It's one of the shows I'll play on Netflix for background noise. Archer, Scrubs, Arrested Development.
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Archer [Mafia] |OT| Wait, I Had Something For This
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It's one of the shows I'll play on Netflix for background noise. Archer, Scrubs, Arrested Development.
QuantumBro
Banned
With about an hour left, here's an updated vote count.
Burbeting - 1 - Razmos (L-11)
cooljeanius - 4 - El Topo, EzekelRAGE, Haly, Mike_Hawk689 (L-8)
Enker - 1 - cabbeh (L-11)
EzekelRAGE - 1 - cooljeanius (L-11)
GreatLord Tiger - 6 - Burbeting, Palmer_v1, Septimus Prime, TheGoddamn, Visualante2, Zubz (L-6)
Mazre - 1 - Enker (L-11)
Seath - 2 - Hobohodo, roytheone (L-10)
Septimus Prime - 2 - GreatLord Tiger, YesNOnoNOYes (L-10)
squidyj - 1 - Arkos (L-11)
Visualante2 - 3 - Quantumbro, Seath, squidyj (L-9)
Zubz - 1 - Mazre (L-11)
Players not voting:
Burbeting - 1 - Razmos (L-11)
cooljeanius - 4 - El Topo, EzekelRAGE, Haly, Mike_Hawk689 (L-8)
Enker - 1 - cabbeh (L-11)
EzekelRAGE - 1 - cooljeanius (L-11)
GreatLord Tiger - 6 - Burbeting, Palmer_v1, Septimus Prime, TheGoddamn, Visualante2, Zubz (L-6)
Mazre - 1 - Enker (L-11)
Seath - 2 - Hobohodo, roytheone (L-10)
Septimus Prime - 2 - GreatLord Tiger, YesNOnoNOYes (L-10)
squidyj - 1 - Arkos (L-11)
Visualante2 - 3 - Quantumbro, Seath, squidyj (L-9)
Zubz - 1 - Mazre (L-11)
Players not voting:
I've found every interaction of Haly with regard to the missions to be weird.
I mean, first he argues that he can understand why people want to go on missions because it can save them from getting night killed. then he turns around and calls the missions useless like the gossip chat from Animal Crossing Mafia.
In one of his first posts he says to me that he thinks town hunts scum then he spends days just going on about the missions while decrying talking about the missions as fluff, meanwhile he does precious little scumhunting. Finally he throws in a vote for roy, on the basis of..... "talking about missions is fluff and so implementing a system for missions is bad because then people will talk about missions like how I've been talking about missions and not doing what I said a good town should be doing".
Then a lot of people from AC defended Razmos but what I found interesting was when I tried to point out the differences in Razmos' play from the start of that game to this game, others accepted that, yes, it was different (though they still defended Razmos) but not Haly.
And now I've spent all this time and effort and we're no closer to lynching visualante which is what I really want.
I mean, first he argues that he can understand why people want to go on missions because it can save them from getting night killed. then he turns around and calls the missions useless like the gossip chat from Animal Crossing Mafia.
In one of his first posts he says to me that he thinks town hunts scum then he spends days just going on about the missions while decrying talking about the missions as fluff, meanwhile he does precious little scumhunting. Finally he throws in a vote for roy, on the basis of..... "talking about missions is fluff and so implementing a system for missions is bad because then people will talk about missions like how I've been talking about missions and not doing what I said a good town should be doing".
Then a lot of people from AC defended Razmos but what I found interesting was when I tried to point out the differences in Razmos' play from the start of that game to this game, others accepted that, yes, it was different (though they still defended Razmos) but not Haly.
And now I've spent all this time and effort and we're no closer to lynching visualante which is what I really want.
All this talk about me posting "fluff" and pressuring me to post more "quality" post won't really work. I don't mind getting evicted/lynched. I just want to have fun!
If my posts are fluff and bothering people then based Ourobolous can mod kill me if it really is a problem.
I'm just having fun in my own way.
I was already eyeing VisualAnte2 and The Goddamn. As I said, anyone with low post counts. Although, I get that voting for someone inactive by almost the end of the day doesn't really give much of a chance to said player to defend him/herself.
But still... I'm sticking to my gut feelings.
If my posts are fluff and bothering people then based Ourobolous can mod kill me if it really is a problem.
I'm just having fun in my own way.
I was already eyeing VisualAnte2 and The Goddamn. As I said, anyone with low post counts. Although, I get that voting for someone inactive by almost the end of the day doesn't really give much of a chance to said player to defend him/herself.
But still... I'm sticking to my gut feelings.
I'll address this, I guess.
I really wish you would stop lying like this. This is the second time I caught you misrepresenting history, the first being the AC game and your claims of "lynching strong players".
Please, I was the one who tried to get us off this volunteer shit that ate up 2 days in the first place. You were the one who kept bringing it up and I felt obligated to address it so you would stop.
Fair.
This is Day 1, not Day 2 or 3. New players can't pick up their activity if they're never given the chance to.
I've found every interaction of Haly with regard to the missions to be weird.
I mean, first he argues that he can understand why people want to go on missions because it can save them from getting night killed. then he turns around and calls the missions useless like the gossip chat from Animal Crossing Mafia.
In one of his first posts he says to me that he thinks town hunts scum then he spends days just going on about the missions while decrying talking about the missions as fluff, meanwhile he does precious little scumhunting. Finally he throws in a vote for roy, on the basis of..... "talking about missions is fluff and so implementing a system for missions is bad because then people will talk about missions like how I've been talking about missions and not doing what I said a good town should be doing".
Then a lot of people from AC defended Razmos but what I found interesting was when I tried to point out the differences in Razmos' play from the start of that game to this game, others accepted that, yes, it was different (though they still defended Razmos) but not Haly.
And now I've spent all this time and effort and we're no closer to lynching visualante which is what I really want.
I'm in a bad place to judge any of that because I thought ALL of the mission planning discussion was a waste and can't reference AC with you guys.
You could always follow your gut and re-vote for me
I wanna lynch someone. Ain't happening with you.
Yet. More days will come.
Anyway, to avoid any late surprise, I also change my vote to Tiger. Sorry buddy, someone always has to die.
UNVOTE:cooljeanius
VOTE:GreatLord Tiger
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ok caught up. you guys move fast during these hours wtf x____x
Visualante2 - I dont like that he is a sudden front runner for votes when he's not even here to defend himself, but looking over the quality of his contributions he has not added much value to our glorious Agency. But squidyj really came with a sudden hard swerve with this one and I must admit there is a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil voice in my head that goes, "is this finally the scums' attempt to save le petit tigre~"
Seath - haha it is just an avatar so probbies :> glad to see you are posting more and playing the game, though ! but the timing is suspect and so close to deadline...
EzekelRAGE - wah, too bad your analysis bit the dust :< I'd like to see your legendary playstyle moving forward so I definitely will not be voting for you for now.
I'm still undecided but I WILL be changing my vote soon. ....It's a toss up between Visualante2 and GreatLord Tiger at this stage, but let me just do a quick re-read to make my mind up.
oh god its 6 am now.
Visualante2 - I dont like that he is a sudden front runner for votes when he's not even here to defend himself, but looking over the quality of his contributions he has not added much value to our glorious Agency. But squidyj really came with a sudden hard swerve with this one and I must admit there is a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil voice in my head that goes, "is this finally the scums' attempt to save le petit tigre~"
Seath - haha it is just an avatar so probbies :> glad to see you are posting more and playing the game, though ! but the timing is suspect and so close to deadline...
EzekelRAGE - wah, too bad your analysis bit the dust :< I'd like to see your legendary playstyle moving forward so I definitely will not be voting for you for now.
I'm still undecided but I WILL be changing my vote soon. ....It's a toss up between Visualante2 and GreatLord Tiger at this stage, but let me just do a quick re-read to make my mind up.
oh god its 6 am now.
misrepresenting history? I was right on both counts. mafia just needs to space their volunteers and depending on how many there are they can be on as many as ALL the missions. You didn't mention your flaws at all! burbeting pointed them out, how in the actual fuck am I lying?
Well to your credit I will say that VisualAnte is much more scum-vibeish than The Goddamn, since the latter has made more contributive posts.
If I wanted to save tiger I'd go in for jeanius that's the high probability shot. What I want to do is actually hit mafia today, of course Haly doesn't think that's what day 1 is about. . I just don't think we can let visualante slide through. If they're not here to defend themself that's not my problem at this point, there's enough there right now for an argument to be made and shifting it to be a problem for another day phase is a mistake.
That argument can also be applied to Tiger though. There's like 6 people I would lynch today. I have to let some of them slide. I just haven't seen visualante stand out THAT much from Tiger, and Tiger happens to be sitting in a potentially useful slot. Having a 4 player private chat tonight won't help if Tiger remains silent for the next 36 hours.
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okies, squidy!
i'll believe you!
vote: visualante2
though i think tiger has 7 votes against him now :3
VOTE TALLY SO FAR :
Zubz (1)
Mazre
squidyj (1)
Arkos
EzekelRAGE (1)
cooljeanius
Mazre (1)
Enker
GreatLord Tiger (7)
Palmer_v1
Zubz
El Topo
Septimus Prime
Burbeting
TheGoddamn
Visualante2
Burbeting (1)
Razmos
Septimus Prime (1)
GreatLord Tiger
cooljeanius (3)
Haly
EzekelRAGE
Mike_Hawk689
Visualante2 (4)
QuantumBro
Seath
squidyj
YesNOnoNOYes
Seath (2)
roytheone
Hobohodo
Enker (1)
cabbeh
so you're going to vote with visualante, zubz, and septimus then.
What do you have against zubz?
I have a new idea for tonight. I'll go with you on this but you seem to be willing to tie your fate to this outcome to some degree, which is more than I'm willing to do for Tiger.
Vote: Visualante2
I don't have much against zubz except the company he keeps. I just don't have much for him either.
Oh geez. And now Tiger got another vote on him? I feel really bad casting that initial vote for him now.
But more importantly, I'm feeling very suspicious of the other 6. I gave my reasons before anyone else latched onto him; this whole affair seems bandwagon-y to me. Like, Tiger hasn't done anything suspicious outside of volunteering without entirely knowing what volunteering means. I barely picked him over Akros, Mazre, or Palmer. At this point, I'd be more suspicious of anyone else voting for Tiger, like Visualante. And I guess he's been pretty inactive, too, so I'm somewhat leaning towards him...
But then there's this. Your posts have been super aggro. Are you trying to say that Palmer, Visualante, Septimus, and I are all KGB? Why do you think that any of us, let alone this specific combination, are KGB? Let alone confident enough to accuse everyone simply because one player doesn't agree with you that Visulante's more suspicious than Tiger? Plus, a lot of your "contributions" have been pretty flimsy (Need I remind us of the whole "You're soaked" debacle)?
Plus, I've asked you what your suspicions of me were to no avail, and you told everyone to be suspicious of Haly, but it took some prodding by Palmer for you to provide anything. I know it's late, I know Tiger's dying anyway, and I know that there's a chance you'll get salty and try to get everyone to vote for me in retaliation (Which may or may not include KGB comrades). But at this point, I don't feel right voting for Tiger, whereas my gut's comfortable with Squidy.
UNVOTE: GreatLord Tiger
VOTE: SquidyJ
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its a tie now. 5 each way, GLT vs Visualante2
Your candidate is clearly not getting voted out, so it might be best if you help us break this potential tie.
... Wait a sec, did I just cause a tie? Ack! Abort! Abort! Sorry, Tiger! You just hit the opposite of a jackpot. I really don't feel good doing this...
UNVOTE: SquidyJ
VOTE: GreatLord Tiger
What company have I kept? You yourself said my posts have mostly been fluff. Outside of distrusting you and the volunteers, all I've done are make a few friendly comments towards the other players from the Star Wars game.
... Or is this another "Soaked" type of deal, here?
UNVOTE: SquidyJ
VOTE: GreatLord Tiger
What company have I kept? You yourself said my posts have mostly been fluff. Outside of distrusting you and the volunteers, all I've done are make a few friendly comments towards the other players from the Star Wars game.
... Or is this another "Soaked" type of deal, here?
So I figure that my vote is needed elsewhere right now. Also the fact that Seath has started posting on topic is enough for me to get of his back for now. Been going over GLT and Ante for the last half hour or so. GLT was an initial vote of mine due to the rule misunderstanding and being in the first group of volunteers but when I look at his posts compared with Ante its Ante that comes of worse. I'll just remind everyone that Ante has said twice he would like to ignore missions from tomorrow onwards, why would we want to deprive ourselves of a mechanic? It feels like either of them could be doing a 'keep my head down and let it blow over' tactic however.
Ultimately this post has given me my desicion. I read town on more of the players voting for visualante than I do for GLT.
Vote: Visualante2
Ultimately this post has given me my desicion. I read town on more of the players voting for visualante than I do for GLT.
Vote: Visualante2
I dunno, maybe you missed my rebuttal where I reminded you that the first 3 players night killed were Tucah, Coppa, and LMQ, and that you and Ezekel, the ones who won the MVP awards, survived to the end.
You never responded to this post, so I figure you gave up the notion. But, apparently, you think you were still in the right and that the the reason the night roles didn't matter much is because they took out the "strongest players". Even when Hobohodo, an actual HHA, literally said they went for the quiet ones to keep Village in the dark, and if you read the HHA chat, you would see this as well?
And how, may I ask, will mafia account for people devolunteering, revolunteering, for people rush volunteering. Will they just devolunteer and revolunteer as well? You're saying it would be as simple as putting all their guys into the list 3-4 days ahead and just waiting for their turn?
You seriously think there would be nothing suspicious about a few guys trying to remain a certain distance from each other on the list? And that we wouldn't spot it? My system was conceived with the notion that any attempt to game it would be plainly visible to all, because the volunteer, and voluteering, is a totally visible process.
Even, and I don't think this would happen, if they tried this and got away with it, all they get is access to the chats. It doesn't stop them from being lynched in the day, and more importantly, it means they left a paper trail for us to look at. If, on Day 7-8, we lynch a mafia and see they have have repeatedly been on the mission along with one or two other guys, what do you think this tells us?
I never thought we could come up with a perfect system, I was only interesting in creating the least exploitable one, one that would require minimum work, upkeep, or reliance on Ouro, one that everyone can quickly agree on so we can focus on what's important, lynching, one that would allow everyone to participate, should they choose to. I have always been consistent on that front.
This, make it sound like burbeting is saying there's some serious flaw in my system when all he really said was "it's not perfect" (what is?) and you conveniently left out the second part "and yeah, it's better than the first two", which is all I expected out of my system, a least-worst choice.squidyj said:
Regarding GLT, I still feel that my vote against him is valid, but at the same time, I do feel bit vary about the other people voting for him too. The last posts in general have made me bit unfocused since things are going at so fast pace. I'm trying to read quickly some of the last posts while there is still time for that.
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VERY VOLATILE VOTE TALLY:
Zubz (1)
Mazre
squidyj (2)
Zubz
Arkos
EzekelRAGE (1)
cooljeanius
Mazre (1)
Enker
GreatLord Tiger (5)
El Topo
Septimus Prime
Burbeting
TheGoddamn
Visualante2
Burbeting (1)
Razmos
Septimus Prime (1)
GreatLord Tiger
cooljeanius (3)
Haly
EzekelRAGE
Mike_Hawk689
Visualante2 (6)
Palmer_v1
QuantumBro
YesNOnoNOYes
Seath
squidyj
Hobohodo
Seath (1)
roytheone
Enker (1)
cabbeh
Zubz (1)
Mazre
squidyj (2)
Zubz
Arkos
EzekelRAGE (1)
cooljeanius
Mazre (1)
Enker
GreatLord Tiger (5)
El Topo
Septimus Prime
Burbeting
TheGoddamn
Visualante2
Burbeting (1)
Razmos
Septimus Prime (1)
GreatLord Tiger
cooljeanius (3)
Haly
EzekelRAGE
Mike_Hawk689
Visualante2 (6)
Palmer_v1
QuantumBro
YesNOnoNOYes
Seath
squidyj
Hobohodo
Seath (1)
roytheone
Enker (1)
cabbeh
I'm annoyed with myself because badminton is usually on Wednesdays, the one time it's thursday and I feel like I've had to quickly rush through the posts in the last 1.5 hours.
None of my suspicious people were near a vote, and what I saw of ante was pretty rubbish town behaviour.
I still wouldn't call this a happy choice though.
None of my suspicious people were near a vote, and what I saw of ante was pretty rubbish town behaviour.
I still wouldn't call this a happy choice though.
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Haly, i know! You guys move too fast~ WAW
9:5 (Visualante: GLT)
that's it for visualante2, i think o7
squidy got what he wanted great work, team effort!!! we saved a tiger!
\o/
9:5 (Visualante: GLT)
that's it for visualante2, i think o7
squidy got what he wanted
great work, team effort!!! we saved a tiger!\o/
Well, at least we know Cabbeh, Roy, Hobo, and I don't want to see a tie? I can't really be suspicious of any of the Visulante votes now, seeing how half of them were to prevent the tie I accidentally caused (Sorry, I didn't see Palmer and YesNo change their votes!).
Still, this has been a bit crazy. I'm sticking with Squidy though, now, barring another tie. I'm genuinely suspicious of him for his aggressive behavior and his vague posts that refer to meta factors that don't exist.
Sounds like Squidy
At this point it seems pretty clear that Visualante is going to be the winner of the votes. As I said earlier, his behaviour has been pretty suspecting, and I agree with squidjy's points some-what, so this conclusion is not completely bad in my eyes. although I do see GLT as a more potential scum at this point than Visual.
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(hopefully) FINAL DAY 1 VOTE TALLY:
Zubz (1)
Mazre
squidyj (2)
Zubz
Arkos
EzekelRAGE (1)
cooljeanius
Mazre (1)
Enker
GreatLord Tiger (5)
El Topo
Septimus Prime
Burbeting
TheGoddamn
Visualante2
Burbeting (1)
Razmos
Septimus Prime (1)
GreatLord Tiger
cooljeanius (2)
EzekelRAGE
Mike_Hawk689
Visualante2 (9)
Palmer_v1
QuantumBro
YesNOnoNOYes
Seath
cabbeh
squidyj
roytheone
Haly
Hobohodo
Zubz (1)
Mazre
squidyj (2)
Zubz
Arkos
EzekelRAGE (1)
cooljeanius
Mazre (1)
Enker
GreatLord Tiger (5)
El Topo
Septimus Prime
Burbeting
TheGoddamn
Visualante2
Burbeting (1)
Razmos
Septimus Prime (1)
GreatLord Tiger
cooljeanius (2)
EzekelRAGE
Mike_Hawk689
Visualante2 (9)
Palmer_v1
QuantumBro
YesNOnoNOYes
Seath
cabbeh
squidyj
roytheone
Haly
Hobohodo
People may be tempted to target Squidyj with various abilities tonight, but be cautious.
I would be interested to learn what cooljeanius is myself.
If I had to protect someone, it would be myself. Sorry, I'm a little selfish.
Trackers/Watcher, I dunno. We're probably close to 50/50 on people with abilities versus those without, though not will be active abilities.
Mafia, kill an inactive.
Switcher, who fucking knows. Have fun.
Armorers, me please!
My last post today. See some of you in the Mission chat in a bit.
I would be interested to learn what cooljeanius is myself.
If I had to protect someone, it would be myself. Sorry, I'm a little selfish.
Trackers/Watcher, I dunno. We're probably close to 50/50 on people with abilities versus those without, though not will be active abilities.
Mafia, kill an inactive.
Switcher, who fucking knows. Have fun.
Armorers, me please!
My last post today. See some of you in the Mission chat in a bit.
Wait, is he usually this aggressive? I was too focused on the Star Wars game to keep up with the AC one, sadly. I just saw the "Tom Nook" moment.
Either way, this behavior doesn't gel with me.
