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April Wrasslin' |OT 2| I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!
- Thread starter Bluekaveli
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excelsiorlef
Member
I honestly was a huge proponent of just keeping them together long term....
HashtagLapsed
Member
Assuming this is a shoot, Kendrick really is the worst. Even if it is a work I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxKNnRJans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxKNnRJans
Bluekaveli
Member
Too much talent to be wasted in a group.
Ok, I'll try to explain my side with this. Yes, they could've had a more exciting 10 minute match. No doubt. But I don't see that blame falling on Orton or Wyatt. They worked ok. It wasn't Tanahashi vs Okada but it was ok. The match abruptly finished with no regard for the story they were building in the ring. I'm putting the blame on the people who booked and made the match, it was structurally poor. Considering WWE has a penchant for doing these really bizarre matches with abrupt and stale endings... yeah it's not hard for me to pin the blame on the bookers for it.
If your two wrestlers can really go, then you let them go hard. If they can sort of go together, like Randy and Bray, then you focus a bit more on the structure of the match and plan that shit out to not expose their weaknesses and make for a tighter match. The two of them did their roles, their roles were just shit.
I can extend that to the Roman/Taker match. Yes, Roman hadn't needed to carry someone that hard by that point so he was totally inexperienced. Taker was old and slow as fuck and could barely go. That's a black mark on the match, definitely. But it's arguably an even bigger black mark on the bookers for how they planned the match. I'll try to recall it.
The match is ok for a while, until Taker hits his tombstone, which I think is the only one he does in the ENTIRE MATCH. Up to that point, we had been conditioned on multiple tombstones and other finishers as a Taker Mania match was a huge clash of the titans of wrestling. Roman then proceeds to hit like 4 spears over the course of 20 minutes with only a Taker chokeslam somewhere in between, I think between his 1st and 2nd spear in that series. Taker gets no offense between the 3rd and 4th spears. Instead of leaving that match with tension, or really any emotion, we're left with apathy because the match was a nothingburger up to that point, with literally no offense from Taker.
That issue from the match isn't a problem with the wrestlers in the ring, that's a problem with how the match was BOOKED. Same with Orton/Bray. If they wanted to go with a squash type match for Roman/Taker, then they should've booked it shorter with the spears closer together. 10 minutes, maybe. Shorter, even. That's how you book a fuck you squash match that appears fast-paced to hide the shortcomings of both Roman and Taker.
If they wanted an epic brawl, then they should've booked it so Taker actually got offense in the last 3/4 of the match.
What we got from the booking was an awful, boring mix of both where it didn't work out and we ended with Mania with apathy and resignation.
WWE matches almost always have a problem with their booking, not with the quality of the wrestlers.
SallyIsNow
Banned
I'm gonna buy this. I'm all about that conspiracy bullshit.
So you're agreeing with me that the match was booked poorly, not that Orton or Bray didn't go enough.
SallyIsNow
Banned
You're fighting Dato, not ex.
FallingEdge
Member
Holy shit at this Impact spoiler - https://twitter.com/SirOwenDisney/status/856290919108284417/photo/1
holla if you hear me!
Bluekaveli
Member
Ooooooh yeah brother dude. I'm the Hulkster Man Hollywood Savage!
I know, but she was agreeing with him even though she was proving my point.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Bluekaveli
Member
Now show me when he got his wig split
excelsiorlef
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I think you can do a lot more with the time they had than they did yes, just look at Brock/GBerg
Does he do the worm?
It's not though...
half a moon
Banned
Who is that?
RecRoulette
Member
Damn, Zack Ryder's looking ROUGH.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
That's a name I haven't seen in years...
excelsiorlef
Member
It is to me.
New Ep of The Elite
https://youtu.be/nxPNTsttNQQ
Moving more and more to a split between Adam Cole and Kenny and the Bucks. The frequent appearances of Marty Scurll makes me hope that when they do pull the split that Marty slides into Adam's spot in the Elite... because Marty is awesome on these things, he's gone from a guy who I like fine enough to a guy I love thanks to how fun he is on these.
Honestly this story is my fav in wrestling right now and lol it;s told through Youtube.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I think the 'heel throws the old title in the trash to debut a new title' is one of my least favorite wrestling things. It never gets over, never feels right, and through some voodoo magic the new titles always look worse.
Professor Beef
Banned
Ugh, I hate that RVD-type selling.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Fuck the Spanish Fly
half a moon
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Sorry about your damn luck
Bluekaveli
Member
SUPER C4!
Incredibly crisp, but damn, does this move make zero sense.
half a moon
Banned
You're excited about a stiff worker? What is wrong with you?
Professor Beef
Banned
You must be mad at half the thread if you're asking that question.
half a moon
Banned
There's a lot of you that are excited about what happened to Finn?
excelsiorlef
Member
A freak accident?
Professor Beef
Banned
Well people LOVED that Shibata match, after all.
SallyIsNow
Banned
I can't tell who's pro or anti Jinder anymore. GWF Attitude.
excelsiorlef
Member
For the record I wouldn't have done it, but it's happening so I'm going to just roll with it and laugh at the absurdity of it all
Stone Cold said himself that he only used 3 moves post neck injury
Punches, stomach kick, stunner?
I'm pretty sure he also used a jumping elbow (12 to 6)!
Professor Beef
Banned
Because movesets have always mattered in wrestling, particularly the WWE...
"Lol salt. U mad. Hinder Jinder. Memes" Jinder is ruining christimas, and not in a good way like Braun did.
Are you entertained by Jinder in the ring?
I'm at the point where I wish Liu Kang was here to talk about Roman.
FallingEdge
Member
"I am tired of seeing the same wrestlers in the main event, I want something new"
*Jinder gets a title shot"
"No, not him. Push only the nerds I care about."
*Jinder gets a title shot"
"No, not him. Push only the nerds I care about."