them that makes them a logistical problem.

The custom moveset project on Smashboards makes it easier since you just need 1 member in the scene to have it unlocked either legitimately or by 3DS Powersaves (cheat device).

Though I notice a lot don't want to because Apex and the majority of tourneys weren't using customs on ruleset (why practice for a ruleset not commonly used), and some misconceptions of how powerful some custom moves are (I don't feel any are extremely broken, and even then, the move would just be banned)

It's still a logistical issue that doesn't need to be there, and could be easily remedied with a patch to make custom unlocking easier + accessing them easier.
 
That's not why it's not used... it's because of the nightmarish amount of time you spend unlocking them that makes them a logistical problem.

Couldn't you get the unlocks on one console beforehand then copy the save to the rest of the consoles? Isn't that how they unlock all of the stages and characters for all the consoles.
 
Couldn't you get the unlocks on one console beforehand then copy the save to the rest of the consoles? Isn't that how they unlock all of the stages and characters for all the consoles.

IIRC you can't transfer saves on Wii U. They had to unlock everything manually on all the setups beforehand.
 
Is anyone else having issues trying to get twitch to load at all? I've tried multiple browsers and clearing cache. All I get is just a black screen with the twitch logo.
 
Well I expected there to be a lot of spacies, but it seems like more than 75% the players on stream are spacies, which is more than I expected
I already made a post earlier on character usage, not my problem if you don't read it.
(Hint: spacies are less than half)
 
Is anyone else having issues trying to get twitch to load at all? I've tried multiple browsers and clearing cache. All I get is just a black screen with the twitch logo.
I was having problems earlier, especially with the teamsp00ky stream.

The Smash 4 doubles matches seem to be taking forever BETWEEN the matches. Were they talking to a coach or something? I need to eat dinner! :P

Also even without Brawl here, I forgot how much I disliked watching Ice Climbers do the grab + punch punch punch punch punch punch thing. Some may say it's the most difficult thing in the world to do, and some may say it's not that difficult to do. Either way, I just know that it's really annoying for me as a spectator.
 
Honestly I think Nintendo should have versions of the game for Tournament that has all of the customs unlocked.

That way there is NO way they can't be tourney legal since they would all have them lol.

Also at least for Apex, a years worth of time is enough for those who work hard enough to get them all the customs.
 
Couldn't you get the unlocks on one console beforehand then copy the save to the rest of the consoles? Isn't that how they unlock all of the stages and characters for all the consoles.

No. Saves are locked to the Wii U, you can only back them up for the specific Wii U. They cannot be copied onto another Wii U.
 
Honestly I think Nintendo should have versions of the game for Tournament that has all of the customs unlocked.

That way there is NO way they can't be tourney legal since they would all have them lol.

Also at least for Apex, a years worth of time is enough for those who work hard enough to get them all the customs.
This would be a really nice change for the upcoming tourney mode, something that let all custom moves be unlocked. I really seems unlikely though since the games involve a lot of grinding to unlock things.
 
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