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Apple GAF: Just bought myself a PowerBook... need software recommendations..

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Particle Physicist

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im absolutely in love with this machine.. my first laptop.. and mac.

anyway. i need some software recommendations..

should i stick with safari and apple mail.. or are there better alternatives?

any cool plug ins for safari? what about firefox extensions?

p2p programs? BT ?

etc.. and anything else you can think of?
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/index.shtml is good place to get the freeware/shareware stuff from.

GraphicConverter (does what it says on the can)
Xfactor (p2p)
Tomato Torrent (bt)
Transmit (ftp)
VLC (media player)
Speed Download 2 (download accelerator)

Safari is probably worth sticking with, although still has a bit of a way to go. Should be an update in January, and the one that ships with Tiger in June should be the dog's bollocks.

Camino is a very good browser as well, although they've half given up on it since Safari appeared. Good to have around as an alternative though.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Never tried Fugu, not got any complaints with Transmit though and it's got a funky little truck icon :)

Snak is the best IRC client I've used on Mac.
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
Welcome to the club, excellent choice!

Just a quick starters tip: be sure to turn on the Exposé feature in the Control Panel. It allows you to navigate really quickly between programs and windows by just dragging the mouse pointer to the corner of the screen. You'll never go back to menu-based navigation!

Sorry if that was obvious - at least to me, having used macs for 15 years - it took someone to point it out to me. Also, navigating that way looks damn cool. Almost like Minority Report.
 

Particle Physicist

between a quark and a baryon
Rorschach said:
[edit] The official mac bt client is pretty damn fast.


hmm.. so which is better.. Tomato Torrent or the official client? what are the differences.. what are the advantages of having the BitTorrent code separate from the Macintosh code
 

Particle Physicist

between a quark and a baryon
Chittagong said:
Welcome to the club, excellent choice!

Just a quick starters tip: be sure to turn on the Exposé feature in the Control Panel. It allows you to navigate really quickly between programs and windows by just dragging the mouse pointer to the corner of the screen. You'll never go back to menu-based navigation!

Sorry if that was obvious - at least to me, having used macs for 15 years - it took someone to point it out to me. Also, navigating that way looks damn cool. Almost like Minority Report.

done and done.. ive been using macs for the past year or so (work/school) .. but it wasnt until i got this laptop that i realized i didnt have to actually hit F10-12 .. man.. its awesome..

i also like how you can spell check anywhere.. apple shift colon is my friend.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
I've had more success with Tomato Torrent than the 'official' one, and Tomato is much more Mac-like as well.

And ... nice icon!

:D
 
Serafitia said:
What's a good mirc subsitute aside from ircle?

X-Chat

Also, here are some SUPER handy add-ons. They're shareware and will cost you a small amount of green.

SideTrack - Adds scroll support to your touchpad. Once you install this you will wonder how you ever lived without it. If you drag your finger on the very edge of your trackpad, it will now scroll pretty much anything (has a little trouble with drop-down menus).

M-Beat - This little beauty adds an iTunes control panel to your menu bar up to near the clock, battery indicator, and other such things. It's really handy. However, you might want to hold out on this one because Tiger's Dashboard includes an iTunes remote, which will be somewhat similar to this. It also does other things like float the name of the current song on the screen and search up the album art for CDs you have.

done and done.. ive been using macs for the past year or so (work/school) .. but it wasnt until i got this laptop that i realized i didnt have to actually hit F10-12 .. man.. its awesome..

i also like how you can spell check anywhere.. apple shift colon is my friend.

I reccomend mapping the "show all windows" Expose setting to your left Fn key. It's awesome right there. I don't much use the corners of my screen, though I have them mapped.

As for the spell check thing. I didn't know that key command. I just always right click on the words I spell wrong and change them, because it underlines them.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Chittagong said:
Welcome to the club, excellent choice!

Just a quick starters tip: be sure to turn on the Exposé feature in the Control Panel. It allows you to navigate really quickly between programs and windows by just dragging the mouse pointer to the corner of the screen. You'll never go back to menu-based navigation!

Sorry if that was obvious - at least to me, having used macs for 15 years - it took someone to point it out to me. Also, navigating that way looks damn cool. Almost like Minority Report.

Yeah, Expose is great.

Couldn't live without it.
 

Rorschach

Member
quadriplegicjon said:
hmm.. so which is better.. Tomato Torrent or the official client?
I was just saying if you don't really need any other client. For me, the official one has been the best in terms of speed, but in terms of other functions (like download manager, stats, interface etc) Tomato is better. The official one is just the basics, which is enough for me since I only use BT on occasion on my mac.

[edit]Also, get firefox with iTunes extension. :D
 

sonatinas

Member
dont get any software hacks or any crap like that or softwae updates will suck for you
quicksilver is a paretty cool program until tiger comes out
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
StrikerObi said:
SideTrack - Adds scroll support to your touchpad. Once you install this you will wonder how you ever lived without it. If you drag your finger on the very edge of your trackpad, it will now scroll pretty much anything (has a little trouble with drop-down menus).

Cheers for pointing SideTrack out, that's a genius idea!
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Cocktail is a nice little utility for managing system things - like pre-binding (sort of like optimising the system), repairing permissions, cleaning system and browser caches, and can also turn on a few hidden system features such as changing the minimise effect.

Before installing OS updates from Software Update it's a good idea to repair permissions, and then repair them again afterwards. Cocktail is useful for this.
 

Particle Physicist

between a quark and a baryon
wow.. i wasnt expecting all these responses... this is great..

anyway. im gonna ask a very newbie question.. but how to you uninstall programs. do you just send them to the trash? or is there a more formal way.. like add/remove on XP
 

Phoenix

Member
sonatinas said:
dont get any software hacks or any crap like that or softwae updates will suck for you
quicksilver is a paretty cool program until tiger comes out

Got a few hacks on my machine and haven't had any trouble all the way through the most recent Tiger beta.
 

Phoenix

Member
quadriplegicjon said:
wow.. i wasnt expecting all these responses... this is great..

anyway. im gonna ask a very newbie question.. but how to you uninstall programs. do you just send them to the trash? or is there a more formal way.. like add/remove on XP

Add/Remove programs is just god-awful stupid. Take an application, drag into the trash. Empty the trash. The program is 'uninstalled'. OSX applications are bundles. If you look inside one you will see all the libraries, assets, etc. that the application uses. This allows you to move it whereever (including other machines entirely) and still have the application work flawlessly. This posed a problem for Microsoft Office early on because people would just go into stores and copy the office apps onto an iPod then copy them onto their Macs and they would just work. Fortunately we don't have to deal with some of the poorer UI choices of Windows. But we have a few quirks of our own (Finder just isn't as good as Explorer for finding things).
 

Particle Physicist

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Phoenix said:
Add/Remove programs is just god-awful stupid. Take an application, drag into the trash. Empty the trash. The program is 'uninstalled'. OSX applications are bundles. If you look inside one you will see all the libraries, assets, etc. that the application uses. This allows you to move it whereever (including other machines entirely) and still have the application work flawlessly. This posed a problem for Microsoft Office early on because people would just go into stores and copy the office apps onto an iPod then copy them onto their Macs and they would just work. Fortunately we don't have to deal with some of the poorer UI choices of Windows. But we have a few quirks of our own (Finder just isn't as good as Explorer for finding things).

yeah.. i realized this just now.. while playing around.. bundles is a great damn idea. ive been working on macs for about a year.. but i never had system admin control.. to add/remove software.. this is damn nice..

oh.. and is there a way to delete only certain files from the trash.. or is it all or nothing? this has really been bugging me for a bit..
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
quadriplegicjon said:
anyway. im gonna ask a very newbie question.. but how to you uninstall programs. do you just send them to the trash? or is there a more formal way.. like add/remove on XP
For the most part, programs kinda exist completely in the one icon that's in your apps folder. So you just trash it, and everything's cool. Some programs have a trail of files, though.

Serafitia said:
What's a good mirc subsitute aside from ircle?
Colloquy's cool, lots of features and stuff.


Nash said:
I've had more success with Tomato Torrent than the 'official' one, and Tomato is much more Mac-like as well.

And ... nice icon!

:D
I'm a real icon whore sometimes. And that one's nice :)

EDIT: Ok, Xfactor's really fucking cool. And to think I was using limewire...
 

Macam

Banned
My own personal favorites thus far:

Adium X: A free IM client that's supports AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo!, Rendezvous, Yahoo! Japan, Gadu-Gadu, Jabber, Napster, Lotus Sametime (via the Meanwhile plugin), and Novell GroupWise as well as tabbed browsing and other goodies. It has some mild issues that are being worked out such as file transfer issues and such, but the updates are frequent and it's a great, fully customizable client that's a great alternative to iChat.

Synergy: An iTunes add-on that's free or $5 if you care to buy a license. This is a great, great program that's entirely customizable and works wonders. You can set up global hot keys to control iTunes regardless of the program you're using if you like, and it's well worth the $5. Additionally, it runs entirely through System Preferences to save real estate and resources. I just checked out M-Beat and they seem to have overlappng functionality, but I can vouch firsthand for Synergy; besides, it's cheaper:)

Macaroni: This is a regular maintenance program that's free for about 30 days, $9 to buy. It basically keeps your Mac running like it should, including automatically repairing permissions via the Disk Utility tool and other scheduled tasks. Again, runs only in System Preferences and completely customizable.

Diablotin: This program basically helps you manage plug-ins.

Acquistion: A great P2P program that's free or $15 to buy, that's tightly integrated with the Aqua interface. I quite like it when I want to sample a full track of music.

Mac The Ripper: A great tool for backing up DVDs. And yes, I actually use this for legit back ups, as it's a lot easier than lugging a DVD to watch on the laptop.

Also, if it's your first Mac, I highly recommend Mac OS X: The Missing Manual. It'll help you dig deep into Mac OS X and get familiar with a lot of it; the book is cheap and if you check Fry's ads, they usually have the book for free after a rebate, or other Missing Manual books, which are excellent quick guides into software.

Safari is a good browser and it's what I use most, although I have Opera installed as a back up; I booted IE the second I got it just for good measure. Firefox, by all accounts, is good as well, but I think there's little reason to switch from Safari honestly. Mail is also a very good little program, but I'm not much of e-mail expert; still I have it tied into my Gmail and .Mac accounts and it works fantastic.

Also, Sherlock can be a handy little program for checking movie times and such, although if anyone knows of a weather channel or mini-program that's good and uses minimal resources, I'd like to hear it (let alone any good iCalendars worth subscribing to).

RadTech: This isn't software, but it's a good site full of handy accessories, including a great mouse.

Anyway, welcome to the fold. Bring on Tiger, Apple!
 

aaaaa0

Member
Phoenix said:
Add/Remove programs is just god-awful stupid. Take an application, drag into the trash. Empty the trash. The program is 'uninstalled'.

Well if you're anal you might want to look in the Prefences folder and check if it left some turds in there and nuke those too.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
mattiewheels said:
Ok, Xfactor's really fucking cool. And to think I was using limewire...

Good isn't it!

Nice interface, connects to multiple networks (FastTrack/Kazaa, Gnutella, OpenFT), good preview option, IRC chat ...

Definitely my p2p programme of choice over Poisoned, Acquisition etc. And as for Limewire ... <shudder> ;)
 
Acquistion is my fave third-party Mac app (well apart from the obvious like the Adobe CS etc.), it's the most amazing P2P software ever and it finds me so many files I never have found on other P2P networks.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Freestyler said:
Acquistion is my fave third-party Mac app (well apart from the obvious like the Adobe CS etc.), it's the most amazing P2P software ever and it finds me so many files I never have found on other P2P networks.

It was good in the old days, but it still only searches Gnutella and there's *far* more stuff on FastTrack/Kazaa. Also charging for a p2p client is a bit questionable in my opinion ...

If you haven't tried them already, I'd give Xfactor or Poisoned a try. They usually find everything Acquistion does, and a lot more, and are free.
 
StrikerObi said:
SideTrack - Adds scroll support to your touchpad. Once you install this you will wonder how you ever lived without it. If you drag your finger on the very edge of your trackpad, it will now scroll pretty much anything (has a little trouble with drop-down menus).
SideTrack increases my productivity on my work TiG4 two-fold at least. Assuming you assign the bottom and right edges for scrolling, assign the upper left corner as a right click (aka control-click), and you're golden.

Obviously Toast Titanium is mandatory if you plan on burning to CDs/DVDs.

And, while some will object to its high-tier annual fee, a .Mac account w/ iDisk, a sexy email address, thorough movie tutorials, and iSync can come in handy. It has saved my ass a few times. And the tight integration with iPhoto makes sharing pictures a lot less painless/time consuming.

No, I don't work for Apple...just one of its co-founders. :D
 

sc0la

Unconfirmed Member
Get Firefox / Thunderbird as has been mentioned
Also grab VLC (as has been mentioned)

I am a fan of Cyberduck a freeware FTP program that you can grab off the net
 

drohne

hyperbolically metafictive
whoa, that sidetrack utility is great.

i used to use safari, but moved to firefox for some reason i can't quite remember. probably page incompatibilities.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
FreakyFink said:
SideTrack increases my productivity on my work TiG4 two-fold at least. Assuming you assign the bottom and right edges for scrolling, assign the upper left corner as a right click (aka control-click), and you're golden.

Heh, that's exactly how I'd just set it up :)

Having tap top-right/bottom-right as page-up/page-down also works well with the scrolling.

Edit: Apple really should contact this bloke and absorb SideTrack into Tiger. Such a good idea!
 

Lhadatt

Member
quadriplegicjon said:
anyway. im gonna ask a very newbie question.. but how to you uninstall programs. do you just send them to the trash? or is there a more formal way.. like add/remove on XP
Just trash the program. Pretty simple stuff. :) No need to trash them before installing new versions either, just overwrite. Most settings are saved in your /home folder, I believe.

Fugu is good. Cyberduck is great for FTP/SFTP, but that's all it does. Chicken of the VNC is really nice too (and the icon is quite funny). The latest version of the official BT client got a nice visual overhaul, very Macish.

This game looks neato.
 

sc0la

Unconfirmed Member
Lhadatt said:
Yeah another vote for cyberduck. it has a fun icn too :lol

I will have to try and add the sidetrack thing now, but to be honest I really try not to use the touch pad at all.
 

Macam

Banned
Just gave SideTrack a spin and I love it -- thanks for the recommendation on that one. Even though I have a USB mouse, there are times when I simply need the extra space for books or something at a coffee shop. Great little program.

As for Acquisition, I don't use P2P frequently save to sample a full version of a song or something similar on occassion, so more often than not I can find what I'm looking for easily.

At the moment, I opted to give Poisioned a try over Xfactor due to more favorable feedback on VersionTracker, and so far, Acquisition is actually giving me more results and it's got a leg up on the interface side as well; Poisoned doesn't seem to really clue you in as to when it's still searching or has stopped for example. I'll play with them more and see how they pan out over time.
 
Solar Seek is the Mac version of Soul Seek. It's tons better than Acquisition IMO. Solar Seek is still a little buggy, but it's the best substitute for Soul Seek. Also, check your PMs ;)
 

sc0la

Unconfirmed Member
Fuck Sidetrack fucked up my mouse set up, Now the rocker wheel no longer scrolls left and right but rather navigates web pages forward/back. =/

Annoying. No how the hell am i going to fix this.

couldn't even get the sidetrack horizontal scroll working at all.
 
One nice program not mentioned here is Butler.

Like Synegry, it can assign hot keys to iTunes, but it also can assign hotkeys to launch anything, as well as a number of system functions. Best of all, I use it to add a menu to the upper-right toolbar through which I can navigate through all my apps (instead of trying to load them all onto the dock, or hunting for them every time).


I also use to it hot-key launch web searches on any number of sites.
 

ckohler

Member
I really recommend upgrading to Quicktime Pro. It'll let you export audio and video files into a TON of formats. Also, it'll let you run any quicktime compatible video full screen.

Also get the free Divx Quicktime component from divx.com. It used to suck but now it plays back most all Divx files just fine. Any it doesn't play you can use VLC or MPlayer for. You might want to consider buying the MPEG-2 component for Quicktime also, to let you playback MPEG-2 files and export them to other formats.

Unison is by far the best Usenet Newsgroups program I've used. It's made by the same people who make Transmit (best FTP app also, imo).

UnRarX is an awesome free app to unrar stuff with.

Sound Studio is the best shareware audio editing app I've found.
 

Phoenix

Member
I'd also recommend you add versiontracker.com to your bookmarks list. Excellent place to go to look for things.
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
OT, but speaking of Macs, now that I have a PC for gaming I no longer really need the expandability of my 1.6GHz PowerMac G5 and am contemplating replacing it with an iMac G5 20". Anyone interested in a PowerMac G5? :)
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I just got an Apple wireless mouse for my iBook. It's really purty.

But I had an idea: to solve the no-scrollwheel problem on these mice, maybe they could but a touch-sensitive panel where the wheel usually is? So then they wouldn't have to sacrafice the aesthetic they've kept up forever. Or would that drive the price up too much?
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
mattiewheels said:
I just got an Apple wireless mouse for my iBook. It's really purty.

But I had an idea: to solve the no-scrollwheel problem on these mice, maybe they could but a touch-sensitive panel where the wheel usually is? So then they wouldn't have to sacrafice the aesthetic they've kept up forever. Or would that drive the price up too much?

Actually there have been rumors that Apple would be adding something similar to iPod's touch-sensitive scrolling wheel to their mice that could be used similarly to a wheel on a mouse.
 

Particle Physicist

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SteveMeister said:
Actually there have been rumors that Apple would be adding something similar to iPod's touch-sensitive scrolling wheel to their mice that could be used similarly to a wheel on a mouse.


what about two buttons?? i cant stand the one button mouse.
 
Why not just a regular 2-button mouse with a wheel?

That's what I use on my Powerbook, and I don't think I'd ever want to give it up.

Apple rocks on so many UI issues, but sometimes they seem retarted.
 

Particle Physicist

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Ignatz Mouse said:
Why not just a regular 2-button mouse with a wheel?

That's what I use on my Powerbook, and I don't think I'd ever want to give it up.

Apple rocks on so many UI issues, but sometimes they seem retarted.

yeah. i have a nice logitech mini mouse.
 
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