BewareTheBatsie
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AJ vs Roman at Extreme Rules has been my favorite AJ match so far during his WWE run and the Payback match was good minus the fuckery finish so I welcome those two fighting again.
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Sweeney Tom
Banned
Roman man. Weird times we live in. Acting like a heel, fans acting likes he's a heel, but not presented as a heel.
The plus is that he's getting real heel heat like back in the old days. Some folks will argue that it's bad for business. But it's not like the dude has to carry the company on his back. These days are different now.
Despite what he says, the fans hurt his feelers back in The Rumble. You could see it.
Yes now, he don't give a fuck.
The plus is that he's getting real heel heat like back in the old days. Some folks will argue that it's bad for business. But it's not like the dude has to carry the company on his back. These days are different now.
Despite what he says, the fans hurt his feelers back in The Rumble. You could see it.
Yes now, he don't give a fuck.
excelsiorlef
Member
A smarter movie for Rollins/HHH would have been to cut down 10 minutes and have HHH trying to target the knee but Rollins always protecting it . They did that at the beginning and it worked really well.
I know there's talk about New Day being moved to Smackdown, but I sort of wonder if they could be sending Enzo & Cass as well. After losing their #1 contenders match, I don't see what program they could get themselves into (I guess the Revival? But I feel they're going straight to the title scene). Plus, given how over the Hardyz are, E&C are already getting overshadowed so sending them to SD would give them breathing room.
RecRoulette
Member
I don't know if anyone listens to Crimetown, but the latest episode talks about a high school student who vandalized a billboard, and I laughed at what he did.
Edit: Huh, so this is the "Andre has a posse" guy, and the one who did the Obama Hope poster? Insane.
Edit: Huh, so this is the "Andre has a posse" guy, and the one who did the Obama Hope poster? Insane.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
AA for New Day and Charlotte for Alexa are pretty perfect picks.
New Day are a tag team that are just hanging around on Raw with nothing to do. On Smackdown they can bring a fresh air to the division. AA's best shot at ever being over are if Raw just puts them in a bunch of segments with Kurt Angle playing off the similarities and playing up more comedic stuff other then the generic as fuck tag team Smackdown has made them.
Charlotte's done literally everything she can do on Raw. Smackdown needs both A) a good female wrestler because most of the roster isn't great in the ring and B) a big enough star of a woman with Nikki gone. Alexa herself has already had two big feuds, won the belt twice, and can go to Raw where she and Sasha can start shooting on each other.
New Day are a tag team that are just hanging around on Raw with nothing to do. On Smackdown they can bring a fresh air to the division. AA's best shot at ever being over are if Raw just puts them in a bunch of segments with Kurt Angle playing off the similarities and playing up more comedic stuff other then the generic as fuck tag team Smackdown has made them.
Charlotte's done literally everything she can do on Raw. Smackdown needs both A) a good female wrestler because most of the roster isn't great in the ring and B) a big enough star of a woman with Nikki gone. Alexa herself has already had two big feuds, won the belt twice, and can go to Raw where she and Sasha can start shooting on each other.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
If a wrestling angle establishes that one of the wrestlers has an injury, then I expect it to be worked on in the match.
I actually advise everyone to listen to the Jericho interview. Like Jericho said, there's 2 versions of Reigns. There's the one you seen on screen with the "beating everyone" and mega-push but then there's this guy on the podcast. It's like he's a completely different guys and it's the reason that he's that way off-camera that they love him backstage. If they let him be himself, as you hear on the podcast, he'd probably get over.
Maaaaaannnnnnn where are you from? He sounds pretty normal. I live in the Southern US and Reigns sounds like a regular guy here. He actually sounds like a great leader. He's like that cool kid in the back of the class who talks to everyone and has fun but when the time comes to get busy he can do it. Roman said throughout the podcast that it's about family, brotherhood and teamwork so idk where you're saying he sounds like he doesn't care about anything. That's pretty much the main thing he talked about. He never acted like money was bigger than he was and each time he mentioned it he said "I have a daughter to feed, I'm at the head of the household" type of stuff.
I also don't know what you mean by saying he doesn't care about anyone or anything. He said he wishes everyone could be world champion and if he had the power he'd make it that way, said he doesn't feel like he's the "star player" and that they're all an entire big team and he can't do it alone hence why he doesn't feel like the star. He also said that anyone who let's him go over is the most thoughtful selfless thing they could do in the business and even gave a shoutout to Sheamus. Idk this comment from him says it all to me.
I mean even at one point Reigns said that when someone new's there he tries to be cool with them and help them out.
The comments on the fans is something everyone says too. His comments on his looks could be taken both ways too because he was actually giving himself a lot of shots through that podcast towards how he used to look to how he wasn't the man in FCW, how he isn't a star now, how he's needed others, he even made a joke about himself wishing Shield was around longer because he thought he'd be getting that hot tag for a minute.
If anything the biggest thing I took from this is that Reigns is pretty humble.
Lesnar doesn't like people, hates working with others, only cares about money. Reigns loves people, always helps them out, he's great with communicating off-camera and he's all about teamwork.
Maaaaaannnnnnn where are you from? He sounds pretty normal. I live in the Southern US and Reigns sounds like a regular guy here. He actually sounds like a great leader. He's like that cool kid in the back of the class who talks to everyone and has fun but when the time comes to get busy he can do it. Roman said throughout the podcast that it's about family, brotherhood and teamwork so idk where you're saying he sounds like he doesn't care about anything. That's pretty much the main thing he talked about. He never acted like money was bigger than he was and each time he mentioned it he said "I have a daughter to feed, I'm at the head of the household" type of stuff.
I also don't know what you mean by saying he doesn't care about anyone or anything. He said he wishes everyone could be world champion and if he had the power he'd make it that way, said he doesn't feel like he's the "star player" and that they're all an entire big team and he can't do it alone hence why he doesn't feel like the star. He also said that anyone who let's him go over is the most thoughtful selfless thing they could do in the business and even gave a shoutout to Sheamus. Idk this comment from him says it all to me.
I mean even at one point Reigns said that when someone new's there he tries to be cool with them and help them out.
The comments on the fans is something everyone says too. His comments on his looks could be taken both ways too because he was actually giving himself a lot of shots through that podcast towards how he used to look to how he wasn't the man in FCW, how he isn't a star now, how he's needed others, he even made a joke about himself wishing Shield was around longer because he thought he'd be getting that hot tag for a minute.
If anything the biggest thing I took from this is that Reigns is pretty humble.
He's completely different from Lesnar
Lesnar doesn't like people, hates working with others, only cares about money. Reigns loves people, always helps them out, he's great with communicating off-camera and he's all about teamwork.
It ain't gonna happen. The commentary team should at least start playing it neutral, and stop muting the crowd.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
I'm not going to lie. I look forward to seeing the reaction Reigns gets. Its one of my favorite things in wrestling. I also really liked his one line promo on Raw.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I don't mind matches working an injured limb. I hate matches where an injured limb is worked and it's continuously no sold throughout the match and the person with the injured limb then wins.
Basically Seth vs HHH was shit in that regard.
Basically Seth vs HHH was shit in that regard.
RecRoulette
Member
Man, I felt terrible for him during the Rumble. You could tell that he was expecting to be his coronation, only to get shit on. The Rock's reaction said it all. They sent Roman to a firing squad and no one saw it coming (except for all of the fans, of course)
I think the fact that the sent Rock out there shows they absolutely saw it coming. Rock was there to placate the crowd, thankfully the crowd saw right through it.
Filling stadiums of that size takes a LONG TIME. That's why those preshows exist, so people who are sitting in the seats 2 hours early have something to watch. And the musical performances give everyone a chance to take a piss and buy some merch.
Yeah, that stuff doesn't play on TV, but it's a by-product of running these enormous venues and a necessary evil.
Bluekaveli
Member
RecRoulette
Member
True, they saw it coming, but didn't expect it to be as bad as it was.
excelsiorlef
Member
It's why I really wanted Reigns on Smackdown.... Reigns on Talking Smack with Daniel Bryan could do wonders for his character,
You can see it now too. I don't buy he's over it.
I didn't get the chance to watch much of Raw live, so I'm watching the replay on Hulu.
Nia Jax has almost zero TV awareness when it comes to playing up to the camera. It's like she forgets that the hard camera exists. That, and her making a funny face to the camera during her entrance.............her character as a whole has zero direction at this point.
Nia Jax has almost zero TV awareness when it comes to playing up to the camera. It's like she forgets that the hard camera exists. That, and her making a funny face to the camera during her entrance.............her character as a whole has zero direction at this point.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Dave talked some more about the Mauro stuff. Genuinely upsetting heinous shit
There's way more on it in the actual issue. At one point he says "The belief across-the-board is Layfields weeding out those who cant take it comes from above".Dave said:
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I think some people don't like the fact that he is basically mocking fans for booing him.
"If that makes you look good in front of your friends go for it."
It's not exactly the same as Miz wanting fans to boo him or hate him. I think the guy still hasn't come to grips that some people literally hate him. Not as a character but as a person, even though, he is playing a character.
I don't hate him, but he does act with some sort of cognitive dissonance of why people boo. Almost Trump like. As long as he uses it to feed his character it can work.
Yeah, I think that's accurate. They probably figured the crowd would be (rightfully) upset since Daniel Bryan went out relatively early. But didn't expect the crowd to be so pissed they'd boo The Rock. Rock's reaction to the whole thing is fucking great. He gets that brief pop and then it all immediately turns to boos again. Rock's face is like "shit, I haven't had this much heat since i shit on the Kings in Sacramento"
UrbanDandy
Member
What's the point of having another show? Jesus...
Vince just likes to pander that predictability.
RecRoulette
Member
Wait, what exactly did JBL do? Do they know that much?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I've mentioned numerous incidents that were actually made public before, but obviously that's just the stuff that's admitted.
100% agree.
Reigns backstage and off-camera is actually that dude that they need. The problem is how he's presented on-stage and there's a disconnect. A SDL trade would do him wonders. It's a completely different version of himself when you hear that podcast. He's exactly what the wrestlers say he is but then you get him on-screen. A big problem is that when wrestlers say he's a good guy and he's fun and everything they want us to believe it but all we see is what we see on-screen which is damaged due to his booking. We don't know how he is backstage. With that said they often let their view of him backstage change how he's viewed when the cameras are on.
But until he either goes heel, switches brands or until someone takes his spot, he'll continue to be screwed up sadly.
He's generally a cool dude.
SallyIsNow
Banned
I wish the druids wore a black cloth over their face. Or at least pick some not so dorky ones.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Ya'll spend way too much time trying to come up with ideal scenarios and dream bookings around the roster and moves.
Just sit back, and soak it in. Seriously. The less you try and figure out "why" or "how" the more enjoyable it all becomes.
Just sit back, and soak it in. Seriously. The less you try and figure out "why" or "how" the more enjoyable it all becomes.
Bluekaveli
Member
... Sonjay Dutt turned down a full time wwe deal to go back to tna. How can you be so stupid?
Meltzer said he wouldn't be surprised if they just split Mania into two nights. 3 hour show each night so that people aren't burnt out by the 5th hour.
Now that WWE has basically made Mania into a 4 day event anyways with Hall of Fame, NXT, Mania and Raw after Mania (not to mention all the other shit happening at the same time), I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to milk the hardest of the hardcore even harder by making Mania a 2 night show.
Now that WWE has basically made Mania into a 4 day event anyways with Hall of Fame, NXT, Mania and Raw after Mania (not to mention all the other shit happening at the same time), I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to milk the hardest of the hardcore even harder by making Mania a 2 night show.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
They won't go into detail because it's obviously personal stuff, all that's known is bullying did occur and it was severe enough Mauro relapsed into a depressive state, and it was essentially ignored by the company (at least in the sense that JBL faced no consequences for it besides having to delete one further instigating tweet after Mauro missed his first SD of absence for it)
SallyIsNow
Banned
The TNA pot is boiling hot and it's about to spill it's hot white foam on the world of wrestling, friend.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
remember when everyone thought he didn't raise the belt because the crowd might boo since they were shitting so hard on the belt but then it came out it's because he'd probably have popped his shoulder even more from raising his arm that high
No one's ever accused Brock of being a nice likable guy.
...then why didn't he raise it with his good arm?
That's not what "Fuck that owl" means.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
How is AJ not a top guy?
Why spend 200 dollars for one night, when you can spend 400 for two!
BewareTheBatsie
Member
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Roman's issue isn't a heel or baby issue.
even he hits the nail on the head: Roman's biggest problem is Vince.
Roman talks about the crowd doing what its going to do and he is right. So why jump across the line to change affiliation? His moto is to be himself but the problem here is, of course, the scripts he's given.
The thing with scripts: it is hard to learn how to regurgitate them while sounding natural. That in and of itself is an entirely different skill set that many people train for years to master. While these guys and gals are in the entertainment business, they're not learning classical acting training.
Yes, they're learning promos, gimmicks and characters, but I have seen nothing to suggest the trainers in development know how to teach delivery.
Fuck, you look at Sasha, Bayley and Roman...they all suffer from being unable to sound natural when bouncing words off a script.
Roman's problem isn't a baby or heel problem imho. The guy needs to be the dude who sat on that Jericho podcast a few days back. Listen to that guy. That is one cool dude.
edit: just ready cordy's post. excellent post, cordy
even he hits the nail on the head: Roman's biggest problem is Vince.
Roman talks about the crowd doing what its going to do and he is right. So why jump across the line to change affiliation? His moto is to be himself but the problem here is, of course, the scripts he's given.
The thing with scripts: it is hard to learn how to regurgitate them while sounding natural. That in and of itself is an entirely different skill set that many people train for years to master. While these guys and gals are in the entertainment business, they're not learning classical acting training.
Yes, they're learning promos, gimmicks and characters, but I have seen nothing to suggest the trainers in development know how to teach delivery.
Fuck, you look at Sasha, Bayley and Roman...they all suffer from being unable to sound natural when bouncing words off a script.
Roman's problem isn't a baby or heel problem imho. The guy needs to be the dude who sat on that Jericho podcast a few days back. Listen to that guy. That is one cool dude.
edit: just ready cordy's post. excellent post, cordy
Tom Nook
Member
RecRoulette
Member
Yeah, I remember that tweet. What a piece of shit, both JBL and the folks above him responsible for not doing anything about it.
Also didn't know Joey Styles knocked him out on a plane before, OH MY GOD.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
Confused by that as well. I don't see how there can be any doubt that AJ was Smackdown's top guy. Given, its kind of by default since Cena is a part timer now.
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