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Arkham Asylum Mafia |OT| It's time to kill the Bat
- Thread starter franconp
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What are you talking about? You previously alluded to Kalor having a 'big' role and I then gave two reason for why you'd say that. Either you made a slip and know more than you should, or you're trying to say Kalor should be participating now since he's a conversation topic. The latter is much less likely based on your wording, especially since you did the equivalent of a drive by post, saying it offhand.
So yes, saying you were talking about Kalor's presence today when making that post is stretching things quite a bit.
D, mate, you're not the best at deflecting questions which is completely okay, but we're like the only people on this page so it's jarring
For my own curiosity, why did you vote for me?
Grudge
A grudge?
Even in the bolded you had there you see that I said you wagoned the vote/logic. It was the convenience of getting onto that vote that I felt was opportunistic. You're real defensive over me pointing out something my gut didn't like.
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I didn't know what to quote from this MickD part of things. This doesn't smell of an act but it does smell of an annoyance, knock it off and actually play. Also no, there hasn't been a definitive role claim, we've had one soft and that's about it unless someone has been playing the breadcrumb game.
Lifeline isn't going to answer me about his confidence levels I guess.
Anyway he's probably mafia. Doubling down on the weird association reads was too much and gave him away.
this picture that Lifeline posted with his association theory
is a pretty clear indicator that he knows his association theory is bad logic and that, as town, he is almost always wrong. Would have been a pretty great newbie gambit but I think he took it too far and gave himself away.
Terrabyte unvoting Lifeline is suspicious, terrabyte is back on the list.
I think these are the good lynches for today that everyone should be voting:
Kalor
Lifeline
Terrabyte20xx
Does anyone need to be added/removed from this list?
I don't see it. Kalor and Terra are fine votes, I see scum possibilities there but I don't think someone boosted by a team doubles down like Lifeline did. Obviously I'm still not digging Worm and Time never really jumped out to me as anything interesting or helpful yet. Same for Verelios who I feel was gone for a large swath of the middle of the day phase.
I don't even know where to start with Mick now, he's hit the 10 posts at this point I'm sure so we will have to do something with it.
Shots fired. Lets Go!
StarSketch
Banned
Are you sure w/r/t Lifetime? Phase 1 of the association reads was very successful successful for him he netted some of the strongest town reads in the game.
You pointed out mistakes in his narrative first and he still hasn't changed it, I figured you would be on the same page.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Kalor (4)
batsnacks 140
*Splinter 235
SexyFish 289
MickD 533
Terrabyte20xx (3)
Kalor 434
Natiko 450
Fat4all 451
Mazre (1)
acohrs 422
Lifeline (1)
Terrabyte20xx 214 449
Timeaisis 511
SexyFish (1)
Timeaisis 207 511
Sorian 287 491
Dr. Worm 318
Dr. Worm (1)
Sorian 491
Lifeline 496 506
Natiko (1)
Faddy 499
Sorian (0):Faddy 98 499
acohrs (0):Lifeline 173 216, Lifeline 374 496, Terrabyte20xx 449 501
StarSketch (0):Natiko 232 450
Timeaisis (0):Sorian 78 287, SexyFish 270 289
No active vote for Day 1: AbsolutBro, Fireblend, Lifeline (has previously voted), Mazre, Nudull, Royal_Flush, StarSketch, Terrabyte20xx (has previously voted), That Dude John, TheWorthyEdge, Verelios, Zippedpinhead
Day 1 Postcount: *Splinter 11, AbsolutBro 9, acohrs 28, batsnacks 30, Dr. Worm 33, Faddy 35, Fat4all 55, Fireblend 17, Kalor 13, Lifeline 28, Mazre 6, MickD 26, Natiko 36, Nudull 5, Royal_Flush 4, SexyFish 24, Sorian 48, StarSketch 8, Terrabyte20xx 23, That Dude John 3, Timeaisis 17, Verelios 16, Zippedpinhead 6
Day 1 ends:
13 votes for majority
Kalor (4)
batsnacks 140
*Splinter 235
SexyFish 289
MickD 533
Terrabyte20xx (3)
Kalor 434
Natiko 450
Fat4all 451
Mazre (1)
acohrs 422
Lifeline (1)
Timeaisis 511
SexyFish (1)
Dr. Worm 318
Dr. Worm (1)
Sorian 491
Natiko (1)
Faddy 499
Sorian (0):
acohrs (0):
StarSketch (0):
Timeaisis (0):
No active vote for Day 1: AbsolutBro, Fireblend, Lifeline (has previously voted), Mazre, Nudull, Royal_Flush, StarSketch, Terrabyte20xx (has previously voted), That Dude John, TheWorthyEdge, Verelios, Zippedpinhead
Day 1 Postcount: *Splinter 11, AbsolutBro 9, acohrs 28, batsnacks 30, Dr. Worm 33, Faddy 35, Fat4all 55, Fireblend 17, Kalor 13, Lifeline 28, Mazre 6, MickD 26, Natiko 36, Nudull 5, Royal_Flush 4, SexyFish 24, Sorian 48, StarSketch 8, Terrabyte20xx 23, That Dude John 3, Timeaisis 17, Verelios 16, Zippedpinhead 6
Day 1 ends:
13 votes for majority
What does w/r/t mean? That said sure, I guess it was successful. I am obviously town reading him for it but the main thing was him going back to the well a second time. I don't think a scum team coaches him to do that. The odds of him being scum are lower than some others imo.
with regard to
I also initially town read him for it.
I don't think he was coached into this I think he saw that something was working and overdid it.
It's this picture that's getting me
this isn't an "I'm confident I solved the game" picture this is a "town loves a conspiracy theorist I'll show them a conspiracy theorist" picture
with regard to
I also initially town read him for it.
I don't think he was coached into this I think he saw that something was working and overdid it.
It's this picture that's getting me
this isn't an "I'm confident I solved the game" picture this is a "town loves a conspiracy theorist I'll show them a conspiracy theorist" picture
I'm all in favor of a good gut read and I'm not even saying it's impossible for you to be wrong. My opinion isn't changed on the picture though, the flow of logic follows perfectly of someone who jumped the gun, backed down when they were made to feel ridiculous, still clung to it and came back with a self-deprecating attitude while still wanting that point to be up for debate. The picture is that self deprecation, that's what I'm seeing.
the flow of logic follows perfectly of someone who
maybe he can corroborate
- jumped the gun,
- backed down when they were made to feel ridiculous,
- still clung to it and
- came back with a self-deprecating attitude
- while still wanting that point to be up for debate.
- The picture is that self deprecation
maybe he can corroborate
Sorry for being away a bit, caught up now.
Not seeing Lifeline as scum. The main criticism of him seems to be that he's too confident in his reads? Not exactly unusual to act more confident than you are, even if he has taken that to an extreme.
My only worry with Lifeline is he seems more experienced than he claims, and I'm wondering if town would bother to hide that kind of info.
I don't like Fat4all at the moment, he had a couple of posts criticizing Lifeline's play ("we should just vote him for being sloppy" or something like that). Obviously I disagree with his assessment, but his post feels like he's trying to discourage Lifeline more than anything. I think Lifeline was on the Acohrs train at the time, so I'm fine with voting Acohrs too, but for now I'll follow my gut and
VOTE: Fat4all
I also think sexyfish is quite likely to be scum. The way he reacted to the first vote against him made it look like he had been told not to overreact. There has been some other stuff too but I forget.
Terrabyte... I'm not sure. I was ok with everything up until the unvote to be honest.
Dr Worm gets a lot of mentions but hasn't really registered with me yet, not sure why, maybe just need to look out for his posts for a bit.
I think that's everyone I wanted to mention.
Not seeing Lifeline as scum. The main criticism of him seems to be that he's too confident in his reads? Not exactly unusual to act more confident than you are, even if he has taken that to an extreme.
My only worry with Lifeline is he seems more experienced than he claims, and I'm wondering if town would bother to hide that kind of info.
I don't like Fat4all at the moment, he had a couple of posts criticizing Lifeline's play ("we should just vote him for being sloppy" or something like that). Obviously I disagree with his assessment, but his post feels like he's trying to discourage Lifeline more than anything. I think Lifeline was on the Acohrs train at the time, so I'm fine with voting Acohrs too, but for now I'll follow my gut and
VOTE: Fat4all
I also think sexyfish is quite likely to be scum. The way he reacted to the first vote against him made it look like he had been told not to overreact. There has been some other stuff too but I forget.
Terrabyte... I'm not sure. I was ok with everything up until the unvote to be honest.
Dr Worm gets a lot of mentions but hasn't really registered with me yet, not sure why, maybe just need to look out for his posts for a bit.
I think that's everyone I wanted to mention.
why in your mind is it awkward play and not just scummy play? Are you referring to Lifelines youthful exuberance or terrabytes all over the shop play?
Lifeline isn't going to answer me about his confidence levels I guess.
Anyway he's probably mafia. Doubling down on the weird association reads was too much and gave him away.
this picture that Lifeline posted with his association theory
is a pretty clear indicator that he knows his association theory is bad logic and that, as town, he is almost always wrong. Would have been a pretty great newbie gambit but I think he took it too far and gave himself away.
Terrabyte unvoting Lifeline is suspicious, terrabyte is back on the list.
I think these are the good lynches for today that everyone should be voting:
Kalor
Lifeline
Terrabyte20xx
Does anyone need to be added/removed from this list?
People jumping on the Kalor bandwagon after he defended me and now people jumping on the Terra bandwagon after he voted the same as me. I know I'm town, so Kalor and Terra are most likely town too. Your list of three people that I'm confident are town is what's really suspicious.
Plus the question in the end asking others to remove and add stuff on your list is suspicious too. It's like you're covering yourself. If you get heat for one of your picks, you can easily remove them from the list without getting called out for backpedaling.
As for the image, I think fat4all summed it up:
Also my association list is not weird. Something's fishy with the way a group of people are behaving similarIy in similar situations. Dr. Worm I'm a bit unsure of bra use my theory against him was due to him being inactive and not having any strong opionions. Which he has now addressed.
Royal_Flush
Member
Great, so lifeline is basically meming (memeing?) at this point... *sigh*
I'd post that trademarked Sofia "Seriously?" anime picture right now, but I'm too lazy to search it up. In what universe is euphorically diving into a rabbit hole so deep it has to reach the earth's molten core on D1(!) an indicator of experience with Forum Mafia? We're dealing with an overeager person here whose experience comes from Live Mafia, if at all. Or, what would be actually worse, with an inexperenced player who was told by teammates (likely Scum) to keep pushing hard in order to look like overeager Town. Not once in this lunatic ramble did I get the feeling of "hidden experience"...
Royal_Flush
Member
Voting Terra is a mistake. His plays seem like something Town-Terra would make.
Do you (or anybody else) actually think Terra would have watched an acohrs lynch happen? Wasn't that whole chapter one obvious "OK, there, I 'put pressure on arcohrs', now watch what hapens. Oh nothing, right, who would have thought" setup?
Royal_Flush
Member
Yes, I'm splitting my posts on purpose by theme because fuck minimum post count.
Does anyone else get really bad vibes from batsnacks? I know he's quite an experienced player with rather strong opinions, yet most of his posts this game seem probing and testing the waters instead of going after somebody. Also that Batman role discussion. What?
Does anyone else get really bad vibes from batsnacks? I know he's quite an experienced player with rather strong opinions, yet most of his posts this game seem probing and testing the waters instead of going after somebody. Also that Batman role discussion. What?
Zippedpinhead
Member
Reading through these posts, I feel like I'm trying to grab wet spaghetti by hand. Soggy, slippery, and if we try and grab it too quickly we are all likely to get burned.
Here is my vote, it's not perfect but it's mine.
vote: lifeline
I don't understand his gameplay. I've been trying to make sense of it for a day and still don't see it. I feel like he might be a scum player trying to hard.
Here is my vote, it's not perfect but it's mine.
vote: lifeline
I don't understand his gameplay. I've been trying to make sense of it for a day and still don't see it. I feel like he might be a scum player trying to hard.
You can't know that for sure in any capacity unless you're on a team or your role mentions them specifically, so vouching for their 'most likely' innocence because they're conversation topics is nonsense. Scum usually have no qualms shitting on one another in reads lists anyway.
Royal_Flush
Member
What is this metaphor even supposed to mean? And what are "these" posts? And why are you apologizing in advance for your vote? Do you know something we dont?
Interesting this comes right after I put the pressure on Acorns again. Not to mention there's no confidence in your post, leaving room to say oops when I end up being a lynched town.
This sentence is desperate to me. I never said you were scum together.
I'm not concerned over suspicion towards me, what concerns me is your faulty logic and trying to force your reads. If you think I manufactured jumping on the Terra vote then essentially you must believe the following things:
1. I am scum or lazy town, which given my play thus far and history you know the second isn't particularly likely.
2. Kalor is also scum, either because he's on the vote as well or because his wagon is actually in the lead so if I'm scum avoiding this would be an indirect attempt to save him.
Walk me through what Terra wanted to happen then. Literally nothing can come from humoring lifeline without actually having one of his suspects lynched. It's not as if by agreeing with him lifeline was going to suddenly shift course for no reason. The best I can think is that it was bait for others trying to see if it would start a conveniently easy train. Besides that I'm not seeing what Terra possibly had to gain unless he truly was fine with an acorn lynch.
See my response to Sorian. The argument you two are making just doesn't add up with the responses you two have given.
Someone else already said the same but yeah, people getting attacked does not make them town. Scum busses all the time and this is now bordering on silly. You sound like you're hamming it up at this point.
I don't see him testing the waters at all. I do definitely see him trying to control narrative for better or worse though.
Lifeline to me is least likely to be scummy. Reminds me a bit of Launchpad back in the day (though he tended to suggest every conspiracy theory rather than dive into just one.)
Both, though I'd say frequent changes of opinion is usually a worse look than sticking to one bad one.
Scum want to blend, drawing attention to yourself with bad play isn't blending. It's not impossible for someone to try to be so outrageous that you discount the possibility of them being scum, but it's also somewhat unlikely. In those cases it's generally prudent to play a wait and see if something else (say voting patterns or other activity) further points towards scum or not.
I feel like I could do a pretty good lifeline impression at this point by arguing for a Terra, Sorian, Faddy, fat4all scum team. "You see here that fat votes for Terra as well one post after I did. Convenient then that Sorian and Faddy only targeted me over the Terra votes. This is likely due to wanting to weaken the Terra votes while not targeting their teammate fat who had made the exact same vote I did."
Considering I've already word for word said I think your play is indicative of scum or lazy town then yeah, obviously I think that. I don't know why lazy town isn't particularly likely, the only time your play has impressed me was when you were scum and I'm pretty sure the only time I've played with you as town was when you died N1 in gafia unless there was an earlier game I'm blanking on. The second point also makes no sense. There is nothing stopping you from voting another town member or hell, even a scummate when a townie is in the lead of the vote especially when we were still more than 24 hours from the deadline. It's D1 with opinion always in flux. Your vote would mean nothing about the current vote leader.
All that and what I get most out of it is you felt the need to tell me you would never be a lazy townie, almost begging me to think you're scum.
Zippedpinhead
Member
The posts are lifeline's posts, they don't make a lot of sense, could be scum but it could be town. I'm apologizing because my reasoning isn't That sound. But it's day 1 most of us don't have a lot to go on today.
So let's string up lifeline, I'm sure the joker will be pleased with us if we find the bat day 1.
We've also played together in Persona. I guess I don't get the meaning of lazy town then since to me lazy town is someone that isn't interested in solving and puts forth little effort. If I'm lazy town then so is a huge majority of players. I'm used to seeing better arguments from you, but then again I guess now I know how all the town players you went after in DR3 felt lol
Weren't you the neutral in persona? I died N1 there so another bad example for anything.
Also har har, again, the worry is weird when I'm not even throwing a vote in your direction. It's like you're trying to convince me to get Faddy heat off of you which is a weirdness all it's own.
You misinterpret my posts as worried as opposed to poking the arguments of you and Faddy to see if I think you're misguided town or scum that don't care about inconsistencies. If I was worried about the heat I wouldn't have engaged with it to this extent. It's a single vote between two people. No one else has engaged with it either. Letting it die would have been the play to make if I was looking to be inconspicuous.
Royal_Flush
Member
He was annoyed. He wanted him to shut up. Didn't work out.
What do you think he wanted to accomplish by seriously voting acohrs? Have you seen the general response to lifeline's theory? How many people you think would have followed? Exactly.