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[remember_spinal]

I feel like every year, at multiple awards shows we hear about how we how much everyone hates CGI trailers or want to see gameplay. Even during TGA people complained about almost all the CGI trailers, especially the Diablo trailer yet there was roaring applause for Armored Core announcement. Even though we've already seen screenshots and know the game doesn't look like that, and the fact that its cross-gen, yet no one has complained about the latter either. Its like everything people have constant issues with and say how much they hate completely goes out the window with Fromsoft titles.

Knowing how Fromsoftware games tend to run/perform why do they always get the benefit of the doubt?

This is what the actual game looks like:

This is what the trailer looked like:

 

[Banjo64]

They make the best games, so no one cares.

 

[Represent.]

They get away with everything. People turn a blind eye to their shit graphics, performance and presentation.

 

[ReBurn]

No

 

[fart town usa]

I think it depends on the quality or recent output from said studio. From has been releasing bangers for over a decade and people have been drooling for Armored Core for years.

Same with Capcom and RE games, they're usually CG but people go crazy for them.

Hard to get hyped on a CG trailer for smaller studios. Something like The Lords of the Fallen. That CG trailer is frigging amazing but hard to get hyped cause who knows what the gameplay is gonna be like.

 

[Cert.in.Death]

 

[deriks]

Not for me. They have money now, so they can pay motion capture to do shit

 

[The Cockatrice]

yesno

 

[Danjin44]

Who the fuck cares!? They make amazing games and art direction out of this world. I couldn't care less about the visuals are high tech enough to make bunch graphic whore on internet happy.

 

[Spaceman292]

People keep making threads like this. "Why does From get away with x and y?'

It's because they make great games, obviously. It's no mystery.

 

[adamsapple]

Blizzard did a fantastic CG trailer for Diablo IV and I didn't see anyone raising any fuss about it ..

 

[TexMex]

Not for me, no. I'm as/more excited to see what's next from From as I am anyone else. But I'm very over the CG only "reveal." If you don't have any gameplay at all to show me, I'm just not interested.

Love the Nintendo method recently. Several have felt like here it is, here's lots of gameplay, and it's out in 90 days. Paper Mario was a good example.

 

[TexMex]

Blizzard did a fantastic CG trailer for Diablo IV and I didn't see anyone raising any fuss about it ..

People have definitely mentioned it, but it's quieter because they have shown a significant amount of Diablo IV gameplay already.

 

[ZehDon]

Until they make a game that under-delivers, From Soft can make a trailer out of paper mache and no one would care.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

OP is right. Those screens look awful. How are you gonna ship with horizontal white lines all over the image? Moar like Dark Trolls. More like Suckiro: Shadows Look Bad.

 

[Abriael_GN]

everyone hates CGI trailers

Incorrect premise invalidates thread.

 

[vpance]

Those are actual screens from the game? The fucc?

 

[palpabl_purpura]

They get away with murder. Dark souls prepare to die edition is the worst PC port I've ever played.

 

[Mattdaddy]

I'd much rather have gameplay trailers, but CGI trailers don't bother me for announcement trailers. If well done they're pretty fuckin sick and get me hyped lol.

They get away with murder. Dark souls prepare to die edition is the worst PC port I've ever played.

This is true though. I remember that random hero had to release his own rogue patch on release day to get resolution above like 720 or something. That was a lazy ass port.

 

[jigglet]

weird post given fromsoft's strong suit is not their graphics.

they have earned the right to get away with a lot, but CG trailers isn't one of them.

 

[Aion002]

It's a Armored Core thing since 3. Also, all Armored Core games have cgis between missions.












Can't wait for Armored Core 6 empty maps and occasional low resolution textures making some gamers outrage...

 

[Wildebeest]

A game trailer should leave you with a clear impression of what the game is about and what it is called. The problem is trailers which use CGI houses to blur the line between gameplay and cinematic or leave you with a bad understanding of what the game will be like. If someone with no knowledge of Dark Souls was played the Dark Souls intro movie they would probably have no idea what the game was about and not care about it. But if you played that a similar movie to a Dark Souls veteran and told them it was the intro to Dark Souls 4 they would be hyped.

 

[Fools idol]

honestly couldn't have less interest in a game with robot wars in it but yes.


It's highly unlikely at this point but I would love to see a reboot of the Kings Field series. The potential for it to be done right by modern Fromsoftware is immense.

 

[AmuroChan]

No, lots of games' initial reveals are CGI trailers. Gameplay trailers usually come later in the development cycle. GoW Ragnarok's initial trailer was literally just the logo with Kratos narrating in the background. Spider-Man 2's reveal was also CGI, as was Wolverine, Starfield, Halo Infinite, and many others.

 

[brian0057]

Nintendo still makes the best trailers.
Because unlike the rest of the industry, they show actual in-game footage that looks close to the final game, for better and for worse.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

No, but the context matters.

 

[Fbh]

Nah fuck CG trailers regardless of who is making them

 

[remember_spinal]

No, lots of games' initial reveals are CGI trailers. Gameplay trailers usually come later in the development cycle. GoW Ragnarok's initial trailer was literally just the logo with Kratos narrating in the background. Spider-Man 2's reveal was also CGI, as was Wolverine, Starfield, Halo Infinite, and many others.

Spider-man 2 was in-engine graphics

 

[Warablo]

They get away with everything. People turn a blind eye to their shit graphics, performance and presentation.

Lack of story too

 

[anthony2690]

They make the best games, so no one cares.

I care, I want to see the damn game, I can't get hyped for CGI

I am probably the only person though, that wants them to revisit lost kingdoms (I'd buy remasters tbh)

 

[AJUMP23]

Everyone that still does it gets away with it. We are buying the games.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Everyone that still does it gets away with it. We are buying the games.

No

 

[AJUMP23]

No

Yes

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Yes

No. I found the loop hole.

 

[Ocean Dweller]

They make the best games, so no one cares.

best games. lol

 

[T4keD0wN]

They can get away with more than most devs. They have their fanatical fanboy army to defend them, no need to spend money on PR or fixing their games.

 

[Griffon]

Yes.

Elden Ring was revealed in the same way and people were hyped beyond belief. The game ended up being good.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

They get away with everything. People turn a blind eye to their shit graphics, performance and presentation.

One more time…the hate for the best developer in the industry is like water from fountain of youth for me.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

I feel like every year, at multiple awards shows we hear about how we how much everyone hates CGI trailers or want to see gameplay. Even during TGA people complained about almost all the CGI trailers, especially the Diablo trailer yet there was roaring applause for Armored Core announcement. Even though we've already seen screenshots and know the game doesn't look like that, and the fact that its cross-gen, yet no one has complained about the latter either. Its like everything people have constant issues with and say how much they hate completely goes out the window with Fromsoft titles.

Knowing how Fromsoftware games tend to run/perform why do they always get the benefit of the doubt?

This is what the actual game looks like:

This is what the trailer looked like:

Their trailers are indicative of the art style and atmosphere we will get in the game. It usually gives a pretty decent example of what the final product will leave you feeling in the end. Sure it's not "gameplay" but their trailers are very useful for fans to prepare for the experience we will be getting from a tone and thematic standpoint.

 

[Kataploom]

They get away with everything. People turn a blind eye to their shit graphics, performance and presentation.

Shit graphics? If by good graphics you mean GOW:R and Horizon FW, I have news for you: I and many like From graphics way more than those games and that many others, they don't need to get away with "shit graphics" because they don't have that lol

 

[worldwithpyramids]

Yes, because their time between CG trailer and release date is amazing. No other studio is even remotely as consistent as them in this regard. So we understand that we'll get a CG trailer and be playing the game within a year. Compare that to BioWare or fucking Beyond Good and Evil. Who the fuck knows when those games are coming out. They aren't even video games years and years later.

 

[bender]

I think a lot of Johnny Come Lately FromSoft fans are going to jump off the bandwagon once they try Armored Core.

 

[Tg89]

When you're the best dev of the last decade+, yeah, you get some slack.

Consistently releasing incredible games and on reasonable dev cycles at that. Running circles around other devs.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Spoiler

Blizzard go pretty hard on CGI.

 

[Dr_Salt]

Armored core always had amazing cgi trailers and this one isn't an exception. Also no one is expecting the game to look like the trailer as it has 0 cgi gameplay bullshots.

Idk what is the point you wanna make with this thread. AC has had like 20 games, we pretty much know what the game is gonna be like and that is why people are hyped.

 

[remember_spinal]

So we understand that we'll get a CG trailer and be playing the game within a year.

This isn't true though, Elden Rings first CGI trailer dropped in 2019, and the game came out in 2022, so 3 years. Same with Sekiro, first teaser was in 2017, game came out in 2019, two years later. Seems like thats standard for most games that release cgi trailers.

Also AC has had like 20 games, we pretty much know what the game is gonna be like and that is why people are hyped.

No, im actually pretty sure a majority of current Fromsoftware fans have not played the Armored Core series and have no idea what they're getting themselves into. I doubt the total franchise sales of Armored Core are even equal to DS3

 

[Dr_Salt]

No, im actually pretty sure a majority of current Fromsoftware fans have not played the Armored Core series and have no idea what they're getting themselves into

You know we live in 2022 when you can not only google videos of hours of gameplay from all the games in the series but also play them for free don't you?

It's not the game's fault you don't know anything about it.

 

[remember_spinal]

You know we live in 2022 when you can not only google videos of hours of gameplay from all the games in the series but also play them for free don't you?

It's not the game's fault you don't know anything about it.

Thats what game trailers are for, so yeah…it is actually the game (makers) fault we don't know anything about it.

 

[Dr_Salt]

Thats what game trailers are for, so yeah…it is actually the game (makers) fault we don't know anything about it.

They made a long interview with IGN where they practically confirmed the game is as AC as you can get.
I know you are still probably mad that GOW didn't win GOTY at TGA but you don't have to blame a cgi trailer for your ignorance.

 

[Perrott]

"Getting away"? What are you even talking about?

CGI trailers aren't a bad practice per se, in fact, the only ways in which a CGI trailer could be perceived as negative would be when they're used to unveil a game that's like 5 years away (Cyberpunk 2077, Fable, State of Decay 3) or when after several years following an initial announcement, the studio keeps showing CGI footage instead of gameplay (Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown).

Under any other circumstance, the usage of CGI trailers is perfectly fine, ESPECIALLY in cases like this when they're meant to be tone-setting pieces for a game planned to release the following year. Other developers utilize them as a way to keep up with the marketing calendar (God of War: Ragnarok) without taking resources out of the game's development in order to produce yet another gameplay trailer, something that would quite possibly have a negative impact on the release schedule.

So no, not all CGIs are the same. Don't throw them all into the same bag.