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[GunBR]

Does WWE want new fans? Used the two biggest PPVs of the year to push Orton.

I was going to say how Mania And Rumble season are about old guys and the new ones got a better spot in Summerslam.
But then I remember that Orton was in the main event of last year Summerslam

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

*three months later*

BROCK LESNAH, YUR GUNNA HAFTA BE DEALIN WITH MAH DA DEMON KANG! 'CAUSE AT SUMMERSLAM, ONE YEAR AFTA I FIRST WON THA UNIVERSAL TITLE, I'M GUNNA TAKE IT OFF YA! BECAUSE A BEAST IS ALWAYS SLAIN BY DA DEMON KANG! AND I'M GONNA KICK YER ARSE!

Paul, who the fuck is this guy?

 

[Conrad Link]

Strowman looked stupid because he was the one that came out and interrupted all big like I'LL KICK YOUR ASS MATE then Bork said OK then Strowman walked away going NAR.

Huh?

 

[Bluekaveli]

now that Emma is back, when will Eva Marie return?

Red is dead. She's not coming back.

 

[Kaladin]

I think after this year we can dispel the notion of a Wrestlemania main event.

Every match with the exception of one or two was worked like a main event and could have been the main on any other PPV. I don't think match order at Mania matters as much anymore.

 

[GunBR]

Strowman looked stupid because he was the one that came out and interrupted all big like I'LL KICK YOUR ASS MATE then Bork said OK then Strowman walked away going NAR.

Huh?

Well, Braun said that he would fight against Brock after he beats Roman

 

[The Strokes]

Wednesday, but this week's is kinda meh because they just taped 3 matches before Takeover. The main event isn't bad, but I'm salty over ruining a good gimmick way too soon. Saying more would spoil it.

Which one?

 

[Bluekaveli]

Fuck what you heard but Summerslam should be Joe v Brock. GOOD LORD! IMAGINE JR CALLING THAT.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

I was going to say how Mania And Rumble season are about old guys and the new ones got a better spot in Summerslam.
But then I remember that Orton was in the main event of last year Summerslam

Isn't Balor only like a year or two younger then Randy?

It's weird Balor is 35. Guy can easily pass for younger.

 

[Kaladin]

Which one?

Spoiler

El Vagabundo

 

[miserable]

Red is dead. She's not coming back.

oh, that's a shame

 

[Caderfix]

I didn't get that. He saw that Brock recognized a threat, and that's all he needed to see.

He asked for Brock's attention, Brock called him out and he walked away. The guy was pushed as pure destruction willing to take on anyone at any time, then he backed out to Show, then Taker and now Brock. And right after losing clean. it doesn't look good for the character. I'd see it the way you are seeing it if it didn't happen so many times already.

 

[kiguel182]

Strowman looked stupid because he was the one that came out and interrupted all big like I'LL KICK YOUR ASS MATE then Bork said OK then Strowman walked away going NAR.

Huh?

It was a dumb segment and dumb booking.

Like when Balor returned to help the man that injured him. For reasons.

 

[The Strokes]

 

[Kaladin]

He asked for Brock's attention, Brock called him out and he walked away. The guy was pushed as pure destruction willing to take on anyone at any time, then he backed out to Show, then Taker and now Brock. And right after losing clean. it doesn't look good for the character.

If you go back far enough, and they do selectively, Brock has fucked him up before. He was stepping up to Brock to see his reaction, not to throwdown.

 

[The Strokes]

Spoiler

El Vagabundo

Oh,

Spoiler

he got unmasked almost right away, right? I think I saw a pic a few pages back

 

[Sephzilla]

Braun's been done dirty the last month or so. Dude has a pretty solid monster heel push going and then they took his teeth away.

 

[Kaladin]

Oh,

Spoiler

he got unmasked almost right away, right? I think I saw a pic a few pages back

Spoiler

Eh, I'll still spoiler it for those that didn't see. They could have run with that gimmick though and I think even got a t-shirt out of it.

 

[excelsiorlef]

You have to also remember that Raw has been short a couple women. Summer is out, Paige is out, Emma was out (then kept off TV for reasons no one will ever understand), Bayley came up post-draft. For a while, the division was just Charlotte and Sasha because they were the only stars they had. Nia needed to be built, and Dana and Alicia were just jobbers because they needed people Sasha and Charlotte could beat/tag with.

Smackdown, by comparison, benefitted from having all their women ready to go from jump, and only have one ready-made star to protect (Becky). Even when they lost Eva, Nikki was there to take her place. Now this isn't to excuse the poor booking decisions made on Raw, but I would argue that side has had a higher hill to climb due to external circumstances.

Sure but if the division was both brands the Raw top stars plus Becky would be dominating most of the air time that's almost guaranteed.

 

[Conrad Link]

There's something seriously wrong with a company that feels like it is going after the angry fan reaction on purpose instead of seemingly trying to get 'fight forever' etc etc good ones. :\

Of course you want angry reactions to eventually get the pay off good one. But I mean, when you have people talking about wishing they could one day be a part of the angry after-WM-Raw crowd cause it looks like fun, like it's an annual thing.... lol.

What was wrong with having a YES! happy after WM30 crowd Vince?

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

I like to imagine Braun stepped down because of continuity from the infamous stiffing from the 2016 Royal Rumble incident.

 

[jmdajr]

Guys Cena is not going to be on Smackdown!

 

[Caderfix]

Amazing.

If you go back far enough, and they do selectively, Brock has fucked him up before. He was stepping up to Brock to see his reaction, not to throwdown.

Well, I hope you are right and that it was just that the direction for the segment wasn't clear enough. They have something special on their hands and it'd be great to see Braun reaching his full potential and going 1 on 1 with Lesnar, as an equal.

 

[Kaladin]

Braun's been done dirty the last month or so. Dude has a pretty solid monster heel push going and then they took his teeth away.

He was used to put Roman over on the way to retiring Taker. I think he'll get his win back on Roman before he heads to Smackdown though.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Guys Cena is not going to be on Smackdown!

I mean we kind of knew that brother

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Emma was really back last night guys.

 

[HazySaiyan]

OK that does it, Batsie definitely writes for RAW

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Guys Cena is not going to be on Smackdown!

He's not going to be on Raw either. He's not scheduled for anything after this week until Survivor Series

 

[Sephzilla]

It's funny that they still peddle the "non traditional fans" thing, which is honestly an excuse to handwave away Roman getting booed out of the building, even though Roman has been getting booed solidly for two years now.

 

[Caderfix]

OK that does it, Batsie definitely writes for RAW

Oh, so it's his fault then. And here I was blaming Zach and Kaladin. I feel bad now.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

OK that does it, Batsie definitely writes for RAW

Edit: Gif making me feel sad of how Bray was beaten so easily.

 

[excelsiorlef]

now that Emma is back, when will Eva Marie return?

She's gone from the company

Either that was the shittiest writing of all time, of Braun must have pissed someone off to do that on Raw and just walk away. Jesus.

Dude is getting over as a cheerable guy so they are trying to get him heat, it's a dumb idea but that's why they are doing it. If he pissed someone off he wouldn't have gotten promo time with Brock Lesnar.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Braun vs Lesnar will probably be the Extreme Rules Universal Title match.

 

[Rhaknar]

so no title match at Payback? lol

gotta love them part timer belt holders

 

[Zach]

1.) Is Jim Ross commentating again? Like, weekly?

2.) Sephzilla, when is the next GWF extravaganza?

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

WrestleMania 33 was the 1st time I watched wrestling, and it blew my mind
lol great recap.

I think the Women's division split into two was more a positive than a negative. However the Tag division is a different story. I hope this "Shakeup" have some tag teams switching more to Smackdown like The Club and Enzo & Cass for one of Smackdown's teams. I think the former mentioned teams would benefit a lot on being in the Smackdown brand than where they are at.

Nah, if Raw is keeping Balor and gaining AJ they need to keep The Club on Raw for that potential reunion or feud. They need to just work on the tag division, I think Smackdown has been a far worse offender in dropping the ball there.

But yes by all means move Enzo and Cass since The New Day probably isn't moving, give Raw American Alpha so they can interact with Kurt and maybe get some work with The Revival again eventually.

"Non Traditional Fans"

That was hilarious and insulting at the same time, those "non traditional fans" are your primary, hardcore audience from various places around the world that you're trying to further expand into who sign up for your online streaming service, possibly buy a lot of merch and potentially spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars in total from Friday to Tuesday on tickets for all these shows, never mind what was probably spent on travel.

 

[RecRoulette]

Oh,

Spoiler

he got unmasked almost right away, right? I think I saw a pic a few pages back

Yeah, it's the same thing that happened with Bo Dallas. Remember Mr NXT?

 

[ReiGun]

Sure but if the division was both brands the Raw top stars plus Becky would be dominating most of the air time that's almost guaranteed.

Oh no I agree that unifying the brands would be bad, mainly cause of the horsewomen. I'm just saying that the differences between the two come down to more than just booking. For a while, Smackdown simply had more bodies to choose from and play around with.

I'm curious to see how the division on Raw works out now that they have more people and the rosters are about to get shaken up. If they're willing to give them more time, I think they could easily stay turning things around.

 

[The Strokes]

I was going to say how Mania And Rumble season are about old guys and the new ones got a better spot in Summerslam.
But then I remember that Orton was in the main event of last year Summerslam

Come to think about it, Orton was in the main event of 3 of the last big 4 ppvs and then won the title at Mania.

The future face of the company.

 

[HazySaiyan]

Goddammit Batsie...

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

I think the Women's division split into two was more a positive than a negative. However the Tag division is a different story. I hope this "Shakeup" have some tag teams switching more to Smackdown like The Club and Enzo & Cass for one of Smackdown's teams. I think the former mentioned teams would benefit a lot on being in the Smackdown brand than where they are at.

I still think the split hurt Woman's division more than it seams, and the tag division is just floundering right now..

Bottom line: The WWE roster is too big

 

[Sephzilla]

2.) Sephzilla, when is the next GWF extravaganza?

I'm going to announce the GWF3 date later this week. With all the WrestleMania and After Mania stuff I figured talking about GWF right now would get lost in the shuffle.

 

[Into the Light]

What is your guys problem with Balor?

I dont think he is a great wrestler, and his mic skills are sub par; but man you guys are really laying into him for things that are beyond hid control, the WWE machine is in control now. All he can do is really take the ball and run with it.

 

[Conrad Link]

I liked it better before WWE themselves started acknowledging the night after WM stuff.

ITS SO ZANY GUYS!! THIS IS THE BIZARRO NIGHT THE NON-TRADITIONAL FANS TAKE OVER IT IS SO FUN LOLOL!

*barf*

It's like when your parents say something is cool and that makes it seem so much less cooler now.

And stop calling the fans who actually care enough about your dumb shit to be angry over it 'non-traditional' and 'wacky'.

 

[Sephzilla]

What is your guys problem with Balor?

I dont think he is a great wrestler, and his mic skills are sub par; but man you guys are really laying into him for things that are beyond hid control, the WWE machine is in control now. All he can do is really take the ball and run with it.

The only issue I have with Balor is that he doesn't do anything different when he's the Demon versus when he's normal. Beyond that I think he's actually an overall pretty solid talent. I think he could use a different finisher too.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

What is your guys problem with Balor?

I dont think he is a great wrestler, and his mic skills are sub par; but man you guys are really laying into him for things that are beyond hid control, the WWE machine is in control now. All he can do is really take the ball and run with it.

My only real problem is the guy and WWE sell the Demon as a different and much more powerful side of Balor but A) he keeps the same moveset and B) regular Balor himself has only been beaten clean by like two people so does the guy even really need a power-up?

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

What is your guys problem with Balor?

I dont think he is a great wrestler, and his mic skills are sub par; but man you guys are really laying into him for things that are beyond hid control, the WWE machine is in control now. All he can do is really take the ball and run with it.

Biggest problem is the whole Demon gimmick doesn't mean anything. He's literally still Finn Balor but with body paint.

 

[Kaladin]

WrestleMania 33 was the 1st time I watched wrestling, and it blew my mind
lol great recap.

That was good. My favorite quote:

Brock wins. He looks like something that climbed out of the Earth's molten core and yelled "I'M HERE, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!" instead of being born.

 

[excelsiorlef]

WrestleMania 33 was the 1st time I watched wrestling, and it blew my mind
lol great recap.

What's wild to me about WWE is that you just let other people beat you up to ensure a performance that will please fans. You're playing a role, and sometimes you have to lose for the greater good of the show. It's a strange variety of selflessness mixed in with incredible ego — you are still, after all, in the ring in front of millions of people. It's strangely moving.

This is beautiful.

AJ pins Shane. AJ wins. I like AJ, but I'm not sure I'm supposed to.

Even a total newbie sees through AJ the heel lol.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

The only issue I have with Balor is that he doesn't do anything different when he's the Demon versus when he's normal. Beyond that I think he's actually an overall pretty solid talent. I think he could use a different finisher too.

If he wrestled with the same style he did against Nakamura in his final nXt match, I'd enjoy that. Basically give him a heel moveset as the demon yet keep him face.

Also him and Seth is quite a sexy tag team.