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[TarpitCarnivore]

I read E&C as Edge and Christian and almost addes you to the list of damned members.

I fixed it for you Blue

 

[Sephzilla]

I think Enzo & Cass are hands down the worst tag team, if not the worst wrestlers period, in all of WWE.

Enzo has no moves beyond "get beat up"
Cass has 4 moves: sidewalk slam, elbow drop, boot and boot over the rope
Their tag matches have no flow or teamwork beyond generic hot tag spots. And when those spots happen Cass literally goes through the same flow.

The Ascension and Shining Stars are still on the roster

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

The Ascension and Shining Stars are still on the roster

They at least offer some variance in a match

 

[Kaladin]

Fact :

Enzo and Cass only exist because of The New Age Outlaws.

 

[jmdajr]

The Ascension didn't even get a chance to suck. I don't think I have seen a quicker burial.
Debuted one night, mocked the next.

Shining Stars wasn't as much a burial as it was a total fucking flop.

 

[Bluekaveli]

I fixed it for you Blue

I would've left it as it was so everyone else could be in shock too then realize just who you were indeed talking about lol mV

The Ascension and Shining Stars are still on the roster

Los Baricuas 2.0 is about to run wild on the whole roster jack!

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

Fact :

Enzo and Cass only exist because of The New Age Outlaws.

Fact: They only exist because Vince got a glimpse of Cass

 

[Sephzilla]

They at least offer some variance in a match

As someone who watched a lot of The Ascensions NXT run, I beg to differ

 

[Bluekaveli]

Fact: They only exist because Vince got a glimpse of Cass

And Cass only has a job because he's tall.

Demott was a damn savage with that comment. Not like he was lying though.

 

[Kaladin]

Fact: They only exist because Vince got a glimpse of Cass

Their style is purely NAO though. All you have to do is change them into a couple of babyfaces from Jersey. Billy Gunn is Big Cass, Road Dogg is Enzo. Go back and watch some of those matches and see.

 

[jmdajr]

My understanding is that Cena really pushed to give Enzo a chance.

Cass is tall.

 

[excelsiorlef]

I will say I absolutely love watching Enzo get beat up.

 

[Sephzilla]

And Cass only has a job because he's tall.

Demott was a damn savage with that comment. Not like he was lying though.

It was still a stupid thing to say though because that's the only reason a lot of tall wrestlers get jobs. It's not like Kevin Nash was that good in the ring either.

 

[excelsiorlef]

It was still a stupid thing to say though because that's the only reason a lot of tall wrestlers get jobs. It's not like Kevin Nash was that good in the ring either.

Nash could talk up a storm though.

 

[Data West]

nash was also pretty good looking

unlike ratface cass

 

[Sephzilla]

Nash could talk up a storm though.

nash was also pretty good looking

unlike ratface cass

True. Nash had a better look and was a better talker

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

Damn. Well I guess I can't boo Roman Reigns anymore.

 

[Kaladin]

Nash got how to look intimidating, that's what got him over.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

Their style is purely NAO though. All you have to do is change them into a couple of babyfaces from Jersey. Billy Gunn is Big Cass, Road Dogg is Enzo. Go back and watch some of those matches and see.

I know this gets said a lot and it's fairly true, but NAO matches were entertaining. Both guys could wrestle and offer some stuff in the ring. E&C have no upside in the ring, none.

 

[excelsiorlef]

True. Nash had a better look and was a better talker

And he was a better wrestler...


What did Demott say bout Cass, or was it just the quote above about the team only getting a push because Vince saw Cass?

 

[TimeEffect]

Damn, Roman's own brother?

Poor dude

 

[Kaladin]

I know this gets said a lot and it's fairly true, but NAO matches were entertaining. Both guys could wrestle and offer some stuff in the ring. E&C have no upside in the ring, none.

I didn't say they compared to NAO, I'm just saying that's who is solely responsible for the style they're going for. Just make NAO babyfaces and give them Jersey accents and make them much greener wrestlers.

 

[jmdajr]

Total crap in the ring, but yeah. Dude had charisma.

 

[imBask]

Cass would look way better if he could grow a beard, but genetics are against him

 

[excelsiorlef]

Total crap in the ring, but yeah. Dude had charisma.

Nash also, when he'd hit it properly, had a super hot finisher.

 

[Sephzilla]

I think a more apt comparison would be Cass to Sid Vicious. Neither were good wrestlers and couldn't really talk at all. But Sid had a better look too.

 

[Heroman]

Enzo is really bad.

 

[Kaladin]

I think a more apt comparison would be Cass to Sid Vicious. Neither were good wrestlers and couldn't really talk at all. But Sid had a better look too.

Don't insult the master and ruler of the world like that.

 

[Sephzilla]

Sid's mic skills were so bad that they became good though. So he has that going for him

 

[imBask]

I think a more apt comparison would be Cass to Sid Vicious. Neither were good wrestlers and couldn't really talk at all. But Sid had a better look too.

Sid was ugly as hell

not Lex Luger ugly, but real ugly

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

I think a more apt comparison would be Cass to Sid Vicious. Neither were good wrestlers and couldn't really talk at all. But Sid had a better look too.

Sid's promo's were at least hilarious. Can't say the same for Cass

 

[jmdajr]

I was shook when Sid kicked out of the leg drop.

 

[Kaladin]

Sid's mic skills were so bad that they became good though. So he has that going for him

Sid could turn on that intense face with ease. He could look scary no matter what he said in a promo.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

Sid was ugly as hell

not Lex Luger ugly, but real ugly

You watch your damn mouth

 

[excelsiorlef]

I think a more apt comparison would be Cass to Sid Vicious. Neither were good wrestlers and couldn't really talk at all. But Sid had a better look too.

Sid at the Ultimate Warrior promo thing going for him though, Cass just sounds bored

 

[Kaladin]

Also, that fucking powerbomb:

 

[Sephzilla]

Sid's Powerbomb > Nash's Powerbomb

 

[Kaladin]

Sid's Powerbomb > Nash's Powerbomb

I'd even say it's better than The Last Ride

 

[Tagyhag]

RIP Rosey. I could have totally seen Miz bringing him out in full superhero costume in a feud with Reigns lol.

So damn young too.

 

[Sephzilla]

I'd even say it's better than The Last Ride

I've never been a huge fan of the Last Ride because the atomic wedgie portion of the move always ruined the badass factor

 

[Tall4Life]

Sid has main evented every Wrestlemania he's participated in

 

[Bluekaveli]

It was still a stupid thing to say though because that's the only reason a lot of tall wrestlers get jobs. It's not like Kevin Nash was that good in the ring either.

Can't compare Nash and Cass. Cass is straight trash.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Sid has main evented every Wrestlemania he's been participated in

Every Sid Mania main event was overshadowed by classics in the undercard.

 

[Sephzilla]

Sid has main evented every Wrestlemania he's been participated in

 

[Kaladin]

Sid's best WWE match was vs HBK at the 97 Rumble

 

[Bluekaveli]

Sid's Powerbomb > Nash's Powerbomb

Nash's powerbomb always resembled a fuck up. Sid's seemed genuine probably because he at least stalled for a 2 seconds. Nash just told them to fuck off.

 

[Tall4Life]

Every Sid Mania main event was overshadowed by classics in the undercard.

Owen Hart vs Skinner was not a classic, i don't understand what you're saying here

 

[Bluekaveli]

Sid's best WWE match was vs HBK at the 97 Rumble

Shawn worked with some shitty motherfuckers and got the best out of them. That match is one of my most watched and it was indeed Sid's best. I just wished he had his head on straight because softball had his head fucked up.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Owen Hart vs Skinner was not a classic, i don't understand what you're saying here

C'est bon ça, très drôle... Bravo.

 

[Kaladin]

If we're talking powerbombs.....