APEX 2015 | Fighting Game Tournament | Jan 30-Feb 1

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Pac-man seems to always be played as a runaway character, does he really have no good actual attacks? I think you should get good mileage out of your character's specials, but c'mon, you've got a big A button too.

His attacks are really slow, do pitiful damage, and are really unsafe (except Fair and Nair). He has to play keepaway/zoning.
 
man, so anticlimactic with time outs. i didn't mind the fights, but the time out really ruins it for me, even if nobody stalls.
 
Dabuz plays such a boring fucking Rosalina. It gets results but damn if it isn't the most boring thing to watch ever.

he played campy in brawl, so that style of play is transferring over to smash 4. it's how he, and a lot of other top brawl players, won in brawl for the last couple of years. they have absolutely no problem playing super defensive and going to time.

luckily, some other top players from brawl like m2k, ally and zero aren't about that life and go aggro as hell. I'm actually looking forward to seeing Zero's diddy.
 
Did anyone saw that egg lay into egg toss? that was sick by wizzy

Yea shit was insane. Right when he gets out wizzy has one laying for him. Wizzy needs more props, great at 64 and PM, decent at Melee too. He's like a fantastic jack of all trades at Smash.

edit: I love Wizzy's combos, but I think I like Taco's yoshi play more it's just so damn cool.
 
I love Smash4. I really do. But that Pac vs. Rosalina match was awful. Pac really is hard countered by Rosalina. He should have character swapped.
 
he played campy in brawl, so that style of play is transferring over to smash 4. it's how he, and a lot of other top brawl players, won in brawl for the last couple of years. they have absolutely no problem playing super defensive and going to time.

luckily, some other top players from brawl like m2k, ally and zero aren't about that life and go aggro as hell. I'm actually looking forward to seeing Zero's diddy.

I doubt Dabuz's gonna win against zero or m2k, going defensive isn't the way to go in smash 4.
 
I really only play smash 4 nowadays but damn.... if this match is the typical for the future of smash it makes me sad. :\

Timing out, 3 minutes+ per stock blah.
 
The Pac dream is dead ;_;
Of course the two annoying characters (imo) in losers advance, instead of the interesting ones. :/
 
I think if anything, this proves that to play top level Smash 4, you need to know more than 1 character. Running up against a hard counter like that, you need to be able to swap.
 
I really only play smash 4 nowadays but damn.... if this match is the typical for the future of smash it makes me sad. :\

Timing out, 3 minutes+ per stock blah.

It's not. It was just a bad match-up. All the pools went by pretty fast with a lot of great combos. aMSa was insanely fast for one, but lost against DHD. aMSa was completely beast mode in his round with Greninja, but unfortunately he lost to zoners.
 
he played campy in brawl, so that style of play is transferring over to smash 4. it's how he, and a lot of other top brawl players, won in brawl for the last couple of years. they have absolutely no problem playing super defensive and going to time.

luckily, some other top players from brawl like m2k, ally and zero aren't about that life and go aggro as hell. I'm actually looking forward to seeing Zero's diddy.
Zero, aggressive in Brawl?

ayy lmao
 
Verizon is throttling me right now so the stream is lagging. I HATE IT THE ONE TIME I WANT TO SEE IT THEY FUCKING THROTTLE US.

Fuck this glad my family is switching to Charter, fucking assholes. I pay for 25 up and down I shouldn't be getting 9 down 4 up.
 
It's this the only match you watched?

I watch a couple doubles and singles. I had both streams up for a bit yesterday and would alternate between melee matches and smash 4 matches. I will admit they all are not this bad but nothing I saw on melee stream (or the previous smash 4 matches) compared to the campiness of this match. I think it was probably because Rosalina was being played.
 
Verizon is throttling me right now so the stream is lagging. I HATE IT THE ONE TIME I WANT TO SEE IT THEY FUCKING THROTTLE US.

Fuck this glad my family is switching to Charter, fucking assholes. I pay for 25 up and down I shouldn't be getting 9 down 4 up.
Rebooting sometimes helps for me.
 
Verizon is throttling me right now so the stream is lagging. I HATE IT THE ONE TIME I WANT TO SEE IT THEY FUCKING THROTTLE US.

Fuck this glad my family is switching to Charter, fucking assholes. I pay for 25 up and down I shouldn't be getting 9 down 4 up.

fuck that. that sucks :(
 
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