I had some guy that would lend me the print version after he would be done with it. Man I just couldn't stand it. Shit is unreadable. It basically wants to convert me into a miserable viewer. No thanks.
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I had some guy that would lend me the print version after he would be done with it. Man I just couldn't stand it. Shit is unreadable. It basically wants to convert me into a miserable viewer. No thanks.
If you're going to run a dead baby storyline you might as well bring back Lita and Snitsky.
And you guys thought that TNA was the company that refused to die.
Mae Young was there last night, and Mark Henry hasn't had anything solid to do other then be a plotdevice for Y2J/Punk... I see options here.
haha, so that's where that is from.
After this trailer was posted advertising Vince Russo's Youshoot Live iPPV on June 1st insinuating that Jim Cornette would be involved, Cornette had this to say:
I wish I wasn't working that night so I could watch this live.
I wish I wasn't working that night so I could watch this live.
mightynine
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British Monsoon
Member
Shit, I just realised that today is the first anniversary of Larry Sweeney's death 
12 Large, brother - still missed, still one of the absolute best guys on the mic I've ever seen. It's criminal he never made it to the big leagues, could've been the next Heenan.
12 Large, brother - still missed, still one of the absolute best guys on the mic I've ever seen. It's criminal he never made it to the big leagues, could've been the next Heenan.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
I was watching WM22 the other day, and the main event was HHH versus Cena. JR talked about how it was old school versus new school, and it pretty much was. All the people who normally hated and derided HHH for his influence over mcmahon were on his side because as much as they hated him, he at least represented how they thought wrestling should be. Cena really got laid into by the fans (there were "f-you cena" and "you can't wrestle" chants).
Six years later, Cena's pretty much the same guy with the same schtick except his promo's have gotten worse, and brock's come in to do what HHH was doing then.
Six years later, Cena's pretty much the same guy with the same schtick except his promo's have gotten worse, and brock's come in to do what HHH was doing then.
BoboBrazil
Member
That's how I feel. I liked it more when it was comical bad. Now it's just there
I actually loved Impact in the beginning of the Hogan era. With mr. Anderson/Angle fued, Ric Flair and AJ, Pope getting a push and awesome tag team wrestling.
Yeah it was much more entertaining then. Russo was putting on some creative stuff. Hogan and Bischoff have continued to make the product worse and worse over the last 2 years since coming in. Now it's all the bad finishes and frequent heel/face turns without the exciting storylines. Hopefully things get better after Lockdown, but I doubt it. The only wrestlers I care about now on the roster are Austin Aries, MCMG, and Samoa Joe.
Also in regards to Sheamus, why is it when you become a top face they they try to make him the funny cool smirking face like John Cena? He was fine being himself before. They did the same shit to CM Punk. It's horrible. They are doing everything in their power to try and get people to cheer him. Being supported by legends, hitting the ref to appear cool, knocking people out in seconds. He's flopping as champion.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Shit, I just realised that today is the first anniversary of Larry Sweeney's death
12 Large, brother - still missed, still one of the absolute best guys on the mic I've ever seen. It's criminal he never made it to the big leagues, could've been the next Heenan.
Larry Sweeny died?! :\
British Monsoon
Member
Yeah, he had all sorts of personal problems and was struggling with bipolar disorder - he hung himself from one of the ring-posts at the wrestling school he was training at
Mr. Luchador
Member
Aww man.
He was awesome in CHIKARA and had just started to break into ROH before I stopped watching wrestling for a while.
He was awesome in CHIKARA and had just started to break into ROH before I stopped watching wrestling for a while.
Dolph Ziggler is the new Mr. Perfect.
Nocturnowl
Member
Oh yeah, there was a funny one before WM this year where it advertised the match as Undertaker vs Chavo Guerrero but it was in fact HHH vs CM Punk.
When they first started doing those a few years back we at least got ppv matches, now they just show random SD matches from the past 3 years.
Perspicacity
Banned
Aww man.
He was awesome in CHIKARA and had just started to break into ROH before I stopped watching wrestling for a while.
Chikara held a half-year long tournament in his honour last year to crown their first Grand Champion. The whole thing is out on DVD and it's totes worth picking up.
abstract alien
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UberTag
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They've always had hooks in place to get faces over with the fans. It just seems more blatant now that the booking itself has become so one-dimensional.
You have main event faces who cut Cena promos, jobber/tag team/high flyer faces who don't cut promos at all or are made out to be easily duped foils, monster heels who get fed jobbers/midcarders (and also don't cut promos) and cowardly heels who always lose, always run away, always cheat and hide behind valets, announcers and girlfriends. There are little if any variations to these archetypes so it all comes across as very transparent.
Unfortunately, the technique they employ for main event faces works on Jimmies and merchandise pushers but doesn't work on hardcore fans who read between the lines and feel their intelligence being insulted. It also doesn't help that these guys seldom lose and have artificially limited movesets.
Which is why last night's blatant "love Sheamus, damn it" pandering rubbed most people here the wrong way.
He is now Fluttersheamus and we're the woodland creatures who want nothing to do with him. (Oh yes, I went there.)
Mr. Luchador
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Oh crap, now you mention that I think I remember it being mentioned during High Noon. It went completely over my head. :\
It's too bad NXT ruined debuts. With NXT, you have certain fans (umm smarks) that knew Skip Sheffield before the repackage. You knew Levi as Husky Harris. All it takes is about 25-30 smarks chanting Husky Harris .. clap clap clap clap .. Husky Harris ...
I like that the E does not deny past history with A-Train/Prince Albert.
Liquidsnake
Banned
That's what has made me so sick to my stomach with that bastard!
The weird thing is I don't even find him amusing, or entertaining. He is the most vomit inducing wrestler who is considered top tier I have ever witnessed. I could take a 15 year Hogan face run before I could take a 12 months of Cena. I wish the WWE had a bounty system =)
Certain fans? Skip Sheffield had a match at Summerslam a year and a half ago!
I don't disagree. I just wish the E had someone for a third generation wrestler. Dolph vs. D Bry is this generations Perfect vs. Hart. I for one can't wait for this to happen.
Skip Sheffield is about as forgettable as Curtis Hawkins. He was a small cog in a large storyline disaster which was Nexus. How many average fans cared about Nexus?
I thought Nexus was pretty over. I would see lots of Nexus shirts. Then again everyone that bought them was probably a Cena hater. So not the average fan.
Nocturnowl
Member
It's pretty sad that the small list cast of character types there are pretty much correct, lets add that if certain character types become successful they get demoted, a great heel that reaches the main event and manages to get over with the crowd becomes a cookie cutter face, a monster heel that actually reaches the top slowly loses their dominating abilities, possibly with shades of cowardly heel.
And Sheamus shouldn't be compared to such
superior
HHH was ahead of the game, well he is THE game.
Cerebral Assassin bitches!
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Can't watch the vid, is that his awesome harley race homage?
They were certainly over but died over time. Too many members to care for all of them. The stalwart and main draw of Nexus was Barrett. Unfortunate for Skip that he broke his ankle when they were hot. Well, maybe fortunate for Skip because I think his repackage as Ryback might get him somewhere.
BoboBrazil
Member
TNA getting a 2nd show? Impact going 3 hours?
How do you think Lagana is doing? Haven't watched TNA at all this year ..
Nocturnowl
Member
"looks to me like the game just got a whole lot more interesting"
*smug laughter*
It certainly is, in which case I guess Race was even further ahead of the game.
Del Rio should steal this idea next, he has vast wealth (in kayfabe), put a bounty on Sheamus and lets see them Irish bar room brawl skills put to good use, and the jobbers, they can be backstage fodder.
DKehoe
Member
Someone needs to do the same for IWA:MS.
Nocturnowl
Member
I could have sworn he was some masked guy last time I checked, did that gimmick not pan out well for him?
BoboBrazil
Member
Things slowed down alot. It's become more of a PG product since Russo left, but the storylines they are working off of are the ones created last year. After Lockdown things are supposed to start fresh since they book storylines 6 months at a time. They are still doing questionable finishes, but the last ppv was much improved over the previous ones. Personally I enjoyed the product much more without Hogan and Bischoff.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
We do need more gauntlet matches
Texas bullrope match! Lets have one of those!
Sir_Crocodile
Member
If we're going crazy bring back pink slip on a pole
cena vs cole
it can be billed as "whoever loses, we win"
Nocturnowl
Member
Boiler Room Brawl or chain match, Extreme Rules is coming up, shove Kane/Orton in one of these gimmicks.
Instead we'll get a pipe on a pole match.
Instead we'll get a pipe on a pole match.
FallingEdge
Member
It has happened multiple times and all those matches have been fantastic.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Hogan not being able to wrestle has really hurt. Hes not very engaging. Bischoff really seems like he doesn't enjoy being on TV anymore. Its weird to see Flair and Hogan who could be so engaging on the mic, totally lose their skills. I can't explain it, just doesn't seem like the same people.
The big problem I have with TNA is Garrett Bischoff. I actually agree with Steiner .. the following are his latest tweets. The only monster they have in Abyss and this is what they do. Steiner laying down some "common sense" ..
Oh,yeah bcuz Garrett is 28 yrs has had less than 10 matches has great sideburns cant throw a clothline
And is the future of wrestling Fuck! But the guy they r burying the worst is abyss.fucking why!
They made him take off his mask cut his hair n walk around sayin he is abyss's brother
Which makes everybody look stupid,like we dont know what abyss looks like,what he never took off his mask
Why...abyss has bn there from the begining n is a nice guy...but they just fuck with everybody bcuz they r assholes
I should clarify that I want PPV matches. Give me an iron man match or two/three falls. Give them a solid 40-45 minutes. Have them go for two to three PPVs.
BoboBrazil
Member
Yeah, Garret Bischoff is garbage, has no talent, and is getting pushed because he is Eric's son. They are using Jeff Hardy, Kurt Angle, and Hulk Hogan to get the guy over and still noone cares about him.
Liquidsnake
Banned
No one ever will. A storyline using him as a ref would have been much more interesting.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Sounds like the thing that King said allowed him to take over the Memphis territory, where the promoter relentlessly shoved his talentless son down peoples throats until it killed the towns.
Does dixy think eric farts rainbows or something? He killed wcw for heavens sake.
Send that buck to the Power Plant and make him do squats with Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker .. get him off TV and I'll start watching.