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April Wrasslin' |OT2| The Coronation of The King of Swing
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The best thing about WM18 was that I think it finally validated my belief that HHH was never in the same league as Austin or Rock. To be fair though, that crowd wasnt completely dead for their match.
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Honestly I think Sheamus would benefit from a steady tag team.
Dark Ninja
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I hate that dumb 10 hit chest pound he does, its as contrived as the Orton middle rope DDT but worse.
He would if the tag division wasn't being dismantled right now
Marvel
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And if you look closely in that picture... he'd also benefit from, you guessed it his soul patch! it's the key to his power.
slightconfuse
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Sheamus should use the razors edge again and be Irish razor Ramon .
British Monsoon
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I like it - it might be contrived, but it's pretty much the only spot like that in WWE these days. No one does the 10 punches in the corner spot any more, it seems.
blackaroni
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I hate that too, but I like Orton's DDT. I also hate that he just has to get the upper hand in EVERYTHING. I just think he's a bland and boring fella.
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Remember the good times. I miss this Punk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJb_lSP_ZcY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJb_lSP_ZcY
British Monsoon
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This was supposed to happen at Chapter 12, but they had to shuffle the card because of injuries, so I'm real glad they could make it happen at Chapter 13. Ligero's impressed me a ton over the past year or so and Tommy End's finally making good on the promise he's shown in wXw for years now, so this should be an excellent match.
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BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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I like Sheamus, he has been screwed out of three good wrestlemania matches now; if the Wrestlemania 29 match against Bryan was the one he had one month later, who knows how it would all be now. He probably would not be The Top Guy like everyone apparently needs to be to not swim on the ocean of the meaningless midcard, but I think he would look a lot better right now.
I think he falls into the lack of good heels problem that WWE is having now. I think he needs a good, solid midcard feud, something they tried to do with Christian, but, you know, done right, not 5 matches every week so we grow tired of it. And they were having good matches, too, it was just... damn, it felt like there were so many of them. Any of those Christian matches without context looks good, but when context makes your match worse, that's just plain bad booking.
I think he falls into the lack of good heels problem that WWE is having now. I think he needs a good, solid midcard feud, something they tried to do with Christian, but, you know, done right, not 5 matches every week so we grow tired of it. And they were having good matches, too, it was just... damn, it felt like there were so many of them. Any of those Christian matches without context looks good, but when context makes your match worse, that's just plain bad booking.
serenewarfare
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I like how anytime Reigns comes up, there's always a group of people getting upset about things he hasn't even done yet.
Baby girl, it's only a matter of time
blackaroni
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BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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New LEGITSHOOK.COM 3 Jiff Panel Comic:
I hope you like this one, Sunny.
I hope you like this one, Sunny.
Is this on Youtube?
I gotta agree with you that HHH was never in the same league. I don't know that anyone would walk out on a main event with those two in it, even after the awesomeness of Hogan/Rock. But I was there for WM18 and there were a ton of people walking out during that main event. They were either just burnt out or just didn't care.
bean breath
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It exposes the business according to Good Ol' J.R.
I'm surprised you don't listen to the Ross Report.
British Monsoon
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Averno's quit CMLL.
If you guys remember, he was the guy WWE were reportedly signing for Sin Cara to work with, but then Cara got injured and Averno stayed in Mexico (CMLL had already unmasked him when it looked like he was leaving for WWE, though). Guess he'll go to AAA to reignite his rivalry with Sin Cara.
Not too keen on podcasts, I'll tune in when he gets Stan Hansen and Bill Watts on, though.
Also, JR thinks a bunch of stuff exposes the business. Hell, he's sat witness to and called commentary over bunch of stuff that exposed the business.
If you guys remember, he was the guy WWE were reportedly signing for Sin Cara to work with, but then Cara got injured and Averno stayed in Mexico (CMLL had already unmasked him when it looked like he was leaving for WWE, though). Guess he'll go to AAA to reignite his rivalry with Sin Cara.
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Not too keen on podcasts, I'll tune in when he gets Stan Hansen and Bill Watts on, though.
Also, JR thinks a bunch of stuff exposes the business. Hell, he's sat witness to and called commentary over bunch of stuff that exposed the business.
blackaroni
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Aren't there multiple "main events" at Wrestlemania now?
bean breath
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Three if you count the Christian hardcore title segment as a match.
Really? Ticketmaster just calls the seat map "WWE Raw".
The chat was that since there's a lot of space around the ring in that diagram, they're planning to have two rings.
Some people really want to see a War Games match.
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I think we need more stuff like time limit draws. If you're on a televised wrestling show that has a 3 hour run time, it makes sense that the matches should have time limits.
Overall, while everyone knows its fake, I wish they'd go back to at least pretending it was a semi legitimate sport that had rules and stuff like time limits and all that jazz.
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ViewtifulJC
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2000-2001 HHH was the shit, and had a lot of great angles/matches with Foley, The Rock, Austin, Jericho, Benoit, Angle, etc. Hell, even the match he went out on was godlike. He wasn't as popular as Rock or Austin, but he was the top heel in the business and he worked in and outside the ring.
Then that mothafucka came back like 30 pounds too big and wasn't the worker he used to be. Every now and again you'd get HHH/HBK at SS '02 or that Batista/HHH HITC match that ended Evolution...but most of it was like Katie Vick and burying RVD and PEOPLE LIKE BOOKER T CAN'T WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS DO A DANCE FOR ME BOOK and two months of awful Scott Steiner shit. I think the nadir of this era was the elimination chamber at SS '03 where HHH couldn't work, so he gets superkicked by Shawn at the beginning, spends 20 MINUTES selling this and lying on the ground, then buries Goldberg with a Sledgehammer at the end and wins the WWE championship.
edit: '92 WarGames is the shit
Then that mothafucka came back like 30 pounds too big and wasn't the worker he used to be. Every now and again you'd get HHH/HBK at SS '02 or that Batista/HHH HITC match that ended Evolution...but most of it was like Katie Vick and burying RVD and PEOPLE LIKE BOOKER T CAN'T WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS DO A DANCE FOR ME BOOK and two months of awful Scott Steiner shit. I think the nadir of this era was the elimination chamber at SS '03 where HHH couldn't work, so he gets superkicked by Shawn at the beginning, spends 20 MINUTES selling this and lying on the ground, then buries Goldberg with a Sledgehammer at the end and wins the WWE championship.
edit: '92 WarGames is the shit
Speaking of exposing the business, I was just watching the Bash at the Beach 2000 Hogan/Jarrett/Russo thing, and I imagined myself watching from the perspective of someone who bought the PPV at the time. It kinda blows my mind that someone paid probably $40-50 to watch a performance, and that meta bullshit is what they got, and then I did some reading and found out that they did the lay down thing before with Sting. Wow.
Professor Beef
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I will say it directly to anybody's ugly face that Wargames was never good, and will never be good.
I love you, you should write more.
Ric Flair is the newest member of Evolution!
Shield are going to murder him dead.
British Monsoon
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There aren't enough of them - time limits add in an interesting dynamic for both heels & faces towards the end of the match, as they scramble to get the win (or avoid a loss) with limited time remaining and a draw can be very useful as well, storytelling wise. They're good for 2/3 falls matches, something else there's a lack of today.
Personally, I'd like more count-outs and DQ finishes. Actually, fuck it, I'll just go back to watching 80's wrasslin.
Incidentally, if UFC's popularity is actually used as consideration for what is and isn't believable, then why we still got "submissions" that take forever to tap a guy out and weak, weak looking strikes from 95% of the roster?