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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

Well the analyst position was a no. There were 5 spots to be filled from 16 candidates and the recruiter said I was 6th/7th among them. Still waiting to hear back on the tax job. Should get an e-mail today or tomorrow.

For now, I man checkouts.

And I shall continue to man checkouts. Failed at the final interview stage for the accountancy job. I'd been pursuing the role for 4 months, through two interviews, an assessment centre, and online tests. Fuck me.
 

Marcus

Member
This.

If they want to fire you tomorrow, they will do it in heartbeat and won't care about how you "FEEL". If you have made close friends and your manager is like your go to buddy then I understand you might care for them. But even then, they all know that at the end everyone will do what is better for them. You manager would do the same. No one should have heard feeling about this.

So if you think new job is good, and its worth it for you. Then just quit when your clearance is passed. By then keep working and making money.

So, the company finally came back with an offer. the pay is a bit higher and its closer to where i live so commute wont be as bad. definitely think im going to accept this offer. however, im not sure how to leave my current company gracefully?
 

FiggyCal

Banned
I'm so disappointed in myself. I've been trying to get an internship forever now, but it looks like that won't be happening. I really just need a job at this point.
 
Had a phone interview and two in person interviews at a great company where I would have been making much more than my current job, and I didn't get the job. :/ oh well, back to my shit job in thirty minutes and back to applying at new places of work after. It's easy to get down on yourself, but those who stay positive will always prevail.

same. i didn't get a call back after the interview. oh well.
 

-Plasma Reus-

Service guarantees member status
I have been offered a job that pays slightly more than the one I am currently in.
The one I am in currently has some great perks, I get to work from home 3 days a week, and am pretty much left to myself to do things and work things out. The people are also quite nice. I feel like it's the kind of place where I can learn new things easily. This company is quite old an redundancies won't come for a while (they've just trimmed it to bits).

The new one pays slightly more, and by the end of the year would pay me £8000 more per annum. (*I have just read on the contract that it is contingent on some things and is not necessarily a guaranteed*), but definitely will pay £5000 more by the end of a few months probation.
This company is quite young, and I am uncertain as to how secure it is job wise.

I am, at the moment, considering refusing the job offer. I want to continue to learn new things, and feel confident enough to apply for higher rate jobs in a years time. I was initially expecting to get a salary including £8000 as a starter, and that's kind of been pushed to the back.

If I didn't have my current job, I'd be all over it. But am I doing the right thing in being more patient?
 
I have been offered a job that pays slightly more than the one I am currently in.
The one I am in currently has some great perks, I get to work from home 3 days a week, and am pretty much left to myself to do things and work things out. The people are also quite nice. I feel like it's the kind of place where I can learn new things easily. This company is quite old an redundancies won't come for a while (they've just trimmed it to bits).

The new one pays slightly more, and by the end of the year would pay me £8000 more per annum. (*I have just read on the contract that it is contingent on some things and is not necessarily a guaranteed*), but definitely will pay £5000 more by the end of a few months probation.
This company is quite young, and I am uncertain as to how secure it is job wise.

I am, at the moment, considering refusing the job offer. I want to continue to learn new things, and feel confident enough to apply for higher rate jobs in a years time. I was initially expecting to get a salary including £8000 as a starter, and that's kind of been pushed to the back.

If I didn't have my current job, I'd be all over it. But am I doing the right thing in being more patient?

Donot chase money. if you have it good now, dont make the mistake of dropping it for more money. You can not put a price on being able to work from home 3 days a week, and to be left alone and not micro managed. Money means nothing.
 
Donot chase money. if you have it good now, dont make the mistake of dropping it for more money. You can not put a price on being able to work from home 3 days a week, and to be left alone and not micro managed. Money means nothing.

I agree, also keep in mind that 5k or 8k could well be before tax. After tax that suddenly doesn't sound so attractive.
Depending on the situation in your current job you could ask for a raise?
 

meowmixer

Neo Member
I feel all of your pain. I'm 30 now and just finished a degree in marketing and management last year. It was a nightmare paying for it, I had to work two jobs and racked up tons of debt, around $80k. And yet with it I still can't find a decent job. I thought maybe I just wasn't competitive without an MBA so I dropped another 20k on a masters. Here I am 13 months later with some 2000+ applications, around 60 interviews and no job offers. I've applied to internships, assistant positions, associate, everything.

I know my resume is good. I went over it with my business professors, old managers and friends. I submitted it to career services and even hired a resume writing service. I feel good about interviews and got good scores on practice interviews and positive feedback from recruiters. And yet the automated rejection letters just keep coming. If I hear anything back at all. After awhile they just become heartbreaking.

I just felt like crying today filling out some stupid 30 minute multiple choice test on an application. If the average application takes about 20 minutes making you fill out all your resume info by hand into their little boxes, then I've spent 42000 minutes, some 700 hours filling out applications. I just feel worthless. I just don't know what I am doing wrong. I always politely ask why if I get a rejection. Only two recruiters responded, one said they hired an internal candidate the other said they hired an intern. Maybe business is just an awful degree? Who knew?

It is so hard to not think it is your fault. My resume must work if I've gotten some interviews. And I've gotten a handful of second interviews, so I must be interviewing well. Every low end retail job I ever interviewed for I got on the spot. Corporate jobs seem to be different. Most require 4-5 interviews to get the job. Hertz rent-a-car wanted 5.

It just feels hopeless. I finally had to get some shitty retail job to pay the bills and it feels like I did it all this shit for nothing. So everyone out there suffering through it, it isn't just you.
 

rower

Neo Member
Here's my story.
Well, I totally agree that the searching for a new job is terrible experience.
It took me about a year to finally found one. I’ve sent more than 300 applications, got 8 phones back which turned into 5 interviews. I’m engineer, electrician, but my current job is something different.
My last interview was a success. Funny thing is that in my opinion, it was my worst one. I still cannot believe that I got it. I came couple minutes late, day after girl broke up with me so I wasn’t in good shape… There were 4 people: 2 women from HR and 2 engineers. First, some question from HR’s like why I want to change my current job, something about me, languages and programs I know; most common questions. Then one of the engineers asked me about some technical stuff, my experience etc. And honestly I didn’t do a good impression, I had to say many times “I don’t know”. He told me that I’ll have to learn many things. My response: I know, and I’m ready for it, that’s why I want this job. At this moment I felt like I had no chance to get this job, both engineers looked bored (one did not even ask me a single question). I just wanted to leave: “do you have any question you would like to ask? – umm, no – ok so it’s all, we’ll give you response till Friday.” Well they didn’t call so I’ve already gave up the hope. But they called yesterday: they want me!, I’ll start right after New Year. I still don’t know how the hell this happened. Last night I couldn’t sleep, so many emotions right now: excitement mixed with fear…
 

Assanova

Member
I feel all of your pain. I'm 30 now and just finished a degree in marketing and management last year. It was a nightmare paying for it, I had to work two jobs and racked up tons of debt, around $80k. And yet with it I still can't find a decent job. I thought maybe I just wasn't competitive without an MBA so I dropped another 20k on a masters. Here I am 13 months later with some 2000+ applications, around 60 interviews and no job offers. I've applied to internships, assistant positions, associate, everything.

I know my resume is good. I went over it with my business professors, old managers and friends. I submitted it to career services and even hired a resume writing service. I feel good about interviews and got good scores on practice interviews and positive feedback from recruiters. And yet the automated rejection letters just keep coming. If I hear anything back at all. After awhile they just become heartbreaking.

I just felt like crying today filling out some stupid 30 minute multiple choice test on an application. If the average application takes about 20 minutes making you fill out all your resume info by hand into their little boxes, then I've spent 42000 minutes, some 700 hours filling out applications. I just feel worthless. I just don't know what I am doing wrong. I always politely ask why if I get a rejection. Only two recruiters responded, one said they hired an internal candidate the other said they hired an intern. Maybe business is just an awful degree? Who knew?

It is so hard to not think it is your fault. My resume must work if I've gotten some interviews. And I've gotten a handful of second interviews, so I must be interviewing well. Every low end retail job I ever interviewed for I got on the spot. Corporate jobs seem to be different. Most require 4-5 interviews to get the job. Hertz rent-a-car wanted 5.

It just feels hopeless. I finally had to get some shitty retail job to pay the bills and it feels like I did it all this shit for nothing. So everyone out there suffering through it, it isn't just you.

My girlfriend and aunt have pretty high degrees, and have worked high up in companies. More or less, unless you have some type of technical degree, it's about who you know and networking. I wish they would have emphasized that more in college. Also, with an MBA, unless you went to a competitive program, or know how to network well, it really isn't worth the cost, or at least that is my understanding from the research I've done.

If you haven't networked, then I highly recommend taking the low level job. My girlfriend said that the reason she got her first 100k per year job was because she took the low level job and worked her way up. My other aunt pretty much said it was the same thing for her, and she has degrees from Ivy league schools.
 

Sanic

Member
I feel all of your pain. I'm 30 now and just finished a degree in marketing and management last year. It was a nightmare paying for it, I had to work two jobs and racked up tons of debt, around $80k. And yet with it I still can't find a decent job. I thought maybe I just wasn't competitive without an MBA so I dropped another 20k on a masters. Here I am 13 months later with some 2000+ applications, around 60 interviews and no job offers. I've applied to internships, assistant positions, associate, everything.

I know my resume is good. I went over it with my business professors, old managers and friends. I submitted it to career services and even hired a resume writing service. I feel good about interviews and got good scores on practice interviews and positive feedback from recruiters. And yet the automated rejection letters just keep coming. If I hear anything back at all. After awhile they just become heartbreaking.

I just felt like crying today filling out some stupid 30 minute multiple choice test on an application. If the average application takes about 20 minutes making you fill out all your resume info by hand into their little boxes, then I've spent 42000 minutes, some 700 hours filling out applications. I just feel worthless. I just don't know what I am doing wrong. I always politely ask why if I get a rejection. Only two recruiters responded, one said they hired an internal candidate the other said they hired an intern. Maybe business is just an awful degree? Who knew?

It is so hard to not think it is your fault. My resume must work if I've gotten some interviews. And I've gotten a handful of second interviews, so I must be interviewing well. Every low end retail job I ever interviewed for I got on the spot. Corporate jobs seem to be different. Most require 4-5 interviews to get the job. Hertz rent-a-car wanted 5.

It just feels hopeless. I finally had to get some shitty retail job to pay the bills and it feels like I did it all this shit for nothing. So everyone out there suffering through it, it isn't just you.

What kind of professional experience (if any) did you have during or prior to getting your degrees? Did you do any internships?

One potential issue from an employer's perspective is that you are now 30+ years old with two degrees looking for the same type of jobs as a 22 y/o who just finished their undergrad. They expect you to command a higher salary, so who do you think they would hire between the two?
 
I'm trying to help my friend get a job back over in the U.S. It's been terrible for her.

She went to college for animation in the U.S. but couldn't find work after graduation and had to move back to South Africa. It's even tougher to find potential positions now that she's not local and no companies seem to want to shell out to sponsor a work visa. She applied like crazy when she was over here but no dice. With the Ebola outbreak she's close to danger as well and wants to get out before it gets any closer to her location.

Are there any organizations that help foreigners get jobs in the states, or help find companies that have no problem sponsoring visas? She was educated here and it sucks to see her struggle to get back. Any advice is appreciated.
 

meowmixer

Neo Member
What kind of professional experience (if any) did you have during or prior to getting your degrees? Did you do any internships?

One potential issue from an employer's perspective is that you are now 30+ years old with two degrees looking for the same type of jobs as a 22 y/o who just finished their undergrad. They expect you to command a higher salary, so who do you think they would hire between the two?

Mostly I've been trying to break into brand marketing which most job postings for brand managers require, or at minimum at least state a preference for the MBA. So it should be necessary at least in my line of work.
I have some manager experience in retail but nothing beyond that. All the corporate jobs always required degrees I didn't have. I applied to tons of internships but nothing panned out.
The average age of graduating undergrads is 25 and MBA's is 30, so I don't feel I am behind in that way and my age shouldn't be apparent on my resume. I've tried creating "recent grad" versions of my resume with all my work experience taken off but it hasn't proven any more successful.

It can be frustrating as hell to hear people be like "oh I applied to 10 jobs, got 8 interviews and 5 offers." It helps to read this thread because for awhile I was feeling like I was the only one going through this. It just ravishes your ego and feeling of self-worth. Having to deal with rude customers at walmart for minimum wage after all the hard work I went through and then I get to just apply to more jobs when I get home and I feel guilty if I do anything else.
 

Darren870

Member
I'm trying to help my friend get a job back over in the U.S. It's been terrible for her.

She went to college for animation in the U.S. but couldn't find work after graduation and had to move back to South Africa. It's even tougher to find potential positions now that she's not local and no companies seem to want to shell out to sponsor a work visa. She applied like crazy when she was over here but no dice. With the Ebola outbreak she's close to danger as well and wants to get out before it gets any closer to her location.

Are there any organizations that help foreigners get jobs in the states, or help find companies that have no problem sponsoring visas? She was educated here and it sucks to see her struggle to get back. Any advice is appreciated.

Ebola isn't near South Africa... I mean sure its on the same continent but its over 5000 miles away.

As for work sponsorship. Its always very hard to get work sponsorship when you are not in the country. Many companies don't want to shell out for the cost and paper work unless you are established and are going to bring something to the table.

She should look into the green card lottery system if she wants to go back to the US. Otherwise look into other countries that may be willing to sponsor her or offer some kind youth mobility Visa. Unfortunately, South Africa is one of those countries that you need to have things lined up before traveling. However, it is possible.
 

Necrovex

Member
She went to college for animation in the U.S. but couldn't find work after graduation and had to move back to South Africa. It's even tougher to find potential positions now that she's not local and no companies seem to want to shell out to sponsor a work visa. She applied like crazy when she was over here but no dice. With the Ebola outbreak she's close to danger as well and wants to get out before it gets any closer to her location.

She is not in any danger of Ebola if she lives in South Africa. Like none at all.
 
I got fired from a job at Tesco (supermarket) after my first shift. He said it was because I wasn't cheerful enough. That's probably because I was too busy trying to learn the job.

I'm done with retail work.
 

Mii

Banned
So I graduated with a bachelors in accountancy last December. Couldn't find any full time employment in my field so I went back for my Masters. Got 4 full time job offers within weeks after starting my masters. Its really due to the program and the connections it gave me. Feels good GAF to now have a full time, well paid, job set up when I complete my masters. I can't think of another program where 100% of the graduating class gets job offers.

I just want to make sure this gets attention. Back when I was in public accounting, tons of my colleagues would come from masters in accountancy programs. They did very well for themselves, as did their classmates. They were placed at some of the best accounting firms in the country. I've moved on from accounting now, but I would encourage people to seriously consider accounting as a career. It opens many doors for people of all backgrounds.

As for me, I was lucky enough to not need a masters program for accounting. I am now in an MBA program at a top 10 school, and I am pursuing a career in investment banking. I have been in non-stop recruiting events, and Monday I submitted about 30 job applications. I should be learning in the coming 10 days what interviews I will get. I get very nervous when I have to wait for a result like this; its hard for me to think about anything but the impending decision.
 

Loxley

Member
I have a two-hour interview tomorrow morning, really nervous. It's for a full-time salaried art position with a really cool company. The first hour is with their HR Manager whom I had my phone interview with about a month back. The second hour is with their art director (who I assume would be my boss if I were to be hired) and their technical director.

I'm confident in my portfolio and my interview skills, but we'll see what happens. This month is the two-year mark since I finished college and this will be the closest I've yet come to potential employment as an artist in that time. Fingers crossed.
 

Esiquio

Member
Here's my story.
Well, I totally agree that the searching for a new job is terrible experience.
It took me about a year to finally found one. I’ve sent more than 300 applications, got 8 phones back which turned into 5 interviews. I’m engineer, electrician, but my current job is something different.
My last interview was a success. Funny thing is that in my opinion, it was my worst one. I still cannot believe that I got it. I came couple minutes late, day after girl broke up with me so I wasn’t in good shape… There were 4 people: 2 women from HR and 2 engineers. First, some question from HR’s like why I want to change my current job, something about me, languages and programs I know; most common questions. Then one of the engineers asked me about some technical stuff, my experience etc. And honestly I didn’t do a good impression, I had to say many times “I don’t know”. He told me that I’ll have to learn many things. My response: I know, and I’m ready for it, that’s why I want this job. At this moment I felt like I had no chance to get this job, both engineers looked bored (one did not even ask me a single question). I just wanted to leave: “do you have any question you would like to ask? – umm, no – ok so it’s all, we’ll give you response till Friday.” Well they didn’t call so I’ve already gave up the hope. But they called yesterday: they want me!, I’ll start right after New Year. I still don’t know how the hell this happened. Last night I couldn’t sleep, so many emotions right now: excitement mixed with fear…

Wow that's great! Funny how things work out sometimes, unexpectedly!
 
Well, I'm halfway across the country right now, with an interview scheduled for tomorrow AM (For a programming position). It would be really weird to move my entire family out here, but it could be a good situation.

The hardest thing was getting away from my current dead-end job. I couldn't tell them anything, yet I was chomping at the bit to get out of there yesterday. At least they didn't push too hard when it came to asking why I was taking off the rest of the week.
 

kirby_fox

Banned
Had to start doing this again recently. I've been off and on with it, but I'm fairly tired of working 6 days a week for little money and being treated fairly poorly by my boss. The last straw had to be when he basically demanded I work 7 days a week when needed because he wouldn't hire someone to clean then getting bitched at for not getting my job done because I should've stayed extra hours to do 2 full-time jobs, THEN being told I should just stay all day at work on Saturdays when I'm on call.

No matter how soul crushing the job hunt is, getting out of the soul crushing job is worth it.
 

darthbob

Member
Going into an interview for a Budtender at my local dispensary. Already had a similar interview earlier in the year that went no where.

I feel like these places only ever hire attractive women. -_-
 

Anjelus_

Junior Member
So, this seems like a good place for me to post.

I have a B.S. in Public Policy and a B.A. in Spanish. Speak English fluently, proficient in Spanish, at an intermediate level in German. Currently seriously considering continuing my education by getting a master's degree in international relations.

I have a strong passion for public service and want to put myself to work in... say... the State Department. Or a federal agency that deals with foreign policy in some way.

Should I just go to USAJobs and start applying for things? I feel like other people working the types of jobs I would want to apply for are inherently more qualified for them than I am. Right now I don't have any work experience in government save for an internship with Organize for America. I've been paying the bills via a writing job since I graduated. It brings home the bacon but it has just gotten horribly boring.

I mean damn, I have three languages, a degree in "government things" and I actually want to do public service work, but each time I browse USAJobs they list a slew of qualifications like "5 years experience" and such. Also the resumes they ask for are much different in format from the private sector's.

Little lost soul soliciting pro-tips here.
 
I just want to make sure this gets attention. Back when I was in public accounting, tons of my colleagues would come from masters in accountancy programs. They did very well for themselves, as did their classmates. They were placed at some of the best accounting firms in the country. I've moved on from accounting now, but I would encourage people to seriously consider accounting as a career. It opens many doors for people of all backgrounds.

As for me, I was lucky enough to not need a masters program for accounting. I am now in an MBA program at a top 10 school, and I am pursuing a career in investment banking. I have been in non-stop recruiting events, and Monday I submitted about 30 job applications. I should be learning in the coming 10 days what interviews I will get. I get very nervous when I have to wait for a result like this; its hard for me to think about anything but the impending decision.

The actual masters in accounting I would argue is pointless. Being eligible for the CPA is what is seen as valuable. Finance and accounting is a field that every company in the world has a need for and its one of those fields that is just slightly too boring, technical, and math oriented that it weeds out a lot of people and can land you a job if you stick with it. Unlike marketing and management (non-MBA) programs which are just overflowing with students. In my opinion a degree in finance and/or accounting is the only worthwhile degree in a school of business with the exception of maybe Economics, however even that feels too broad scoped at times.

Aren't you at NYU? Are you enjoying it? I bailed out on the idea of full time MBA and am shooting for part time at UCLA but GMAT is still fairly weak. :/
 

Mii

Banned
The actual masters in accounting I would argue is pointless. Being eligible for the CPA is what is seen as valuable. Finance and accounting is a field that every company in the world has a need for and its one of those fields that is just slightly too boring, technical, and math oriented that it weeds out a lot of people and can land you a job if you stick with it. Unlike marketing and management (non-MBA) programs which are just overflowing with students. In my opinion a degree in finance and/or accounting is the only worthwhile degree in a school of business with the exception of maybe Economics, however even that feels too broad scoped at times.

Aren't you at NYU? Are you enjoying it? I bailed out on the idea of full time MBA and am shooting for part time at UCLA but GMAT is still fairly weak. :/

Masters in Accountancy programs also have fantastic connections with the Big 4 offices in the city they are located. Northeastern University in Boston, for example, effectively sends its entire class to the Big 4 in Boston, with little to no difficulty.

I agree that if one can avoid a masters in accountancy, get the CPA, and go to a public accounting job, they are much better off due to time and money saved. Not everyone can be expected to do that though. For those that need that extra assistance, the Masters in Accountancy or Tax can be very much worthwhile, depending on the program.

As for Stern, its going pretty well. I got my first interview offers today, and more should be coming in tomorrow and the rest of the week. I'll be going into full-time interview prep mode for the holiday season very soon in preparation for interviews with investment banks starting mid-January.

I forget, are you prepping with Manhattan GMAT?
 
Masters in Accountancy programs also have fantastic connections with the Big 4 offices in the city they are located. Northeastern University in Boston, for example, effectively sends its entire class to the Big 4 in Boston, with little to no difficulty.

I agree that if one can avoid a masters in accountancy, get the CPA, and go to a public accounting job, they are much better off due to time and money saved. Not everyone can be expected to do that though. For those that need that extra assistance, the Masters in Accountancy or Tax can be very much worthwhile, depending on the program.

As for Stern, its going pretty well. I got my first interview offers today, and more should be coming in tomorrow and the rest of the week. I'll be going into full-time interview prep mode for the holiday season very soon in preparation for interviews with investment banks starting mid-January.

I forget, are you prepping with Manhattan GMAT?

Nice, good luck. Keep the Graduate thread updated.

I used self prep through Manhattan and wasn't scoring well enough on prep tests. I bit the bullet and enrolled in an online course with Veritas and saw my scores go up (averaged 700). But push came to shove and took the actual GMAT and was only able to score a 610. Pretty soul crushing. Part of the reason why I'm attempting part time as it has easier admissions, but also because I was able to switch into entertainment industry without it which is why I'm in SoCal now.
 

Loxley

Member
So, an update from my post earlier on this page, the interview went very well. There were only one or two questions I had to use some verbal kung-fu to get through, but I think I managed it. I also think I got some bonus points during the "Do you have any questions you'd like to ask us?" portion of the interview. I asked "Do you have any hesitations about me or my qualifications for this job?" - which I'd read can be a great question since it's little gutsy. The HR woman actually told me it was a "great question", which is good because they didn't have any immediate concerns or worries to speak of. Woohoo.

After the interview they told me the next step would be a "tryout" of sorts. If they decided to move forward with me as a candidate based off my portfolio and the interview, they would email me some materials to put together for them in an artistic and presentable fashion. Sort of a mock scenario to see what I'd come up with for a typical project they'd work on. I think this is the final step in the process.

I got the call from them this morning, they'll be sending me the materials tomorrow :D I'm so damn close to this job I can taste it.

Funny thing though. One of the HR people who interviewed me? Her mom works as the HR director for the small company my sister works for. And I guess the woman who interviewed must have spoken to her mom about the interview, because her mom told my sister that "everyone loves him" in reference to me. So things are looking very good.
 

t26

Member
So, this seems like a good place for me to post.

I have a B.S. in Public Policy and a B.A. in Spanish. Speak English fluently, proficient in Spanish, at an intermediate level in German. Currently seriously considering continuing my education by getting a master's degree in international relations.

I have a strong passion for public service and want to put myself to work in... say... the State Department. Or a federal agency that deals with foreign policy in some way.

Should I just go to USAJobs and start applying for things? I feel like other people working the types of jobs I would want to apply for are inherently more qualified for them than I am. Right now I don't have any work experience in government save for an internship with Organize for America. I've been paying the bills via a writing job since I graduated. It brings home the bacon but it has just gotten horribly boring.

I mean damn, I have three languages, a degree in "government things" and I actually want to do public service work, but each time I browse USAJobs they list a slew of qualifications like "5 years experience" and such. Also the resumes they ask for are much different in format from the private sector's.

Little lost soul soliciting pro-tips here.

If you speaks Spanish you are in huge demand at the county/state level.
 
So, this seems like a good place for me to post.

I have a B.S. in Public Policy and a B.A. in Spanish. Speak English fluently, proficient in Spanish, at an intermediate level in German. Currently seriously considering continuing my education by getting a master's degree in international relations.

I have a strong passion for public service and want to put myself to work in... say... the State Department. Or a federal agency that deals with foreign policy in some way.

Should I just go to USAJobs and start applying for things? I feel like other people working the types of jobs I would want to apply for are inherently more qualified for them than I am. Right now I don't have any work experience in government save for an internship with Organize for America. I've been paying the bills via a writing job since I graduated. It brings home the bacon but it has just gotten horribly boring.

I mean damn, I have three languages, a degree in "government things" and I actually want to do public service work, but each time I browse USAJobs they list a slew of qualifications like "5 years experience" and such. Also the resumes they ask for are much different in format from the private sector's.

Little lost soul soliciting pro-tips here.

My girlfriend went through the same thing; she went back for her Master's and wound up with a paid Pathways internship with the State Department. You can apply as long as you are currently enrolled in school, and many of them are eligible for conversion to a full time job afterwards. Here is their link: http://careers.state.gov/intern/pathways

Good luck.

Edit: regarding your resume' format, she said to use the USAjobs resume' builder on the website and not to use any private sector resumes, they won't work.
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Welp just got fired from my job today so I guess I'm joining you guys. I asked to be able to keep working Dec 26th so I could get some hourly money and not abandon the store during the busy holiday season but apparently management had other plans.

I'm starting my final semester of college in January and will (hopefully) graduate with a bachelors in electrical engineering this May. I've already started buffing up my resume with the GAF thread in OT and have been reaching out to friends in the industry who said that they're more than willing to recommend me for a position in their firms.

I've been working retail for 2 years and it got to the point where I just flat out hated my job and myself every day I woke up for it. So, on the one hand I'm glad to leaving that environment but making the jump to a big boy job just seems so terrifying.

I'm going to start applying to my friend's firms and other various engineering businesses in my area once I get my resume sorted out and improved.

Wish me luck guys.
 

meowmixer

Neo Member
It seems few things are as bad as constant rejection. Not knowing why, questioning yourself over and over. What did I do wrong? Is there something wrong with me? I even started to wonder if maybe my voice was bad for phone interviews or something and I just felt so angry afterward that these damn HR women had brought me to that point of self doubt. This whole job hunting experience is just sickening to the soul. Sometimes I think about suicide.
 

Moozo

Member
Trying my best to get a small retail job or something just to keep going over Christmas but even they are so hard to come by at the moment. Feel like I'm getting nowhere with what I want long term too. Really quite scared I'll get stuck in a retail rut.
 

Sotha_Sil

Member
I was just offered a job in my field! It really helped having someone put in a recommendation form for me. I heard back the next day for a phone interview, had an in-person interview lined up for the following week (took about 3 hours), and heard back about a week after that.

I was having trouble finishing my thesis and was looking at another semester of living off a measly teaching assistantship. I'll be finishing my writing on the side as I work. It'll probably take me even longer to finish now since I'll be working on it after-hours and on weekends, but a full-time job with pretty good pay and better benefits can't be passed up.

I couldn't be more excited. I already know a good number of people in the office (former students or people I play basketball with), so it'll be a good working environment. It's for an environmental consulting firm, and I start January 5th. I just have to survive until that first paycheck....

I guess my recommendation to everyone here in college is to network the best you can. Meet and get to know the older students, they can help you out down the road. And if you're going to be doing anything related to engineering/research/science, get some experience. I spent a summer with the Chinese Geological Survey and worked in several labs at my two schools, that helped my resume considerably.
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
I just remembered how much I despise the automatic form filling software that some companies make you use. Sometimes it works out nicely, other times it erases all my summary information and adds 15 other mandatory fields that need to be filled in each time.
 

LosDaddie

Banned
Very thankful my job hunt only took 2 weeks. My old company had some layoffs, and they offered to keep me onboard, but at reduced salary /benefits/hours.....or I could take my severance package and leave that day. Told them I knew what I was worth, and got my money & left. I really liked the job, but my direct boss was a cunt. Just unfit to lead (professional) people. My boss' boss was great though...and probably the reason why the company wanted to keep me on. I knew sales were way down, and something would happen. I just didn't think it would be me.

Started my new job last week (Dec 1st), and it's been going great. Co-workers seem cool, and my boss isn't a micromanager. The drive is about 10-15min longer, which isn't bad at all. The company is really successful, but still small (30 people). Being a full-scale engineering firm means the pay and benefits package are great. Really happy to be on the design side of the industry.

Not going to lie, even with the severance package, those 2 weeks without work were stressful. Got rejected by a couple jobs I knew I could rock, but the company had ridiculous requirements.

Good luck everyone. Remember to network your ass off. It's how I landed my job.


Welp just got fired from my job today so I guess I'm joining you guys. I asked to be able to keep working Dec 26th so I could get some hourly money and not abandon the store during the busy holiday season but apparently management had other plans.

I'm starting my final semester of college in January and will (hopefully) graduate with a bachelors in electrical engineering this May. I've already started buffing up my resume with the GAF thread in OT and have been reaching out to friends in the industry who said that they're more than willing to recommend me for a position in their firms.

I've been working retail for 2 years and it got to the point where I just flat out hated my job and myself every day I woke up for it. So, on the one hand I'm glad to leaving that environment but making the jump to a big boy job just seems so terrifying.

I'm going to start applying to my friend's firms and other various engineering businesses in my area once I get my resume sorted out and improved.

Wish me luck guys.

Did you take/Are you going to take the EIT or FE tests? If not, then you should definitely consider it. A lot of engineering firms (like the one I work for) won't even consider new grads unless they've passed the EIT.

My advice? Practice as much AutoCAD and Revit as you can. Ask your friends for sample projects for you to work on. Otherwise, I sure hope you did some internships.
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Very thankful my job hunt only took 2 weeks. My old company had some layoffs, and they offered to keep me onboard, but at reduced salary /benefits/hours.....or I could take my severance package and leave that day. Told them I knew what I was worth, and got my money & left. I really liked the job, but my direct boss was a cunt. Just unfit to lead (professional) people. My boss' boss was great though...and probably the reason why the company wanted to keep me on. I knew sales were way down, and something would happen. I just didn't think it would be me.

Started my new job last week (Dec 1st), and it's been going great. Co-workers seem cool, and my boss isn't a micromanager. The drive is about 10-15min longer, which isn't bad at all. The company is really successful, but still small (30 people). Being a full-scale engineering firm means the pay and benefits package are great. Really happy to be on the design side of the industry.

Not going to lie, even with the severance package, those 2 weeks without work were stressful. Got rejected by a couple jobs I knew I could rock, but the company had ridiculous requirements.

Good luck everyone. Remember to network your ass off. It's how I landed my job.




Did you take/Are you going to take the EIT or FE tests? If not, then you should definitely consider it. A lot of engineering firms (like the one I work for) won't even consider new grads unless they've passed the EIT.

My advice? Practice as much AutoCAD and Revit as you can. Ask your friends for sample projects for you to work on. Otherwise, I sure hope you did some internships.

Oh yea I remember you. I think we used to play SF4 together.

Yea I do plan on taking the FE exam after my final semester is completed. My friends both didn't take it and yet ended up landing their jobs without much issue YMMV I guess. Still couldn't hurt I suppose.

I know enough programming to pass requirements for jobs but AutoCAD is something that was never really emphasized in our programs. I got a month break before my classes start again in January so I'll more than likely just knock out some tutorials and projects while I'm at it.

I haven't done any real engineering internships but I've spent two years working retail for a rather large US cellular company which hopefully would allow me to get my foot in door for either their internships or a full time job.
 

meowmixer

Neo Member
It seems like almost everyone on here is an engineer of some sort or an accountant. I wonder if the job market is tough for these professions right now or if Gaf just has more users with this background.
 

nampad

Member
I am back in the grind of looking for jobs after my unpaid internship at a big 4 company which indebted me even more ended. I did it because I lacked experience, which was probably the problem finding a job as a recent graduate (Master's equivalent degree in business administration).

Things are starting to look up for me. Got a job interview starting next year at a big 4 company and have to do an online test for another big 4 one. Was quite happy today until I called the unemployment office, where the lady wanted to pressure me into applying for a call center job with minimum wage. When I declined, she reminded me to get one quick or else I will be send to those minimum wage jobs.

That really pulled my whole mood down again. I know I am a leeching scumbag right now, there is no need to tell me that every fucking time. I hear that judgement enough and it just depresses me. It's not like I don't try to get my life in line. Why else would I get a academic degree which indebted me with student loans and why else did I just work my ass off up to 14 hours a day unpaid. I already got enough pressure finding a job to pay back my debt and be able to finally start my life.
At least try to offer me something that resemblance my qualification a little bit, which NEVER happens, always the same minimum wage shit.
 
It seems like almost everyone on here is an engineer of some sort or an accountant. I wonder if the job market is tough for these professions right now or if Gaf just has more users with this background.
A bit of both. I think the personality type that will get interested in video games enough to join this forum is also likely to be good at abstract reasoning and enjoy it on some level.

I have an interview later today, my first in about two months and got word that I'm on the short list for another job. It's a bit strange as nobody has shown any interest for the past year or so apart from people wanting someone for a short term contract. As tough as my current gig is given my circumstances, I just can't give up a steady paying job for that.

Anyway, the job today looks promising. The advertised work hours seem suspiciously short (it works out as a 35 hour week), which after a year of doing twice that plus travel and working away from home, sounds like heaven. It's local government, which hopefully means some job security for a while, and the pay, while a huge cut compared to what I'm making now, is still a step up from what I was making a year ago and more importantly, I would get to go home and see my family at the end of each day.

Wish me luck!
 

NastyBook

Member
Good luck to all that just started their new jobs, or have interviews on the horizon. I've been working part time in the public library system in DeKalb county since 2007. At one point I was offered a full time position, but I was taking a ton of college courses and thought the work would make my productivity suffer. Joke was on me, cuz I ended dropping out shortly after. Couldn't find work at local grocery stores, despite my previous experience working at Harveys. And in the meantime, my wife, who works in the same library system, was steadily climbing the ladder like a fucking champ.

Fast forward a few years and I land a job at Gamestop of all places. Got completely blindsided by my Sony fanboyism, thinking that would lead me to success in getting people to pre-order games and shit. It didn't. Got let go a year later. Finally, just last week, I get a call from administration saying they have a full time position for Senior Library Technician with my name on it, I happily accept it, called the family up with the words "Full Time," and listened to them break down or get close to it. Started this past Saturday and cannot wait to get my first full time check the day before Christmas. Feels good to feel on equal footing with my wife, and to also take a huge burden off my mother, who was supporting the two of us while I was part time.

Your day is coming, guys/gals.
 
Starting to get worried since its been awhile since I've had a job. Just finished school, applied for a job that I won't even get told if I got rejected til end of January that I super want, but need something in between. Even if I got said dream job it would be a good 7 months between starting that and getting accepted.

Realizing I have 0 clue how to actually look for a job. Does not help I live in a small town/city where most people get their jobs through legacy hires and family friends. Any tips guys?
 

Barzul

Member
I have an interview with a Fortune 20 company tomorrow at a Starbucks, it was very sudden because the manager of the team that will be interviewing me is based in another state and this will basically be my only chance to meet him for a face to face. I got this interview off a friends recommendation. What do I wear?
 
I have an interview with a Fortune 20 company tomorrow at a Starbucks, it was very sudden because the manager of the team that will be interviewing me is based in another state and this will basically be my only chance to meet him for a face to face. I got this interview off a friends recommendation. What do I wear?

Same thing you would in a regular interview.
 
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