Did you even watch the keynote bro?
Almost twice as fast CPU and GPU, double the RAM (supposedly), way better camera, 3D touch, better materials, faster touch ID, etc etc.
Yeah the colors are all that changed. Right.
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Apple iPhone 6S |OT|
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Did you even watch the keynote bro?
Almost twice as fast CPU and GPU, double the RAM (supposedly), way better camera, 3D touch, better materials, faster touch ID, etc etc.
Yeah the colors are all that changed. Right.
LostMyNarbles
Member
You'll both need to upgrade online at AT&T's website. They've gotten rid of subsidized contracts at third-party retailer stores and in-store orders at AT&T corporate locations so the only option is to order online. You can upgrade at an Apple Store if you want, but they'll force you to upgrade using AT&T NEXT which is their monthly payment plan. Additionally you could always buy the phone off-contract full retail and then just switch it to your account.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
How does the iPhone upgrade program differ from the existing Verizon Edge program?
edit: Wait, is the Edge program dead?
edit: Wait, is the Edge program dead?
Yeah, I have seen maybe two crashes the whole time I've had a 6. App crashes maybe a handful or so times. And it's pretty much the same couple of apps. I do see a lot of Safari refreshes though.
Saying the 6 lags 'all the time' is not true in my experience.
They are talking about a 6, I believe.
Saying the 6 lags 'all the time' is not true in my experience.
They are talking about a 6, I believe.
My 6 Plus has been... inconsistent. Certainly not as bad as my S3 or Note 3 which were disasters, but Safari especially has plenty of reloading issues and drains the battery like no business. I can go from 100% to 50% in two hours of surfing, but it can stay on standby for days while barely draining. 5S and Air 2 have been very consistent all round. The revision models are usually a lot more stable, which is why I'm upgrading.
Are you expecting anyone in this iPhone thread to steer you away from an iPhone?
If you're heavily tied into Google services, or just like the way Android does things, you're probably going to hate iOS. If you've never used an iPhone, might as well give it a try. You can always return it if/when you find yourself annoyed by its many shortcomings.
LostMyNarbles
Member
For Verizon's program you make 24 monthly payments on the device until you own it completely or you can at any time choose to completely pay off your phone and then get a new one. Apple's program has you sign a two year financing agreement to make a payment monthly over 24 months until the phone is paid off. However after 12 months you can choose to return the phone to them and get the latest new iPhone. Their plan also includes Apple Care+ Insurance.
Apple's program will be more expensive because it's based under the fact that you'll want to get a new phone every year and also because it comes with insurance. Verizon's is cheaper per month, but you can only upgrade when the phone is fully paid off. However the flip side is once you pay off the phone on Verizon's plan it is yours to keep whereas if you upgrade in 12 months on Apple's plan you must trade the phone in towards a new one.
Apple's plan isn't bad if you want to constantly have the latest iPhone, but understand you'll basically be paying them a minimum of $400 every year for it.
Sir Abacus
Member
Nope I'm talking about the 6 plus.
I have no experience at all with the 6. But the 6 plus has just been a disaster for the year I've owned it.
I paid a little over 1000 bucks for this because I have the 128gb one and I would never recommend this phone to anyone.
I think at least 3 or 4 people in this thread have already talked about the very inconsistent performance of the plus model so it may be some issue with powering the bigger screen or something? Who knows.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
A 16GB base model in this day and age is complete bullshit. Apple does it for a clear reason too, to get people to spend $100 more for a 64GB. Don't give me this "Oh, 99% of users with a 16GB model don't use half of their space!" of course they don't, because iOS9 will ALREADY USE IT FOR THEM. Without expandable storage, 32GB should be the MINIMUM for a phone. MINIMUM.
POWERSPHERE
Member
Blows my mind watching these threads at the amount of people who want to upgrade from their iPhone 6. A 4 or 5, sure but a 6 is still amazing. We're all idiots.
That said, bring on the 7! Yiiiew!
That said, bring on the 7! Yiiiew!
Your Entertainer
Member
BGR apparently says the A9 is a tricore with 2GB of RAM. Take that with a grain of salt.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
A lot of people here live in Europe, where that is an option due to no two year contracts, and since contracts are gone here in the states, that will be the standard, plus this is NeoGAF, the home of early adopters and deep regrets afterwards.
Also, people still have the 4? 4S maybe, but the 4?
I agree there are other factors but still...
My level of tolerance for yearly price increases
10% acceptable
15% pain but I'll still bite
20% dafuq
Makes it worse that our dollar is similar to CAD and they will be paying almost 26% less.
I'm still rocking a 5C and I really have no problems at all. Except for that new Roller Coaster Tycoon game being the first game to not be compatible with my phone. I don't want to upgrade, I got an iPhone in part because I don't like big phones 
Would buying an iPhone 5S future-proof me a bit more? How does it compare to the new iPod Touch?
Would buying an iPhone 5S future-proof me a bit more? How does it compare to the new iPod Touch?
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/641706763775963136
Looks like T-mobile is going to release details on something competing with the Apple upgrade program.
It will be interesting to see how this differentiates from Jump on Demand where you aren't tied to iOS and can choose Android if you wish.
Looks like T-mobile is going to release details on something competing with the Apple upgrade program.
It will be interesting to see how this differentiates from Jump on Demand where you aren't tied to iOS and can choose Android if you wish.
Sir Abacus
Member
Gazelle is going to give me $476 for my iPhone 6+ 128GB model. The premium that Verizon is going to charge me on my phone bill for being on contract for the next year is $240. I can jump on the upgrade cycle at $47.45 and effectively get the first five months for free.
Here's my math:
Two year contract
$399 (Purchase Price)
+$480 (Verizon tax of $40/mo instead of $20/mo for line rental)
+$99 (Applecare)
-$201 (Gazelle)
=$777 effective phone price over 2 years
=$388.50 per year
Outright once per year
$949 (Purchase Price)
+$0 (Verizon)
+$99 (Applecare)
-$476 (Gazelle)
=$572 per year
Apple Upgrade
$569.40 (12 month upgrade plan/lease @ $47.45/mo)
+$0 (Verizon)
+$0 (Applecare)
-$0 (Gazelle)
=$569.40 per year
So it costs me $180.90 per year extra to be on the latest and greatest instead of being on a two year cycle. Fucking peanuts in the world of cell phone TCO.
YMMV if you don't pick up Applecare for all your stuff (I do) and if you use a lower end phone (I don't).
LostMyNarbles
Member
The 6th generation iPod Touch has a newer and better CPU than the iPhone 5S, but other than that the 5S is overall better. If you don't need to upgrade you could always wait until next year and see what happens since they might release a smaller iPhone 7 alongside the other two models.I'm still rocking a 5C and I really have no problems at all. Except for that new Roller Coaster Tycoon game being the first game to not be compatible with my phone. I don't want to upgrade, I got an iPhone in part because I don't like big phones
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
So, if I already have an existing ATT account, I can just do the apple upgrade thing right and not even deal with att?
LostMyNarbles
Member
Yes you can just stay on your AT&T plan and upgrade your phone with Apple instead if you want.
The discounted monthly rate is through financing with AT&T NEXT or bringing your own device so if you buy a phone from Apple you'll still get that discount.
If you need to have the latest iPhone every year then Apple's plan is going to be the better bet, but it'll be more expensive than taking a longer upgrade path on an AT&T NEXT 24 month plan.
Yeah, I think I'm waiting. Worst case scenario, I buy a new iPod Touch for cheaper next year.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I just bought a 6 couple months ago but I need that rose gold
I don't understand how Verizons upgrade plan works anymore, didn't they get rid of subsidizing phones with their new "one plan"?
I just got on my sisters post paid plan (after being on verizon pre-paid) and I'm still using the Galaxy S6 that I paid for outright. How do I go about getting an "upgrade"?
RedNumberFive
Banned
Thanks for clearing this up. Much appreciated.
LostMyNarbles
Member
If you want a new phone you have two options. You can use Verizon's interest free financing program where they'll add a monthly payment onto your plan for 24 months until the phone is paid off or you can pay the full off-contract retail price for the phone and just add it to your account.
For instance an iPhone 6 16GB will add $27.08 per month to your plan for 24 months after of which you'll have paid about $650 for it which is the retail price. There's no contract so you can get a new phone whenever you want BUT you must pay off the current device first.
Do we know if Apple or any other carrier will be selling unlocked phones this time around?
ah, I thought I'd read 'regular 6' at some point. my mistake. Don't have any experience with the plus.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Pluses
- Camera seems like a real improvement the MP jump will be noticed on high resolution screens
- Faster WiFi is a bonus
- New chipset seems fast
Minuses
- Apple screwing 6S users out of OIS
- 1 GB of RAM rumor prexisting is a total boner killer
- Same design means camera hump
- Force touch seems like it could be iffy especially with one handed use
- 16 gig base BLOWS
- Camera seems like a real improvement the MP jump will be noticed on high resolution screens
- Faster WiFi is a bonus
- New chipset seems fast
Minuses
- Apple screwing 6S users out of OIS
- 1 GB of RAM rumor prexisting is a total boner killer
- Same design means camera hump
- Force touch seems like it could be iffy especially with one handed use
- 16 gig base BLOWS
Sir Abacus
Member
If you go on a two year contract for a subsidized upfront phone the line fee is $40 a month instead of $20 a month. Unless you're getting $480 worth of phone for free or an equivalent price difference it's cheaper over two years to source the phone yourself or go on installment plans.
So it's not that they got rid of it, just that they made the subsidized option completely fucking suck.
LostMyNarbles
Member
Apple usually sells a sim-free version which comes unlocked. The carrier versions are usually sold locked to their own networks, but that may vary. I know AT&T will unlock a phone for you if it's paid in full (IE if you buy the off-contract version for instance), and I thought T-Mobile did something like that.
Thanks for the answer.
Would Apple's upgrade plan or whatever they're calling it work the same way? Could I grab one of those for 40 bucks a month and connect it to my account and keep my unlimited?
LostMyNarbles
Member
Yes it shouldn't change anything at all. A lot of issues with keeping unlimited data appear when somebody tries to upgrade with a subsidized contract, but in the case of getting the phone with Apple the only thing you'll be doing is switching the sim card from your old phone to the new one.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
So basically pay off my iPhone 6 that's on the Edge program, upgrade to a 6S (also on the edge program or whatever it's now called) and then sell my iPhone 6 to recoup some or most of my "loss". Sounds like a plan.
Ok so my question, does the new iPhone typically go on sale / pre order on the ATT website the same time as the Apple Store website?
Damn, I bought a tpu iPhone 6 case on Amazon because it was on sale for $2, in anticipation of getting the 6s (currently on 5s), thinking that they wouldn't change the size. But according to the specs the 6s is 0.2mm thicker and taller, now this shit I bought probably won't fit.
FML
FML
DaleinCalgary
Member
Least interesting iPhone announcement ever
Stormwatch
Member
Verizon doesn't seem to have a lot of info on their payment plan system for upgrade. I have a 5S that I got with them the day it was released on a 2 year contract (subsidized). This means I am done with my contract and am eligible to get another phone. If I want to buy a 6S on their payment plan with the new no-contract phone plan do I have to turn in my 5S? It doesn't seem to make sense to have to turn in a phone that I just finished paying full price for.
CharminUltra
Member
Wait, so if the new mini is going to have the insides of the Air 2, does that include the 2GB of RAM as well?
If so, then looks like my current Mini is going to be meeting eBay soon.
If so, then looks like my current Mini is going to be meeting eBay soon.
LostMyNarbles
Member
It should. AT&T Announced that preorders will go live on Saturday at 3:00AM Eastern which is the same time Apple said their preorders will go live.
No you don't. Additionally if you have an old plan with subsidized contract you MAY be able to get another subsidized phone again. I believe Verizon only killed contracts for new customers so I'd recommend calling if you're interested in getting another subsidized device (But it'll probably have to be through Verizon's store).
BlueLiquid
Member
I'm on the Nexus 4 and can't wait to be rid of it. I'm just trying to decide which plan to use. I'll likely stick with AT&T but right now I'm on their GoPhone plan which perfectly suits my needs and is cheaper than any comparable contract plan. A few months ago I looked into it and getting a phone through AT&T on a comparable plan would cost an extra $5/month on top of the cost of the phone.
The fact that the phones that Apple Upgrade is offering come unlocked is tempting but I'm not crazy about the extra cost and having the latest and greatest every year is nice but not necessary. It does include AppleCare+ but I'm unsure if I need that or not.
DaveTheSnake
Member
I just got my first iPhone ever (6 plus) through T-Mobile's $15 a month Jump Program where you can get the 6s for the same price, and I already can't wait to upgrade. I'm hoping for 2GB of RAM. If not, I will manage.