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Dreams-Visions said:
iPad 3 Retina Display will be shown next week.

conjecture, but I don't think an educated guess could be any more logical or rational.

2,560 x 1,600 @ 10.1" am GO.
That sounds more likely for an Android device, probably a Samsung Galaxy Tab. If Samsung can really get one out this fall, with the upcoming Nvidia chips, that would be a megaton.

That said, I'm more interested in LG's 4.5" and 7" panels.
Teddman said:
Ridiculous. So the iPad won't have access to the best comic reader app in the business. Nice way to punish your customers, Apple.
I'm seriously rethinking my purchase of the iPad2. CRM was a major reason for me to buy the iPad.
 
Charred Greyface said:
That sounds more likely for an Android device, probably a Samsung Galaxy Tab. If Samsung can really get one out this fall, with the upcoming Nvidia chips, that would be a megaton.

That said, I'm more interested in LG's 4.5" and 7" panels.
I'm seriously rethinking my purchase of the iPad2. CRM was a major reason for me to buy the iPad.
I definitely doubt Samsung would make this tech to keep it exclusive to their products.

No, they AND LG will be selling them to everyone who wants to buy. And Apple will want to buy. :-)
 
DataStream said:
Adobe Ideas is more in line with Procreate, these PS apps are not trying to be a one stop content creation app (except Eazel maybe).
I found using Ideas to be a terrible experience. I'd settle for a simple creation app that was properly responsive.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
I definitely doubt Samsung would make this tech to keep it exclusive to their products.

No, they AND LG will be selling them to everyone who wants to buy. And Apple will want to buy. :-)
Apple isn't going to use a 10.1" non-IPS display. Samsung won't keep it exclusive but it'll be reserved first for their products and be available in limited quantities for everyone else. How many other Android phones have SAMOLED displays?

LG won't be selling it to everyone, especially if Apple stumped up the cash for developing and manufacturing the screens. The 3.5" retina displays so far are either licensed exclusive to Apple or the entire bulk of the production runhas been paid for in advance by Apple. Only two other phones (android) use those 3.5 retina displays, one of which is sold only in Japan and the other of which is sold only in China.
 
1,024 x 768 = 786,432

2,560 x 1,600 = 4,096,000 pixels.

4,096,000 / 768,432 = 5,33

Where is Apple going to find enough rendering power to push more than 5x the amount of pixels iPad 2 has? iPad 2 had a huge amount of power increase compared to iPad 2, I'm not sure if they can pull this again. Especially if they want to launch later this year.
 
Lagspike_exe said:
1,024 x 768 = 786,432

2,560 x 1,600 = 4,096,000 pixels.

4,096,000 / 768,432 = 5,33

Where is Apple going to find enough rendering power to push more than 5x the amount of pixels iPad 2 has? iPad 2 had a huge amount of power increase compared to iPad 2, I'm not sure if they can pull this again. Especially if they want to launch later this year.
They won't be using that resolution. It's going to be 2048x1536. The 4 has the same GPU as the 3GS. They'll manage with the SGX543MP2.
 
giga said:
They won't be using that resolution. It's going to be 2048x1536. The 4 has the same GPU as the 3GS. They'll manage with the SGX543MP2.

I think the difference is that it's not unreasonable to believe the iPhone 4/iPad 2 can handle the iPhones 960x640 resolution but to do 2048x1536 is pretty hard to imagine right now.
 
Tobor said:
They're not going to a 10.1" 16x9 display. Come on, people.

no, but the point I took from the announcement is that those pixel densities on 10" screens is now out of the labs. (anyone who thought they would change aspect ratios isn't paying attention, I agree)

Apple would almost assuredly go for a different aspect ratio (and without the pentile pixel arrangement) but the announcement of this panel now means the odds of a "retina" iPad 3 much better, imo.
 
That display is built on the same technology as the AMOLED screens, right? Is going to have horrible quality in that case, I can't stand reading stuff on AMOLED. It always comes of as jaggy and a bit blurry.
 
16x9 is such an awkward ratio when using portrait, which is my primary direction. Unless the bevels were significantly reduced.
 
I have a question for Comic Flow users, how can I create a folder on Windows 7 that gets synced automatically over my network?
I'm currently using Cyberduck but I remember reading here on GAF I could simply create a folder on my desktop for drag and dropping, which would be perfect.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Quite the mis-leading link title. Samsung does not provide touchscreen LCDs to Apple, LG does. In fact, this is more likely to be seen on a Galaxy tab then an iPad.

This is the equivalent of saying Kinect for Playstation is coming next year because it exists for Microsoft.

I know where you're coming from, just think it's the wrong way of going at it. No one ever doubted the technology for a retina display existed or was possible. They were already out - really expensive and not mass produced. But the very fact Samsung are JUST showing it off now goes to show you that it wasn't possible 2 months ago for a wide release.
 
mrkgoo said:
16x9 is such an awkward ratio when using portrait, which is my primary direction. Unless the bevels were significantly reduced.
16x9 flat out sucks on a tablet. It's crazy with how copy-happy the competition is they can't figure this out.
 
Tobor said:
16x9 flat out sucks on a tablet. It's crazy with how copy-happy the competion is they can't figure this out.
It's great for movie watching though. It's also kinda crazy that the Asus tablet has a better screen and better battery life than all the entry-level Mac notebooks (including the 13" MBP) all of which are twice the price. The Android tablets could be real notebook/netbook replacements while the iPad isn't quite there yet.
 
Charred Greyface said:
It's great for movie watching though. It's also kinda crazy that the Asus tablet has a better screen and better battery life than all the entry-level Mac notebooks (including the 13" MBP) all of which are twice the price. The Android tablets could be real notebook/netbook replacements while the iPad isn't quite there yet.


As soon as the iPad starts trying to be a "real" notebook replacement, people will stop buying it.

simple truism: Any hardware or software feature that Charred wants to see integrated into a product will lead directly to that product's failure.

(sorry)
 
Charred Greyface said:
It's great for movie watching though. It's also kinda crazy that the Asus tablet has a better screen and better battery life than all the entry-level Mac notebooks (including the 13" MBP) all of which are twice the price. The Android tablets could be real notebook/netbook replacements while the iPad isn't quite there yet.
If 100% of your tablet usage is watching movies, then great.

As for what constitutes a notebook replacement, that depends on the User.

simple truism: Any hardware or software feature that Charred wants to see integrated into a product will lead directly to that product's failure.

Ice cold. Lol.
 
NYR said:
Quite the mis-leading link title. Samsung does not provide touchscreen LCDs to Apple, LG does. In fact, this is more likely to be seen on a Galaxy tab then an iPad.

This is the equivalent of saying Kinect for Playstation is coming next year because it exists for Microsoft.

I know where you're coming from, just think it's the wrong way of going at it. No one ever doubted the technology for a retina display existed or was possible. They were already out - really expensive and not mass produced. But the very fact Samsung are JUST showing it off now goes to show you that it wasn't possible 2 months ago for a wide release.
I think you took that link title much too hard and too literally. lol. A read of the article will show the obvious conjecture.

Anyway, LG provides Apple's displays *right now*. Samsung can most certainly be contracted to supply the next iPad's display. What we will see next week can most certainly be considered the kind of thing we'll see in te next iPad, which you did understand was the point. Whether or not Samsung is the supplier or not is a function of what the competition can do and when they can do it. Samsung has said their 300dpi tech will be ready to ship in the Fall. Sounds like it'll be a viable option for the iPad.

Samsung will be looking to sell panels to any buyer with money. Including Apple, provided they can make a 300dpi 4:3 screen. And it looks to me like they are ahead of the curve.
 
LCfiner said:
As soon as the iPad starts trying to be a "real" notebook replacement, people will stop buying it.
Lol, you think people are attached to their shit windows PCs and dont wish that their iPad ecosystem was good enough to replace it?

LCfiner said:
simple truism: Any hardware or software feature that Charred wants to see integrated into a product will lead directly to that product's failure.

(sorry)
I've been wanting a retina display iPad since I first laid my hands on an iPhone 4...
 
Tobor said:
16x9 flat out sucks on a tablet. It's crazy with how copy-happy the competition is they can't figure this out.

If the competition was so copy-happy wouldn't they have copied the 4:3 ratio?
 
Copernicus said:
If the competition was so copy-happy wouldn't they have copied the 4:3 ratio?
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Charred Greyface said:
Lol, you think people are attached to their shit windows PCs and dont wish that their iPad ecosystem was good enough to replace it?

that's not what I meant. I meant that adding the complexity necessary to make the iPad into a complete notebook replacement would diminish the overall appeal of the product.

that doesn't mean that there are no ways for the ipad to be more useful or to rely less on a PC and still be easy to use (heck, it'd be easier to use if it didn't need to sync to itunes before using it). But I feel that the people who absolutely need traditional PCs for whatever reason will not be replacing them with ipads. the ipad will always be supplemental for them.

for people who only use a fraction of a PC's capbilities, well, I think the iPad can and is replacing those PCs right now.
 
Tobor said:
That's what I'm saying. Why ignore one of the best decisions Apple made?

It was the best decision for apple.

Content for the ipad works on the ipad cause it's tailored specifically for the ipad.


brotkasten said:
Competition? Then why are we talking about Android tablets?

-_-
 
Copernicus said:
If the competition was so copy-happy wouldn't they have copied the 4:3 ratio?
It's more expensive. They need to cut as much costs as they can to get to their tolerable price points.
 
Copernicus said:
It was the best decision for apple.

Content for the ipad works on the ipad cause it's tailored specifically for the ipad.




-_-
No, it's the best design decision for tablets in general. It's easier to hold, manipulate the interface, type, read, and do everything but watch widescreen video content. HP at least gets it.
 
LyleLanley said:
I think the difference is that it's not unreasonable to believe the iPhone 4/iPad 2 can handle the iPhones 960x640 resolution but to do 2048x1536 is pretty hard to imagine right now.
He was pointing out that it was the same thing. iPhone 3GS to 4 had pretty much the same CPU and GPU (just clocked up), and they quadrupled the resolution. Going to 2048x1536 is the same jump in scale, and not that crazy when you consider that the iPad 2 has (conveniently) something like 4x the fill rate of the original, which is why it can already do 1080p no problem. Clock it up a bit and you should handle 2048 fine.

...That said I wouldn't be surprised to see a performance hit for some stuff like the iPhone 4 had, which is why I'm not a fan of the move. But generally it should be fine.

Of course they could just add more cores or change it up with the next gen cores which look to be a huge huge jump.
Dreams-Visions said:
Samsung will be looking to sell panels to any buyer with money. Including Apple, provided they can make a 300dpi 4:3 screen. And it looks to me like they are ahead of the curve.
Yeah they're not going to hoard them for themselves when Apple is willing to shove a few billion dollars in their face.
 
Strange question:

Any suggestions on how to clean a box wave/targus stylus. Basically any of the rubber tip stylus.

I dint use it for a while and now it feels really gross and 'sticky' when drawing with it. Thinking about warm soap and water but not sure.
 
kr2t0s said:
Strange question:

Any suggestions on how to clean a box wave/targus stylus. Basically any of the rubber tip stylus.

I dint use it for a while and now it feels really gross and 'sticky' when drawing with it. Thinking about warm soap and water but not sure.
I actually haven't tried cleaning...I just stick a small piece of tape on the end which ends up slicker than it ever was.
 
Tobor said:
No, it's the best design decision for tablets in general. It's easier to hold, manipulate the interface, type, read, and do everything but watch widescreen video content. HP at least gets it.


This. 16x9 is foolish for a tablet design.
 
Yeah. I'd hate to have a 16:9/16:10 tablet. When holding it portrait, it would be way too tall and holding it landscape would leave your hands so far apart. The 4:3 proportions are perfect.
 
It depends. 16:10 or 16:9 is actually a closer match for comic books. And of course it's better for movies. So if you're predominantly using the tablet for browsing the web in landscape, watching movies, and reading comics, 16:10 might be better.
 
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