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[Men_in_Boxes]

If "dead genre" is defined as... a genre in gaming with a history of little to no recent innovation, as well as no expectation for future innovation.

Examples might include the 2D fighter, the metroidvania, the simcade racer...

This is not to say that these genres are "bad" per se, only that their format has been wrung dry in terms of creative potential.

Do you sense this as well or am I too pessimistic?

(Is this GT5, GT6, GT Sport, or GT7? Nobody knows)

 

[Sooner]

Hero shooters are thankfully headed that direction.

 

[RAIDEN1]

Stealth games like Splinter Cell, Metal Gear are dead, (Delta was just a flash in the pan)

 

[Digital-Aftertaste]

The Guitar Hero games.

 

[Loomy]

Hero shooters are thankfully headed that direction.

How?

 

[Mr Moose]

(Is this GT5, GT6, GT Sport, or GT7? Nobody knows)

That's GT7.

We need new C&C games.

 

[Sooner]

How?

They consistently suck and keep coming out while no one ask for them.

 

[CLW]

Yes Sports titles have essentially become roster updates with pay to win casino card games

 

[Yoshichan]

RTS

 

[Holammer]

No genre truly dies, someone will eventually make it fresh again, maybe with a hybrid like Pacman+roguelike and boom, everyone does Maze games again.
Classical 80's and 90's style Shmups are few and far between now. It used to be a staple too, until the crazies took over and turned it into a laser focused niche genre with danmaku/bullet hell. A few more Earthion style games and maybe we get a newfound appreciation of the classic style.

 

[MooMilk2929]

Metroidvanias are still going. I think Bloodstained is getting a sequel. And silksong was just released.

 

[John Bilbo]

Do they die or do they go dormant

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Hero shooters are thankfully headed that direction.

I think it would depend how that genre is defined.

If it's two small teams enter a small map and shoot eachother for 3 minutes...you're probably right.

If it's just defined as players choosing characters based on "hero abilities and attributes"...much less so.

 

[Shifty1897]

Do I thing some genres are effectively dead? Yes.
Do I think it's because they're creatively at a dead end?
Absolutely not.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I wouldn't say there are dead genres but there are certainly highs and lows, as well as transformations. Boomer shooters were "dead" until around 2017 and now they're almost as common as metroidvanias, with a lot of variety and new ideas brought to the table.

Simcade isnt dead either, not with tokyo xtreme racer releasing next week.

 

[diffusionx]

I fully believe all of this stuff is cyclical, with two caveats. One is where other forces limit the innovation or development that can be done - see sports games where you have leagues that basically do not allow fun (no more NFL Blitz) and are fine with the games being scummy P2W casino bullshit, and simulation like racing games that naturally trend towards a limit. A sim-like racing game, you can only do so much with a Nissan driving in Laguna Seca, we probably reached the point of diminishing returns with this on PS2.

Everything else, there is room, we are starting to see RTS games come back and they were dead for a decade.

 

[cormack12]

Extraction Shooters

 

[Krathoon]

Well, your old Ultima 4 style RPG is kind of dead. You have a few new retro games that used that style.

 

[analog_future]

"Classic" third person action adventure games ala Tomb Raider (1996), MDK/MDK 2, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine, classic Prince of Persia games, Soul Reaver, etc.. are dead IMO


There's still third person action adventure games of course, but they are completely different than these classics to the point that they are essentially a whole different genre of game.

 

[Krathoon]

We do need a MDK 3. Bring it back, Bioware.

 

[Wildebeest]

If you are overfamiliar with a game then you are zoomed in on it and a 1% change can seem huge but if you are not familiar you are zoomed out and a 100% change can seem small.

 

[Cakeboxer]

I don't believe there are dead genres, at most just ones that have become niche, like point-and-click adventures or real-time strategy.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Other than indies, AAA gaming is creatively bankrupt. It's a dying industry. Take out the big boy games 9crap games) like Fortnite, Minecraft, Roblox and the mobile stuff.....the industry isn't doing nearly as well as they say

 

[Kacho]

Nothing is truly dead. Just less viable so there are far fewer games in the genre.

 

[p_xavier]

Music based games like Dance Dance Revolution, Singstar and Rock Band.

 

[kevboard]

"Classic" third person action adventure games ala Tomb Raider (1996), MDK/MDK 2, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine, classic Prince of Persia games, Soul Reaver, etc.. are dead IMO

 

[Kacho]

Music based games like Dance Dance Revolution, Singstar and Rock Band.

I would consider that the rhythm genre and games like Rocksmith, Patapon, Ratatan and the upcoming Rhythm Heaven are recent examples.

 

[nightfly]

Yes, a good example being F. R. E. E. Only got it with Shenmue.

 

[Gonzito]

Stealth is unfortunately dying

 

[clarky]

Not much going fighting games wise as far as I'm aware.

Yes Sports titles have essentially become roster updates with pay to win casino card games

Sport titles are based on real sports though, you can't really innovate on a rigid set of rules. I suppose the input method could be iterated upon.

 

[rodrigolfp]

RTS

 

[clarky]

Looks exactly like past entries but a bit flashier.

Looks pretty sweet though.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Stealth is unfortunately dying

I wouldn't say its dying, just being incorporated other genres. We're seeing a revival of immersive sims (which also happen to be a case of this) for example and those often incorporate stealth mechanics.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Looks exactly like past entries but a bit flashier.

Looks pretty sweet though.

So not dead.

 

[clarky]

So not dead.

Thats not the point of the OP. Did you read it?

 

[Kacho]

Thats not the point of the OP. Did you read it?

Everything is dead going by the 'rules' in the OP

 

[clarky]

Everything is dead going by the 'rules' in the OP

Don't shoot the messenger take it up with box man.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Thats not the point of the OP. Did you read it?

No and after reading it now, by that metric everything is dead. Maybe VR stuff could be "alive".

 

[clarky]

No and after reading it now, by that metric everything is dead. Maybe VR stuff could be "alive".

I dunno Donkey Kong was pretty sweet in the collectathon/3d platformer space.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I dunno Donkey Kong was pretty sweet in the collectathon/3d platformer space.

Nothing really "new".

 

[Ainem Enamas]

Cars with guns in the battle arena

 

[clarky]

Nothing really "new".

I've not played anything quite like it in one package. I think I pushes the genre in a direction not done before, so would fit the OP's rules just about.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Music based games like Dance Dance Revolution, Singstar and Rock Band.

The crash of music games that rely on various instruments will always surprise me. We've went from multiple series (including some niche ones like DJ Hero) to pretty much a single semi-professional series that's not intended for casuals.

 

[R6Rider]

Dead? Never.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Sim racing is far from reaching final stage ;d

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Everything is dead going by the 'rules' in the OP

Not sure how you reached that conclusion.

 

[Kacho]

Nothing really "new".

Yep, no real innovation. It's doing things we've seen before. 3D platformers is a dead genre, just like sim racers.

 

[clarky]

Yep, no real innovation. It's doing things we've seen before. 3D platformers is a dead genre, just like sim racers.

Show me another 3d platformer where you can remove 90% of the "level"

 

[Sethbacca]

There are meaningful additions to be made, but they won't be because corporations are going to stick to safe formulaic content.

 

[SnapShot]

Arena Shooters maybe? anyone still play Unreal Tournament 4?