Is it actually faster than the normal way though? I guess you can skip the trouble of logging in the Play Store and install Titanium again.
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Is it actually faster than the normal way though? I guess you can skip the trouble of logging in the Play Store and install Titanium again.
The Faceless Master
Member
yeah, it should be. have you seen how fast recovery mode is when it comes to writing data?
I haven't flashed any rom in a while. The official Samsung ICS 4.0 rom is stable enough that I am happy with it.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Yeah but is everything going to run like shit as per the typical Titanium Backup restore? That's why I stopped using it. Flashing a new ROM and installing everything again gives better results than flashing and restoring through TiBa.
I rooted my Desire HD and put Jelly Time on it.
Fuck you HTC, I can get the new Android if I want to!
How did you go around rooting the Desire HD. I've looked around but must admit i'm pretty confused about it tbh.
GroteSmurf
Member
I rooted my Desire HD and put Jelly Time on it.
Fuck you HTC, I can get the new Android if I want to!
I did this as well...The whole thing became unstable. I had troubles with the display and the wifi
It looked cool though So i flashed Revolution HD and now it's stable again I do miss the new notification bar and especially the gmail app Certainly not in my experience, as long as you aren't doing anything dumb like restoring system data,
After you install, though, there's still the process of waiting for your app data to be installed once you boot the device. Still massively faster than what it used to be. Depending on how many apps you install (I have tons), it took a few minutes in recovery. Once booted, it'd easily take 30+ minutes without the flashable zip. That's not even including when it sometimes hangs on an app and I have to start the process again.
Is there a way to force the official YouTube App to pre download videos from Wifi if you marked them as "watch later" ? I don't really have a clue which requirements have to be met before it starts downloading in the background, sometimes it works and sometimes it just won't load anything for hours.....
Alright just did a fresh install of AOKP on my GS3, installed the rom, the gapps, and then the update.zip file I created with TB. It installs for a good portion of the zip then it randomly reboots my phone. I tried this on stock TW roms as well not working there either. shame it looks like it's installing so much faster.
The Faceless Master
Member
never noticed that myself... did you restore any system data? that can cause issues...
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Maybe that's what I was doing wrong. Good to know for future flashes.
I find the mail.com (works with all the services) client to be fairly attractive.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
So i just installed CM10 on my e4gt and the first thing i did was install SMS backup & restore. Well i downloaded the xml file that i had as back up and when i go to restore it says there are like 40k texts but its only restoring 2k. any isead. i also checked the messaging settings so it wouldnt discard any texts.
I kept the old version of YouTube and never updated because of all the feedback. However, I flashed Omega V6 and youtube was already update. I forgot all about it and just tried it for the first time... WTF! It's seriously hideous and retarded.
I don't think there's a way to go back, right?
I don't think there's a way to go back, right?
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Check out some of these Android app holo redesigns. They're not real but they show the potential of beautiful apps if devs put some effort into it. The holo design language looks awesome.
Here are a few others: http://www.androiduipatterns.com/2012/11/android-apps-redesigned.html
Here are a few others: http://www.androiduipatterns.com/2012/11/android-apps-redesigned.html
The Faceless Master
Member
soooooo... in the tb redesign proposal, you would have to scroll across to the schedules page? why make things harder?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
What's funny (or maybe sad) is that it actually doesn't take much effort at all to make a nice Holo design, because you get most of it for free. The action bar (the top bar with the app icon, title, action buttons, overflow menu, tabs (yes, they are part of the action bar), etc.) isn't something you have to design and implement yourself, it's a built-in feature of Android 3.0+ (and there are support libraries for making it available to older versions). In fact, when making an app the action bar will automatically be there unless you explicitly tell it not to be. The same goes for other things; as long as you use standard Android UI elements you will pretty much get a nice Holo look automatically.
So it actually really takes more effort to make an app not look Holo, at least if you're making it from the ground up for Android. I guess most of the ugly ass apps are either old pre-3.0 apps that haven't been updated to take advantage of the new features, or lazy iOS ports.
Here's a screenshot of a simple app I'm currently making for a school assignment:
I'm not gonna pretend it looks especially awesome, but it does look Holo, which is the point here. Now, did it take a lot of effort on my part to get it looking like this? No, that's just how the action bar, tabs and a list look by default in the Holo Light theme. The only thing I really had to do myself design-wise was provide the icons, but Google provides icons packs with all the standard ones, so I didn't actually have to make those myself either. (And yeah, I also "borrowed" the Play Books app icon, but since this app will never be released anywhere I figure that's fine.)
If I instead want this app to use the dark Holo theme, all it takes is making a few small XML changes and providing icons that work better against the dark background, and this is what I get:
Again, that took basically no effort at all on my part.
Anyway, my point is that making an app look decently good and Holo-themed is pretty damn easy. It basically happens automatically as long as you use the standard features the platform provides instead of coming up with your own ugly solution.
Mecha_Infantry
Banned
There's also a good YouTube channel that does holo redesigns.
I'm sure the majority of app designers have no idea how shit their apps look
K9 (unless its been redesigned recently), is probably the worst example I've seen on android
I'm sure the majority of app designers have no idea how shit their apps look
K9 (unless its been redesigned recently), is probably the worst example I've seen on android
HurricaneJesus
Member
The Faceless Master
Member
yeah, a common theme on these redesigns seems to be "SHOW LESS INFO BUT MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A MAGAZINE"
Yup, Holo is awesome. And yet people don't even want to put effort into something this gorgeous.
Don't worry guys, there'll be plenty of high-profile, hideous iOS/Gingerbread mash-ups available on the Play Store for years to come.
Mecha_Infantry
Banned
Well I think that attitude (not yours) is why so many Android apps look horrid and will continue to be
It's not about less info, it's about clearly presented info on one screen, and utilising scrolling or swiping for more info. Clearly present info.
That's why iOS and WP8 UI in apps will always trump Android, as devs, IMO, put less care in designing apps based on the horrid past of Android OS
Zombie James
Banned
I think that basically there are a small percentage of people care about UI aesthetic (let's say 10-20% and I am being generous). And all of these 20% have already purchased Apple products.
So do Android/Windows application developers really need to make beautiful looking app? In a competitive genre, maybe. Otherwise I doubt it.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I think you underestimate people's aesthetic sensibilities, and I also think it's pretty dumb to imply that only iOS users care about this stuff. I'm pretty sure most people care whether an app looks good or like shit, and whether it looks like it belongs on the phone or completely out of place (as all lazy iOS ports and non-updated Android 2.x apps do).
I know I do. For example, I've payed for this timer app, mostly thanks to its great Holo design. Something like this or this, on the other hand, I would never use even though they're free. I'm sure they work just fine, but they look like utter shit, so they're not getting on my phone.
HurricaneJesus
Member
Function over form. Make it work well and then make it pretty.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Just because you're making a functional app doesn't mean it has to look bad. As I wrote above, you basically get the whole Holo look for free, and to make something that looks really bad you really have to intentionally work against what the platform provides. For example, the action bar is there by default in every Android 3.0+ app, and in order to replace it with some hideous design of your own you have to explicitly disable it. Why go through that trouble, unless you're just lazily porting over an iOS app and couldn't give less of a shit about the design guidelines of the platform you're porting it to?
100% ready for nearly two months!
What is the deal with the dalays?
A timer app that can countdown on the notification bar would have been must more useful. I am not searching Play Market to find out if such an app exist, because I know I can write one with Tasker.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
You're so wrong. No one wants to use ugly apps if there's an easy fix out there. I will absolutely avoid using apps if they're ugly.
Look at all the Android Twitter clients. Boid made a big splash because of how it looks. If people only cared about function, we'd already have enough Twitter apps.
Android already has function these days.
saltywalrus
Member
Unfortunately the majority of Android devices are running Android releases pre-ICS. I'm thankful for CM10, otherwise my Vibrant would be in the trash.
Well are the beautiful apps outselling the ugly apps? If they do, then I am wrong. If they don't, then I am not wrong.
I was making a comment on the general attitude of the users. I didn't say "people hate beautiful apps" or anything like that.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I think generally, subconsciously or not, people prefer better looking apps. Yes, if an app is functional, cool. That'll work. But, again, if you look at Boid, it made a big splash because it was the first fully Holo Twitter app out there. It lacks a ton of functionality but it still garnered a lot of attention.
I'm not sure if better looking apps outsell the ugly ones. I'd suspect so. But then again, Android users don't pay for apps, isn't that right, gentlemen
The Faceless Master
Member
the thing that really blows me away about the TB Pro mockup is there are only 3 tabs anyway. what is the point of having schedules being pushed off screen?
10k-50k people agree with you.
nothing stopping devs from using Holo UI on pre-ICS devices... Google has provided support for that
New cloud backup contender - Jottacloud. Sync sms in addition to contacts, photos videos etc.
5 GB free. Seems to be proper Holo UI.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jottacloud.android.client
iPhone UI for comparison:
5 GB free. Seems to be proper Holo UI.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jottacloud.android.client
iPhone UI for comparison: