Apple releases Safari 4 beta

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Top Sites, a display of frequently visited pages in a stunning wall of previews so users can jump to their favorite sites with a single click;
- Full History Search, where users search through titles, web addresses and the complete text of recently viewed pages to easily return to sites they've seen before;
- Cover Flow, to make searching web history or bookmarks as fun and easy as paging through album art in iTunes;
- Tabs on Top, for better tabbed browsing with easy drag-and-drop tab management tools and an intuitive button for opening new ones;
- Smart Address Field, that automatically completes web addresses by displaying an easy-to-read list of suggestions from Top Sites, bookmarks and browsing history;
- Smart Search Field, where users fine-tune searches with recommendations from Google Suggest or a list of recent searches;
- Full Page Zoom, for a closer look at any website without degrading the quality of the site's layout and text;
- Developer Tools - built-in web developer tools to debug, tweak and optimize a website for peak performance and compatibility; and
- Windows-native look in Safari for Windows, that uses standard Windows font rendering and native title bar, borders and toolbars so Safari fits the look and feel of other Windows XP and Windows Vista applications.
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I dropped the download link page since I think it was for the Mac version only and causing redirects within Windows. Just click the link at the top of the post and then hit the download button on the page

I've been using webkit nightlies for a while and am glad that the faster javascript engine is now available to more people in Safari. nice
 
Installed and playing with it now. Top Sites is kind of interesting, haven't messed with cover flow yet. Safari renders the screens a bit different, but it's very snappy so far for me.

Early verdict, I like it! :D
 
Using it right now. This is the best browser ever. As long as you don't need extensions, which I don't. I love the top sites and the new tabs. Everything feels much faster...
 
I can't install it. When I get to choose which partion I want to install it on, it says "You can't install Safari on this partion: ERROR_SEC" (but in French).

Anyone else experiencing problems?
 
sounds like it has a lot of chromes features added from the description. I'll try out the windows one tomorrow.
 
Yay no more horrible grey. It matches the look and feel of 7. I doubt I'll use it full time though I am just so used to firefox.
 
It's going to take me a bit to get use to the tabs being at the very top. I kind of liked them being where they were before, although it just may be that I need to adjust.
 
Can't wait to drop this on my MacBook when I get home. I've been using the WebKit nightlies and they're pretty damn fast. I'll probably stick with Chrome on the work machine though.
 
Hit the blue download button in the top right corner.

Anyone know what build this is? I'm assuming by the features that it's newer than the January 8th build?

Anyways, Safari 4 is sweet, if you haven't tried it yet. When I first got my Mac, I couldn't stand how slow Safari 3 was, but I missed the OS integration when I switched to Firefox 3. Safari 4 is blazing fast, plus it has OS integration! I can't wait to try out the new features.
 
Just tried it on Vista and my Mac, very cool.


Holeee shit CSS3 Web Font Support and looks like CSS3 support?

YES :D
 
Wow, this is fast as hell.

Gonna take a while to get used to tabs on the top. They're not as easily draggable anymore either, you gotta grab em from the tiny splitter-resizer thing.
 
Nander said:
I can't install it. When I get to choose which partion I want to install it on, it says "You can't install Safari on this partion: ERROR_SEC" (but in French).

Anyone else experiencing problems?
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Try installing the latest security update with Software Update.
 
Sean said:
Wow, this is fast as hell.

Gonna take a while to get used to tabs on the top. They're not as easily draggable anymore either, you gotta grab em from the tiny splitter-resizer thing.
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man, I was just gonna post this. I know they need to make the whole window draggable by the title bar, but it sucks that i have a smaller target when i want to drag tabs. boo!

assisted google search with suggestions, top sites (i know, i know. opera already does this) and coverflow in history window are pretty nice and useful additions.
 
megashock5 said:
Is it gone? The link in the OP now redirects to the top of apple.com
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yeah, i removed the DL link since it was kinda screwy. just hit up the Safari info page linked in the OP link and then click on download.
 
D4Danger said:
Can someone using it on Vista or 7 post a screenshot?
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tamy2o.jpg
 
another interface bitch:

if i'm on a webpage and click on "top sites" button, then change my mind and want to go back to the page i was looking at, re-clicking on the top sites button does nothing. instead, i have to use the back button on the toolbar.

the top sites button should act like the bookmarks button right next to it. hit it once to go to top sites, and once more to return to the page you were at.

tsk, tsk. Inconsistent UI behaviour. Bad Apple.
 
VOOK said:
http://i43.tinypic.com/tamy2o.jpg
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That looks really nice. I've been kinda unhappy with FF3 and I don't want to use IE.

I may give this a go now it doesn't look like shit.
 
Anyone notice the list of CSS upgrades and CSS3 things on the features page?
 
LCfiner said:
another interface bitch:

if i'm on a webpage and click on "top sites" button, then change my mind and want to go back to the page i was looking at, re-clicking on the top sites button does nothing. instead, i have to use the back button on the toolbar.

the top sites button should act like the bookmarks button right next to it. hit it once to go to top sites, and once more to return to the page you were at.

tsk, tsk. Inconsistent UI behaviour. Bad Apple.
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Yep, I was thinking the exact same thing. Overall this is great, but it has a few things to get use to. I'm glad I'm not the only one that isn't digging the tabs on top arrangement.

Is there more multitouch gesture support in this version?
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Yep, I was thinking the exact same thing. Overall this is great, but it has a few things to get use to. I'm glad I'm not the only one that isn't digging the tabs on top arrangement.

Is there more multitouch gesture support in this version?
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apparently so. native three finger swiping (up/ down) for forward/ back navigation in addition to the old two finger scrolling and pinch/zoom.

I've been using multiclutch for the three finger stuff but it's nice that it's built in now.
 
Revolutionary said:
:lol
There has to be, though - the damn thing is so buggy when paired with Aero (especially if you enable that iTunes toolbar).

Oh, and does the gif on this page come out fucked up for anyone else on Safari 4?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=339164&page=36
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that little gif crashed safari 4.

so it looks like the safari team changed the way gifs load. instead of having gifs load slow as shit they just said: fuck it and bail.

sigh... looks like Camino/Firefox are still my go to NPD thread browsers.
 
Thanks to the enhanced keyboard navigation options in Safari, you can navigate the web without a mouse. Press the Tab key, and Safari jumps to the next password field, pop-up menu, or input field. For increased keyboard control, you can hold down the Option key while tabbing to have Safari skip through every link on the page. And if you press the Return key, Safari opens the highlighted link, letting you “point and click” with just a few keystrokes.
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:lol Groundbreaking stuff there.

But seriously, looks like an awesome update. I use safari exclusively on my mac, I will grab this.
 
LCfiner said:
yup, it now supports CSS animation as per the iPhone and webkit nightlies

demo page
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Wow that's pretty nice, the font stuff interests me more then animations but hey better then Flash.

I want to be a web designer in 10 years, not now :(
 
LCfiner said:
that little gif crashed safari 4.

so it looks like the safari team changed the way gifs load. instead of having gifs load slow as shit they just said: fuck it and bail.

sigh... looks like Camino/Firefox are still my go to NPD thread browsers.
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:lol
When it finally loaded for me, it was full of artifacting, but no crash.

Eh - it is a beta...
But yeah... I'll give this another go when it's more "ready" for taking over for FF.
 
So glad this and Firefox 3.1 are happening.

I love the new smart search and address bar (very much like Firefox 3, yes) but I will probably still prefer the Inquisitor InputManager plugin. Also I still want adblocking (I use Saft) but it sounds like this is a pretty big leap forward). I hate using InputManagers because they suck so hopefully Apple will keep improving this pretty rapidly.
 
Installed. It seems a bit speedier. The tabs-on-top are a little frustrating. I'm not sure how long it'll take me to adjust to that. Is there a way to disable the Top Sites screen from coming up first?

Animated GIFs play properly now! :O
 
I have the same little complaints as you guys: Top Sites not being a toggle and hard to drag tabs. Also, it looks silly on OS X when the tab on the left contains the three title bar lights. I don't really understand that one.

How fast is this on Windows? I use Chrome there and Firefox for development, but I'll switch to Safari/Firefox if Safari is finally fast due to using the standard UI. That fake Apple UI in old versions was atrocious and slow.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I have the same little complaints as you guys: Top Sites not being a toggle and hard to drag tabs. Also, it looks silly on OS X when the tab on the left contains the three title bar lights. I don't really understand that one.

How fast is this on Windows? I use Chrome there and Firefox for development, but I'll switch to Safari/Firefox if Safari is finally fast due to using the standard UI. That fake Apple UI in old versions was atrocious and slow.
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It's pretty fast, about the same as Chrome.
 
I found a problem. If I start to type "neo" it will show NeoGAF but if I type "gaf" it finds nothing :(

I like the way firefox does it.
 
To answer my own earlier question:

The last Safari 4 Developer's Preview Build released January 8th was build 5528.1. The Beta is 5528.16. Wow at the changes!
 
The Top Sites is growing on me but the tabs are not.

My biggest complaint is that they did away with the blue progress meter that appeared behind the address field when pages load! Now there's no indicator of progress except a stupid spinning wheel that tells you next to nothing! >:(
 
Very interesting that Apple decided to go with the tabs in the title bar... I wonder if this is a Safari-specific thing or if this is going to be their take on MDI across other apps.
 
ckohler said:
My biggest complaint is that they did away with the blue progress meter that appeared behind the address field when pages load! Now there's no indicator of progress except a stupid spinning wheel that tells you next to nothing! >:(
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Good point, I hadn't noticed that. The address loading bar was one of Safari's great features.

I think this may be a hint at how they're ditching Aqua in Snow Leopard, and things like that big bright bar just aren't to their liking anymore.
 
D4Danger said:
I found a problem. If I start to type "neo" it will show NeoGAF but if I type "gaf" it finds nothing :(

I like the way firefox does it.
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Hopefully that'll get fixed by the final release, along with some of the other niggling issues (no toggle on the Top Pages thing especially).
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Good point, I hadn't noticed that. The address loading bar was one of Safari's great features.

I think this may be a hint at how they're ditching Aqua in Snow Leopard, and things like that big bright bar just aren't to their liking anymore.
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It's still listed on the Safari features page - I'd be pissed if they took that out because I like it a great deal too.
 
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