Frank Serpico
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But just like Google now and soon to be released Cortana on iOS, unless apple allows it to have system wide integration it will always be gimped, hence always giving the advantage to Apple Watch
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Apple Watch |OT| Apple invents the watch!
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But just like Google now and soon to be released Cortana on iOS, unless apple allows it to have system wide integration it will always be gimped, hence always giving the advantage to Apple Watch
It's in development; don't think it was announced today but of course was rumored to be.
Certainly; but it's competition.
Frank Serpico
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I agree, competition is best for consumers, just unfortunate iOS users couldn't have a true android wear experience
It's one of things that irks me about iOS in general; if Apple doesn't have a comprehensive "Internet of Things" solution and / or open up more underlying API's / what can run in the background I will some day switch to Android.
There's some random combos here (throughout the thread it looks like):
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1873933
Looks fine to me but just depends on your tastes. The main issue isn't the colors themselves (they're a color contrast with every watch) but the little metal accent pieces, they're silver on pretty much everything but the black sport band. On the ones with lugs they're right on the watch and look weird, but on others like the sport bands and leather loops it's a pretty minor thing (...but I'd still like a black pin for the white sport band for mine).
Hmmm... thanks. The blue and red both look pretty good with the space grey. Same with the blue leather loop.
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Deleted member 22576
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I'm really feeling how exquisitely dope my watch looks.
Its crazy. The modern buckel looks flawless.
Its crazy. The modern buckel looks flawless.
GreatMightySymp
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My SS Milanese got bumped up a week, still in processing though, says June 16-22 now.
I got a bump up now. I'm now shipping in 2-3 weeks. 17 June to 22 June. 42" Space Grey Sport.
Wrestlemania
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I got a blue leather loop to go with my space grey sport today. Looks great.
everthustodeadbeats
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Very happy not to have a 'true android wear experience'. Bring it with iOS or don't bring it at all.
infiniteloop
Member
So extended warranty... square trade or AppleCare+?
ST is $79 for 2 years, $99 per claim.
AC is $79 for 2 years, $79 per claim, up to 2.
ST is $79 for 2 years, $99 per claim.
AC is $79 for 2 years, $79 per claim, up to 2.
How good/bad is your luck with electronics, and do you have an Apple Store nearby?
The Elite
BOSS
You won't get an email until it ships.
infiniteloop
Member
It's been very good... until I dropped my iPhone 6 a month ago and shattered the glass. I'd rather just pay the $79 and be covered than pay ~$500 if something happens to it.
A watch is almost always strapped to your wrist, what's the worst that can possibly happen? I only buy AppleCare on my Macs where it often costs hundreds of dollars to repair.
I shattered my iPhone 6 display a few months ago and was charged $109 and had it fixed within an hour. My understanding is that the exact same repair would've cost $179 if I had insurance ($99 for AppleCare+ and a $79 service fee) so it'd end up costing more. I don't think insurance is worth it in most cases.
Depends on where it ships from. My first watch at launch arrived the next day when it shipped from PA, but I've just had one shipped from China that says 3 days.
Frank Serpico
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I just got charged! Ordered Apple Watch SS 42mm BSB on April 30
It's been one hell of long wait folks
It's been one hell of long wait folks
Yup. Almost 2 months for me. Ordered the afternoon of April 10th.
Frank Serpico
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What did your order?
Go onto your Apple Support Profile and see the actual Watch Apple have now assigned to you.
http://supportprofile.apple.com
Frank Serpico
Banned
Edit: never mind, I see
exciting, just two days away now
I assume the picture of the link watch is the just a placeholder
SuperPac
Member
Between the time you're charged and it ships the serial number of the watch that's actually coming to you will appear on your support profile page.
Frank Serpico
Banned
I was happy to see it there, according to UPS early delivery is Monday and scheduled delivery is Tuesday. I have my leather loop and Milanese bands waiting
42mm Medium Black Leather Loop
I received my blue leather loop yesterday and my watch should arrive Monday but I've noticed that the leather loop can be pulled apart easily.
Is it more secure when attached to the watch and worn around the wrist?
It feels as if it caught on something the watch would come off the wrist easily.
Is it more secure when attached to the watch and worn around the wrist?
It feels as if it caught on something the watch would come off the wrist easily.
Frank Serpico
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You were better off just ordering that as an extra band, I got it weeks ago
Yeah, I wish I would have known that at the time. Already received the extra black sport band I ordered for it. There's seems to be no rhyme or reason with this launch.
Chittagong
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Loving my Apple Watch with link bracelet, had one since launch. But man, I think this product is bombing. From me and my wife aside, the only one with an Apple Watch I know is a guy making games for it. I have not seen a single Apple Watch in the wild in a month in London. It'd be easy to put it down to supply constraints, if it wasn't for the lack of enthusiasm from all the people seeing mine, quite markedly different than when I got my first iPad. The only person who has expressed any interest to get one in the last month is my turkish barber.
Let's hope native apps turn it around, and that Apple sticks to it. I'd hate to see it go the way of Apple TV, demoted to a 'hobby'. Hopefully this is just the beginning and Apple has some excitement in the pipeline.
Let's hope native apps turn it around, and that Apple sticks to it. I'd hate to see it go the way of Apple TV, demoted to a 'hobby'. Hopefully this is just the beginning and Apple has some excitement in the pipeline.
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I work at an Art Store in a pretty yuppy county and have maybe one person a day ask me about it. I think the interest is definitely there.
Mostly just curiousity, how's the battery life, do I like it, etc. using it for apple pay seems to catch people's attention too.
I thinking bombing is a little strong, I do see other people with them. I see lots of pebbles and moto360s too. I think it's much different than an iPad or an iPhone. It's not for everyone in the way than an iOS device is.
There is basically no way in hell this gets demoted to a hobby. There a lot of work to be done, sure, but I think it's been as successful a launch as you could expect. The supply constraints were/are annoying as hell but the thing itself is awesome and there's little negativity about it.
Mostly just curiousity, how's the battery life, do I like it, etc. using it for apple pay seems to catch people's attention too.
I thinking bombing is a little strong, I do see other people with them. I see lots of pebbles and moto360s too. I think it's much different than an iPad or an iPhone. It's not for everyone in the way than an iOS device is.
There is basically no way in hell this gets demoted to a hobby. There a lot of work to be done, sure, but I think it's been as successful a launch as you could expect. The supply constraints were/are annoying as hell but the thing itself is awesome and there's little negativity about it.
LyleLanley
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I think it's way too early to call it a bomb. We need to wait until people can purchase them in store.
Frank Serpico
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Right, but production seems to be ramping up so in a month I expect them to be in stores
Chittagong
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The main problem, I think, is that the benefits of having an Apple Watch are just really hard to explain briefly. iPad was great for browsing the web, emails, films and games in home and when travelling. Apple Watch is much more nuanced.
It's awesome to have one to get notifications instantly, but you need to experience it first hand to appreciate it. Walking navigation is a real revelation, but when explained it doesn't sound that unique. Shopping lists are awesome, but few will get the product for lists. Fitness is kind of neat, but not really as good as many fitness products. Seeing the next event, temperature, date and time in a flick of a wrist is awesome, but most people think it's easy enough to pull out your phone.
Apple Watch is kind of like Live Tiles on Windows Phone. Immensely useful and an experience you'll miss when going back to an icon grid, but not something that will get people buy Lumias.
If Apple Watch is to succeed it will be a slow burn of people gradually coverting based on seeing some and hearing good things about it. I would assume it has a solid Net Promoter Score, so that should help.
It's awesome to have one to get notifications instantly, but you need to experience it first hand to appreciate it. Walking navigation is a real revelation, but when explained it doesn't sound that unique. Shopping lists are awesome, but few will get the product for lists. Fitness is kind of neat, but not really as good as many fitness products. Seeing the next event, temperature, date and time in a flick of a wrist is awesome, but most people think it's easy enough to pull out your phone.
Apple Watch is kind of like Live Tiles on Windows Phone. Immensely useful and an experience you'll miss when going back to an icon grid, but not something that will get people buy Lumias.
If Apple Watch is to succeed it will be a slow burn of people gradually coverting based on seeing some and hearing good things about it. I would assume it has a solid Net Promoter Score, so that should help.
I'm also in London and only know one person with an Apple Watch and haven't seen any in the wild yet.
I don't know if native apps will make a difference. Maybe new specific killer apps. But 'native apps' as a whole are only aware of by people like us, true enthusiasts that know what they are. A regular iPhone user wouldn't know (or care) about whether apps ran from the iPhone or natively on the Watch.
The thing is right now 3rd party apps for the Watch are incredibly restricted in terms of how they can be structured, limited available inputs, and the forced phone round trip introducing lag. There is an inherent clunkiness built into 3rd party apps as a result.
You are right the average joe isn't going to know or care where Watch apps run natively. But once native apps arrive, I think we'll see higher quality, more elegant and usable, more innovative apps as a result, and that much improved experience and utility might help more people take notice.
I think the thing is that even with whatever improved qualities to the apps there's still the inherent UX limitations of a tiny screen on your wrist, there's only so much that you'll actually want to do on there. Ultimately you still want quick interactions, which is where the native apps (hopefully) come in big, cause one of the biggest issues now is the performance making things...not so quick.
But that limited usage model is why it's kind of a hard sell in the first place, native apps will do it better but it's still serving the same purpose. It's fighting against the whole "but my phone can already do it and more" mentality when people don't understand the impact of the form factor and usage in action. The commercials show it off a bit here and there like a person already doing stuff when a message/call comes in and they handle it simply and quickly, but seems like they also spend a bunch of time on other stuff that ends up looking awkward, like "stand now dammit, obey the watch!"
Anyway I'm hoping another thing coming from native apps is more phone independence like the recent Android Wear update, where it can be alone on whatever wifi remotely from the phone and still keep in sync (and do stuff on its own of course). And an always on mode but I don't really expect that.
Frank Serpico
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First new product since the iPad, gigantic marketing push, it's safe to say apple isn't treating this as Apple TV
infiniteloop
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Yeah, i hope it allows for the native apps like Mail to work on their own rather than be a really from the phone.
(42 SS BSB)Dreamwriter
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A regular iPhone user will care that the apps they like to use can now use the Digital Crown for more than just scrolling single full-screen lists, can now detect motion (moving your hand, turning your wrist), can use force-touch for more than just displaying an overlay menu of 2 to 4 buttons, can play sounds, will react immediately to any button press, can be configured more intuitively than the old Watchkit SDK allows. Speaking as a developer, the current non-native system is incredibly restrictive as to what we can do with our apps.
An example of a simple app improvement: I wrote a Watch app which displays the game- time in the MMO Final Fantasy XIV in large numbers taking about 1/3 of the screen, along with a scrolling schedule of things that can be done at different times. But Watchkit forces you to scroll everything on the screen, you can't just scroll the list without also scrolling the time. So if you look down in the list, you can't see the time anymore. As a native app, I could leave the time always at the top with the scrolling schedule underneath it.
Native apps will be able to be much higher quality than what we have now. They will also have a higher chance of using more battery life, but my 42mm watch never goes below 40% as it is.
Oh yeah. 👆🏾Everything you wrote makes perfect sense. Definitely.
But I don't think the average person on the street, iPhone user, is aware of a difference between Native apps and apps running off the iPhone. They don't know that a difference exists. I don't believe the current inability of 3rd party apps to run natively is what is determining the sales of the Apple Watch at this moment.
But I don't think the average person on the street, iPhone user, is aware of a difference between Native apps and apps running off the iPhone. They don't know that a difference exists. I don't believe the current inability of 3rd party apps to run natively is what is determining the sales of the Apple Watch at this moment.