Buggy Loop
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Interesting interview with Palmer.
A very good overview
That’s why I bought two.Seems cheap, why not $7999?
Because it's an apple product! Just like a switch you buy it for the brand then you let it collect dustI just don't get why you would spend this much money on something you'll probably use a handful of times
Well, its not for you obviously.I just don't get why you would spend this much money on something you'll probably use a handful of times
I'd probably use it a lot, but unless it can replace my Windows PC, Linux PC and 3 Macs, I don't think it's going to be worth it. What I mean is that if it can consolidate my machines down to fewer or at least have desktop mode for as many desktops as you want, then I can see myself jumping in even at the current price.I just don't get why you would spend this much money on something you'll probably use a handful of times
I thought the same as well but people that have tried it have started to say it’s pretty good value for money as you can have loads of high resolution micro oled virtual monitors surrounding you.Seems cheap, why not $7999?
All I saw so far seems to be the same than Quest 3, which is way cheaper. I'm working on a VR game prototype but remotely, and visited the office to test the prototype which I played in Quest 2 and 3.I thought the same as well but people that have tried it have started to say it’s pretty good value for money as you can have loads of high resolution micro oled virtual monitors surrounding you.
Would it be bad for your eyes to stare into this while working all day for example?
I'd probably use it a lot, but unless it can replace my Windows PC, Linux PC and 3 Macs, I don't think it's going to be worth it. What I mean is that if it can consolidate my machines down to fewer or at least have desktop mode for as many desktops as you want, then I can see myself jumping in even at the current price.
Expensive, good all around.I;m too lazy to check whats going on with Apple VR. Whats the previews say so far? Great? Good? Shit?
Interesting interview with Palmer.
I'm sure moonlight will come to it. as it stands, i play my gaming pc mainly through my main mac at 120fps which is an M1 mini. Very good low energy platform for day-to-day tasks and streaming.Eh. Battery lasts 2 hours.
It’ll most probably be Mac only, when it comes to extending your PC.
If your use case requires a locked down platform with only mobile tier gaming, then yeah.
Sony's the only company on the planet that can even half manufacture these displays in limited quantities and Apple has prebought every ounce of their capacity for years to come. Even Samsung and LG are years behind Sony on mass producing micro oleds. You will not see competitive products for like 3 years.All I saw so far seems to be the same than Quest 3, which is way cheaper. I'm working on a VR game prototype but remotely, and visited the office to test the prototype which I played in Quest 2 and 3.
The AR thing and hand tracking of that bitch is flawless, and the image quality is miles ahead of what I played in the past (PSVR1, Oculus Quest, Vive).
Not sure if there's going to be a noticiable difference or anything new that justifies to pay that big difference in price. I think it's goingt the same that happened using Windows vs MacOs on PC or iPhone vs Android in phones or tablets, where you often find better hardware and software in the non-Apple brand at a way better price.
Most likely staring at your cellphone/monitor is way more harmful to your eyes than using any headset. Due to the stereoscopic nature your eyes constantly change focus like in real life instead of being fixed in a single spot. Even reading books can develop myopia.Would it be bad for your eyes to stare into this while working all day for example?
The bigger picture is never buy a first gen Apple deviceEveryone is so affixed on the price point that they are simply missing the bigger picture here.
It's a luxury beta test. I'm sure the plan is to get the price down. It's brand new tech.At $3499 this will obviously be a niche of niche product. Considering how niche VR already is I don't understand Apple's strategy here with this uber expensive VR device.
Waiting for the games and NOT quest 2/3 ports
What’s the big picture? I don’t think even Apple has thought it throughEveryone is so affixed on the price point that they are simply missing the bigger picture here.
Given that it's bascially an iPad Pro for your face, the pricing is quite similar. That starts at a miserable 128GB, but then it's 'only' an extra $100 to go to 256GB, and another $200 to go to 512GB, etc.Even taking into account certain skus subsidising the wider platform, their markups are insane, charging $200 for an extra 256GB of storage, then another $200 for an extra 512GB on top of that. A consumer can buy 1TB of the fastest NVMe storage in the world for the price of that first 256GB upgrade.
Given that they were already charging $400 to switch out ~$40 worth of RAM for ~$80 worth of RAM (on the BoM) in the MacBooks; I guess it's not surprising.
Seems odd to offer a "budget" 256GB option when you're already forking out $3.5K to begin with. Would that many folks really wanna gimp themselves on such a big purchase? 512GB-1TB should be standard then a 2TB premium option.
$3499 512GB & $3799 2TB
Half the population walks around with airpods in their ears. Zoomers wear them 24/7. Apple entering the VR/AR space means that in 5 years we'll probably have headsets the size of eye glasses that people will upgrade every year regardless of cost.There is no future where everyone wears VR headsets
Your dreaming.Half the population walks around with airpods in their ears. Zoomers wear them 24/7. Apple entering the VR/AR space means that in 5 years we'll probably have headsets the size of eye glasses that people will upgrade every year regardless of cost.
Economics is way differet now.Half the population walks around with airpods in their ears. Zoomers wear them 24/7. Apple entering the VR/AR space means that in 5 years we'll probably have headsets the size of eye glasses that people will upgrade every year regardless of cost.
It's so whack they have a £3499 version with 256gb storage, then the £3699 with actual decent storage space. Is it really worth having a whole other SKU for a 8% cheaper hobbled version of a luxury device.
It’s not a VR headset. Vision Pro is not the same thing as Meta Quest or the other headsets.At $3499 this will obviously be a niche of niche product. Considering how niche VR already is I don't understand Apple's strategy here with this uber expensive VR device.
It also contains a M2 pro. It's not some cheap mobile chip. It's like strapping a MacBook Pro to your face with the best goggle tech.It’s not a VR headset. Vision Pro is not the same thing as Meta Quest or the other headsets.
It may share similarities with those headsets but it’s not the same thing. The thing closest would be that headset Sony announced at CES.
I bought one.Do we have a single person on GAF who has said they will get one? I am probably the biggest Apple geek here, bought pretty much every Apple product since iMax (yes even iPod Hi-Fi) but I still can’t muster excitement for this.
I just don’t know what to use it for. It will be too sweaty and short battery life for work stuff. 3D photos are cool but not for that price. Movies, well on an airplane this would be cool, but it’s enormous to carry onboard.
Will try to book a test in LA in March to build conviction.
It’s not a VR headset. Vision Pro is not the same thing as Meta Quest or the other headsets.
It may share similarities with those headsets but it’s not the same thing. The thing closest would be that headset Sony announced at CES.