BlackTron
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All you people who say you are "out" what are you gonna do, quit gaming?
Meh. Most of our backlogs are pretty honking big. You could wait for a long time for a proposition worth spending money on.
All you people who say you are "out" what are you gonna do, quit gaming?
Is it any different from CDKeys or Instant-Gaming? I've never bought anything from them.true lol but Fanatical is a legit "official" shop
It's more like GMG, like legit 100% official. I also love CDKeys but technically its not listed as "official" on gg.deals.Is it any different from CDKeys or Instant-Gaming? I've never bought anything from them.
In any case, I don't think we should cope with the prize increase by looking at key resellers, because those are becoming more expensive too. I could usually find keys for games day 1 at about 40€. Meanwhile the cheapest I've seen DOOM: DA is 62€.![]()
It certainly is. Most games aren't just a one single purchase. Extra editions, battle passes, shops with skins$70 was already too much and BS. $80 is just taking the piss.
I provided the numbers pro-rata, games are cheaper now than in 2005. I don't know what else to point to. Is the timing opportunistic? Probably, but that's a PR decision and the hike was always going to happen. I am not thrilled or cheering it on, just pointing out the realities and that the games are cheaper now than they were when priced at $50.
I said in another thread that I'd be happy if next gen we had more "efficient" smaller consoles with less pronounced gains. Give me a slightly better GPU / CPU (over PS5 Pro) and a boat load of RAM at a lower entry level price point.
Yes, I agree it was likely (although I have no idea) opportunistic. I was highlighting, including to those comments (not yours) that were making this hike out to be unreasonable and just "corporate greed" of some kind. Games are cheaper now than they were 20 years ago.You pointed out inflation in general. That doesn't translate to every product 1:1. And we see games on PC that sell cheaper than on consoles and even cheaper on key reselling sites. So these publishers are willing to sell for less, but they choose to take advantage of closed ecosystems. But if you agree this price hike was opportunistic then I'm not sure why you came after me in the first place. That was my entire point.
Yes, I agree it was likely (although I have no idea) opportunistic. I was highlighting, including to those comments (not yours) that were making this hike out to be unreasonable and just "corporate greed" of some kind. Games are cheaper now than they were 20 years ago.
If people want deflationary pressure on games, they need to stop purchasing them. Quality will go down, although you can argue that for many it has, and prices will go down. I imagine that's why Microsoft and Nintendo left the door open for price scaling: Elder Scrolls 6 at $80 and say, Rocket League at $50 makes sense to me.
Ultimately, I personally stopped paying full price for games over a decade ago! GamePass, PS+ and sales have dominated my consumption of video games. Heck, I don't even buy sports games anymore because it's the same game with a slightly changed menu and updated rosters at $80, but most people still do!
Everyday there's a better argument to be made that PC is the best way to go for a video game enthusiast, definitely.That's fair. I'm more than likely going to be finding ways around $80 games myself. Not sure I'll own any consoles by the end of next year. I very well may just focus on PC which gets the vast majority of games anyway and has more competition on price.
This is my exact route as well, I think. Just going to focus completely on the PC for the "next gen."That's fair. I'm more than likely going to be finding ways around $80 games myself. Not sure I'll own any consoles by the end of next year. I very well may just focus on PC which gets the vast majority of games anyway and has more competition on price.
Fuck Microsoft, nothing but L's for those fucking losers.
And FUCK NINTENDO, THOSE STUPID FUCKS for setting the bar with their early PS4 looking dogshit games going for 80 bucks, greedy cunts.
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All you people who say you are "out" what are you gonna do, quit gaming?
Do you imagine the PC space is cheaper and safer for you?
Are you gonna steal your games?
Microsoft is just getting warmed up in the space. They want to control it. The hardware prices are even more out of control on PC so you better hope your little theft sanctuary stays protected.
Wait a few weeks.
You pointed out inflation in general. That doesn't translate to every product 1:1. And we see games on PC that sell cheaper than on consoles and even cheaper on key reselling sites. So these publishers are willing to sell for less, but they choose to take advantage of closed ecosystems. But if you agree this price hike was opportunistic then I'm not sure why you came after me in the first place. That was my entire point.
I still have a huge backlog to get through, and I mostly play older games anyway. I've gotten into the habit of waiting for deals and deep discounts for new releases.Microsoft seem to want to kill off their own hardware.
80 dollars for premium games only is okay with me, ie GTA, Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda, Resident Evil, Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Divinity Original Sin 3 but normal games like almost everything else needs to be cheaper.
I will not pay the same thing for Assassin's Creed fuckin Shadows that I pay for GTA. Not gonna do it. That's just dumb.
I would have included Halo and Gears of War 10 years ago in the above, but Microsoft has ruined those and they are 2nd hand franchises now.
All you people who say you are "out" what are you gonna do, quit gaming? Do you imagine the PC space is cheaper and safer for you? Are you gonna steal your games? Microsoft is just getting warmed up in the space. They want to control it. The hardware prices are even more out of control on PC so you better hope your little theft sanctuary stays protected.
I will be sticking with PS5 if they continue physical. If not, then I'll probably move back to PC gaming. That was my Nintendo as a kid lolThis is my exact route as well, I think. Just going to focus completely on the PC for the "next gen."
Unless there's something that jumps out and melts my face with the PS6, but if this gen is any indication and not a mulligan one, I won't bother.
Vote with your wallets. Ubislop, for example, is on the verge of bankruptcy behind closed doors. The fact they practically sold their flagships IPs that are Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, and Rainbow Six Siege to Tencent in all but name proves that gamers are getting sick and tired of bullshit that companies like Ubislop are doing and... what else can a supposed "AAA" developer studio do but either close up shop or sell themselves off.Record profits. Record layoffs.
Months later: "we're raising to $80."
This shits all so tiring man.
And yet what people are getting paid has remained stagnant for years, which means people are seeing less money in their pockets every fucking year because everything keeps going up. I'm so fucking close to just crashing out after everything from the past 5-6 years man.
Vote with your wallets. Ubislop, for example, is on the verge of bankruptcy behind closed doors. The fact they practically sold their flagships IPs that are Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, and Rainbow Six Siege to Tencent in all but name proves that gamers are getting sick and tired of bullshit that companies like Ubislop are doing and... what else can a supposed "AAA" developer studio do but either close up shop or sell themselves off.
While that's true, you can buy Astobot Digital bundle for $400 right this moment. Most likely it will go up, but not just yet. We will see what happens in couple of weeks.Sony has been raising the prices for their HW and accesories for years now, also selling the "Pro" for $800.
That's rich coming from youNot sure why you singled out Microsoft here, they're not the only ones, let alone the first ones, to announce $80 games.
Don't forget, if Jimbo had his way PS5 games would have been priced higher than $70. Publisher influence likely reigned him in.
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Sony considered pricing PS5 games ‘even higher than $70’, report claims | VGC
Multiple next-gen launch titles carry the increased price tag…www.videogameschronicle.com
I also don't forget MS ushering $60 in the 360 era, where prior it was $50 and below.
Why do you do this?
Nah. I don't think any game already with a defined window will have the $70 tag.
Interesting that you brought it up, reportedly Sony wanted the prices higher than $70. Likely publisher intervention stopped it.
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Video Game Prices Are Going Up for the First Time in 15 Years
In spite of an economic and jobs crisis, publishers will press ahead with a price hike they see as long overdue.www.bloomberg.com
Not really true.
Looking at my own country in the UK.
In some sectors and regions, yes—especially in tech, finance, and parts of healthcare, wages have outpaced inflation. But for the median worker, particularly in the UK and much of Europe, real wage growth has been sluggish and often barely keeping pace with inflation since COVID, or in some cases even falling behind.
Low and middle-income workers have been hit hardest by cost of living increases. In the UK and the rest of Europe, we're living in a cost of living crisis. I earn far more money now than I did pre-Covid, but I feel pooer. Everything has shot up at a record pace. Energy bills, water bills, cost of food etc has been rising at a record pace since Covid and most people are struggling to get by.
I mentioned this in another thread, but it has gotten so bad in the UK that we have radio stations asking people to donate money so families can feed their children. In the UK. One of the richest nations in the world, and we have children starving. This isn't normal in a first world nation.
When the cost of living has skyrocketed since COVID, spending £80 on a single video game feels like a luxury most people simply can't justify.
it was Take 2 that ushered in $70 and now it's MS doing $80 yet you're on the defensive as usual.
FTFYTime to make companies hate gamers with this one simple trick. Wait 6 months to 2 years for that deep deep sale of their $80 game being bought for a bargain price of $50 or so.
This may be the first time a publisher has done this halfway through and NOT starting a new gen.![]()
Mario Kart World Isn't the Only Nintendo Switch 2 Game That Costs $80, Some Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Games Do as Well - IGN
Amid the furore caused by Nintendo’s decision to charge $79.99 for Switch 2 exclusive Mario Kart World, it has emerged that some of the Switch 2 Edition games announced during the Nintendo Direct also cost $79.99.www.ign.com
My guy spent so much time finding those old posts to just fumble at the end. .
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MS didn't usher in $80. When Nintendo announced $80, most of us said at the same time that this will rub off on other publishers. And lo and behold, it already has.
This may be the first time a publisher has done this halfway through and NOT starting a new gen.
This is disingenuous. Take 2 set the standard for $70 games before the consoles launched ushering it into the a new gen. Which every major publisher adopted. Capcom and those outliers were just keeping old pricing for a while.Capcom, Ubi etc also started this gen with $60 games before pivoting to $70 for their latest projects. Likely $80 for their 2026 games.
But then again, this is also the only console gen where hardware prices have gone *up* over time, so this is a fucked gen all around.
This is disingenuous. Take 2 set the standard for $70 games before the consoles launched ushering it into the a new gen. Which every major publisher adopted. Capcom and those outliers were just keeping old pricing for a while.
This is the first time ever that a publisher let alone a platform holder, raised from the established launch MSRP halfway through a gen.
Nintendo is doing it launching into a new gen.
Matching everyone else in the same gen.Gonna disagree with you.
Nintendo started the Switch generation with established MSRP of $60 but started selling games like Tears of the Kingdom for $70.
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Update: The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Costs $70
Nintendo has responded for our request for comment.www.gameinformer.com
* and now they're selling an HD re-release of the same game for $80. Which somehow feels even worse.
Matching everyone else in the same gen.
MSFT is raising to next gen chronology (Switch 2) pricing while being a gen behind.
Graphically, not chronologically.I mean .. we've called Switch a gen behind PS5/Series for years now.
We're just debating semantics at this point.
Nintendo has nothing to do with Xbox and PlayStation. If that were what you was worried about Nintendo already had $70 games generations ago too. Question is why are you now unable to pin this rise on PS and Xbox on MS and quick to defend them yet you were eager to pin $70 on Sony when it was Take 2 that was the first publisher to $70 on both PS and Xbox.![]()
Mario Kart World Isn't the Only Nintendo Switch 2 Game That Costs $80, Some Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Games Do as Well - IGN
Amid the furore caused by Nintendo’s decision to charge $79.99 for Switch 2 exclusive Mario Kart World, it has emerged that some of the Switch 2 Edition games announced during the Nintendo Direct also cost $79.99.www.ign.com
My guy spent so much time finding those old posts to just fumble at the end. .
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MS didn't usher in $80. When Nintendo announced $80, most of us said at the same time that this will rub off on other publishers. And lo and behold, it already has.
He'll be docked rations, if so.Nintendo has nothing to do with Xbox and PlayStation. If that were what you was worried about Nintendo already had $70 games generations ago too. Question is why are you now unable to pin this rise on PS and Xbox on MS and quick to defend them yet you were eager to pin $70 on Sony when it was Take 2 that was the first publisher to $70 on both PS and Xbox.
Nintendo has nothing to do with Xbox and PlayStation. If that were what you was worried about Nintendo already had $70 games generations ago too. Question is why are you now unable to pin this rise on PS and Xbox on MS and quick to defend them yet you were eager to pin $70 on Sony when it was Take 2 that was the first publisher to $70 on both PS and Xbox.
That was all based on the one and only Takashi Mochizuki posting his usual bullshit not VGC but again this doesn't change the point that the third party publisher known as MS/xbox is raising the prices to $80 and is "the first to do so" in the same way but of course you are jumping to their defence. Take 2 was the first to jump to $70 and on xbox too which had nothing to do with Sony/PS.![]()
You claimed MS is ushering in $80, which is factually wrong. Not sure why caveats like 'nintendo has nothing to do with Ms and Sony' matter? The absolute need to try and pin this as a negative for MS is perplexing.
I'm not the one who said Sony would have priced games higher than $70 if they could, articles and reports like this did. Contact VGC and ask them to appease your bruised ego, I guess
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Sony considered pricing PS5 games ‘even higher than $70’, report claims | VGC
Multiple next-gen launch titles carry the increased price tag…www.videogameschronicle.com
That was all based on the one and only Takashi Mochizuki posting his usual bullshit not VGC but again this doesn't change the point that the third party publisher known as MS/xbox is raising the prices to $80 and is "the first to do so" in the same way but of course you are jumping to their defence. Take 2 was the first to jump to $70 too and on xbox too which had nothing to do with Sony/PS.