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[diffusionx]

iTunes is straight up trash. Like having your phone wiped because you got a new computer is ridiculous. Also, locking your phone to a single computer is just hilariously stupid. I have a work iPhone where I have to make the choice between backing up to my work laptop and not have any of my music or have my music but have to back up a work phone to my personal computer.

I haven't sync'ed my phone to my computer in probably 5 years.

 

[Timedog]

ITunes is sooooooo bad on PC. I just built a new computer with an overclocked i7 and an ssd and it's still insanely slow in every single regard and freezes for like 45 seconds if I try to play a song after having it open but untouched for a couple hours.

It's NEVER been good on PC. Not one release in the last decade has been good. Also it deleted a bunch of my songs a few years ago. Luckily I had them backed up.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Huh? Mission Control only came out 2 years ago for OSX while Windows 7 had Aero snap, 3D flip etc ages back. Sure they didn't have multitouch trackpads with gestures a decade ago but those window management features were still easily accesible with mousing to the edge of the screen (Mac had hot corners).

Spoiler

I don’t like snapping either and Aero was ugly but Microsft did it first and better

Others have said as much above, but just wanted to clarify myself, I was referring to both Exposé and Mssion Control. Mission Control is really just Exposé renamed.

 

[What A Time To Be Alive]

I would agree to the fact that iOS has been getting bloated over the years. I would like to be able to uninstall stock apps except the absolutely important ones like the App Store and Settings tbh.

Also iTunes on Windows is literal trash, thing is such a performance hog and they have done nothing to fix it over the years. The last time iTunes was really usable to me on a PC was like in 2008/2009. Even on Mac it isn't what I want it to be at times.

If they cut back some of the shit a little and actually build up these phones to last two or three years of software updates without getting sluggish as fuck (My iPhone 5S is on it's last breath rn smh) I would be fine with iOS

On the other hand though I love Mac OS X which is crazy, how you fuck up on the mobile OS?????

 

[cbox]

You can in 2015.

Seriously? This is news to me

 

[Joel Was Right]

Why add post 7438 saying the same thing? Fuck.

 

[Netherscourge]

I will never understand hate for iTunes. It is not sluggish, it's just not light.

iTunes is slow as crap on most PCs.

Sometimes it doesn't even launch on first attempt. And then there are USB driver issues with iOS devices.

 

[Nafai1123]

I can't believe people honestly defend iTunes.

 

[Khaos_Knight]

I can't talk about Apple's other software but I hate itunes. I dreaded having to load music onto my mom's ipod shuffle because of it. Thankfully no one in my place uses Apple devices so I don't have to ever deal with that shit.

I'm still using iTunes 10.4 because 11 sucked arse and 12 sucks donkey balls.

So you're saying there's a very happy donkey over at Apple headquarters?

 

[infiniteloop]

Eddy Cue and Craig Federighi were on John Gruber's podcast today. Mossberg's article came up; there's a lot of "yeah, but 200,000 iMessages a minute" "yeah, but a billion active devices" but they talk about some of the discussions they have around software development.

Gruber brings up iTunes, Cue says they're looking at the possibility of breaking out all/some of iTunes functions into separate apps.

Worth a listen.

http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2016/02/12/ep-146

 

[Blackhead]

Gruber brings up iTunes, Cue says they're looking at the possibility of breaking out all/some of iTunes functions into separate apps.

Worth a listen

Finally?

 

[infiniteloop]

Finally?

well, they're at least aware of it. Whether it'll come this year in 10.12, who knows.

 

[Blackhead]

well, they're at least aware of it. Whether it'll come this year in 10.12, who knows.

Well I suggested over half a decade ago that Apple break up iTunes so what's another year or two waiting for them to get their shit in order

iTunes X: User Interface Concept


That won't fix iTunes' core problem which is that it does too much. I've got a few replacement apps that individually only perform a few of iTunes features but each does one thing very well

I think, for a start, iBooks shouldn't be in iTunes. It should be a standalone application (or combined with preview). The music, movies and app stores should be in a separate application. The music and podcast player can be a separated from the movie and tv shows player etc.

I'm surprised that my comments about breaking up iTunes got so many negative responses. I not used to advising Apple fans (it's usually the other way around) that not using an app that does many things poorly is the guide to computing happiness. Hmm...

It's disappointing that Apple is only begrudgingly considering it now after pointed criticism from major news outlets. I barely have the energy to complain anymore

Spoiler

I would rather engage in petty pedantic arguments over the history of Windows' window management 😒

 

[minor effort]

Why add post 7438 saying the same thing? Fuck.

Because one person saying a piece of software is plagued with issues is easily dismissible. One hundred people saying the same thing, less so.

 

[uncelestial]

They really ought to have a web player that works for your iTunes Match/Apple Music library because then I'd rarely have to even use the hellish piece of shit that is installed iTunes. Hell I rarely use installed apps at all, except for Adobe. Web apps take seconds to start up and tear down and never need to download updates. And nowadays they work offline just fine. Google Docs offline is my jam on the train.

No idea why Apple thinks installed software is the answer to every problem. FaceTime and Messenger are two other ones that bug me -- Apple knows it's only for communicating online. Why do I need an installed client for that?

It was a real drag when Chrome removed "Open as a Window" from Mac Chrome because my Dock was just a slew of Chrome Apps that had fullscreen windows when you clicked them, as though they were installed. Now they all open tabs. So 20th century! (sips tea)

 

[The Albatross]

iTunes is complete shit. But if we're also talking about other shitty Apple software:

• Pages
• Numbers
• Mail
• iCloud
• iPhoto
• Formerly garageband, but haven't used the newest ones
• OS X App Store is definitely the worst

Keynote isn't bad, but a lot of the value of it is that it just isn't Powerpoint, so it's easy to do something simple in Keynote that doesn't look like a Powerpoint deck but it would be the opposite if Keynote were ubiquitous like Powerpoint. But otherwise, for such a profitable, successful company, Apple generally has the worst software compared to any other similarly marketed company. It wouldn't be a problem if iOS didn't treats 3rd party applications like refugees.

Apple's roadblocks towards using the software that you want to use and letting it perform like 1st party software is a huge problem, but this is largely relegated to iOS.

I still love OS X, but I have a lot of frustrations with Apple's software on that too.

 

[Aureon]

Hi, i'm a software tester.

Please let us have a developer mode with non-mac-requiring video registration, showing taps, .ipa downloads installation and whatevernot.
And a way to install apps, and dump logs, that doesn't require going through iTunes.
Please.

Also, why does iTunes try to sync my shit every time, and why does it want my iCloud account every time. For anything at all.

And drag-n-drop access to the non-protected file system! that'd be great.

And a jailbreak which doesn't corrupt functionality!

And... okay, it's not happening anyway.