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AquaWateria
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Lol I think they are working on new characters, stages, ARMS, and modes.
Although who knows they may add some lore. There was one interview that talked about this if I am not mistaken.
Resident_UA
Member
I don't know if we are playing the same game LOL. With motion controls even beating level 1 Grand Prix felt random and somewhat difficult specifically because of lag/delay of punches/moves. With regular controls level 7 GP is kind of easy. Also I'm pretty sure I can tell who is playing with motion controls (the actually manage to do a lot of blocking because on regular controller that's difficult to do) and beating those people is piece of cake.
And the fact that developer can play with motion controls doesn't really tell me anything. My issue with motion controls is that they make this game even more difficult to master and it's already a tough game to learn.
Geminosity
Member
I often feel that way when people have issues with the motion controls to be honest. I don't find blocking or moving or much of anything particularly difficult on them, at least not after the initial 10 minute learning curve the first time I used them
That just makes it all the better that we got the option to use whatever suits us best though
Refreshment.01
Member
i always had the feeling the game was going to cut corners in some way, after the Direct i just knew it.
What i thought about as an easy way to flesh out the characters and the single player a bit better without the need to invest hughe amounts of time and resources was implementing the Punch Out molde. Using cinemtic introductory sequences and closing ones after the fight. Something like this could have been outsourced to other studio even while the main team remained working on the game.
bumpkin
Member
Can I just say that fighting a Min-Min with the dragon laser arm and the round spinning disk arm (sorry, I suck at the names) is obnoxious?
I was in a ranked match and after ending up in a 1-1 tie, when I fell behind in the rubber match, I just stood still and stopped playing. I was irritated and my fingers were exhausted. lol.
I was in a ranked match and after ending up in a 1-1 tie, when I fell behind in the rubber match, I just stood still and stopped playing. I was irritated and my fingers were exhausted. lol.
AquaWateria
Member
Springman's deflect is good for this.
tenderbrew
Member
Ran a 200 get arms challenge today for the first time but 2 100 seems much more efficient.
AquaWateria
Member
The key to fighting headlock is to attack him when he tries to buff up that's his biggest weakness. You need to capitalize on it.
Once you understand his movement it starts to click. He seems frustrating at first but man once I understood how to beat him it felt so satisfying.
The Main Event
Member
Lol. It's a fighting game boss alright.
What difficulty? Working my way up on level 6 right now. Took me 2 tries at level 4.
He seems cheaper than most fighting bosses. I'm doing level 4 with mummy. I've beaten him with a couple of people. He's just cheap lol
The Main Event
Member
Ah yeah I can see how frustrating he must be with a slower character.
Resident_UA
Member
I really wish that Nintendo had trophy/achievement system. One game that I'm actually good at and there's nothing to show for it! I haven't lost a single game in ranked mode and got to rank 6 and I can't even look at my stats
I haven't lost a single game in ranked mode and got to rank 6 and I can't even look at my stats Spring Man was definitely tough to use online, but that was with the default loadout.
Had an easier time with Ribbon Girl, but i went off-loadout so it's hard to tell how much of my difficulty was self-imposed.
Had one clean-sweep match as Ribbon Girl in B-ball against a Kid Cobra though. Jump-grab, jump-grab. It's fun when you luck into a player's blindspot like that.
Had an easier time with Ribbon Girl, but i went off-loadout so it's hard to tell how much of my difficulty was self-imposed.
Had one clean-sweep match as Ribbon Girl in B-ball against a Kid Cobra though. Jump-grab, jump-grab. It's fun when you luck into a player's blindspot like that.
Sounds like your joycons may be defective. I'm taking my time through the levels, but I can tell where I'm messing up and what I need to do to fix it. Then I work on that and succeed. I feel the investment is worth it.
Resident_UA
Member
Maybe... Don't know if I care at this point. Got pretty good with the Pro controller. This is honestly one of the best games I played this year and I feel that those motion controls just made getting into this game that much more difficult. I'm kind of surprised that I didn't write it off as OK game and just moved on.
Elfforkusu
Member
I'm 99% sure the AI cheats.
However, once you find a viable strategy with your character (it can be a pain in the butt, try different arms), you should be able to cheese him. I've had more problems with the champ on higher difficulties than Hedlok...
Same here. It's what missing from the game. Every character is just like a single word and that's it. All we have to go off of is designs.
Poltergust
Member
Buffs & Bubbs are their bane. It's best to attempt to beat them head on, I feel.
I am the opposite, I wanted to get into the traditional controls but couldn't. I'm now getting pretty good with motion and I just don't think I can go back! Not only that but there is something extra satisfying about winning with motion, and I can't help but feel this is the best use of complex motion controls in a video game...well...ever.
With that said, maybe you can help me? I want to be able to play with traditional controls but I can't grasp how to bend the punches. How do you move to the left and punch to the right? One of my main strategies is parrying on way and punching the opposite (example : parry left and throw a right punch to the right). How does one accomplish this with buttons?
Soulscribe
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Have had a strange first 24 hours with this game. Got it with my Switch which shipped last night and I've tried various modes both with motion and traditional. Motion seemed fun when I tried that first, but the more I play and switch between control schemes the more I feel like this game is really really fucking hard. Like I would spend an entire match just not connecting a single punch, even if I'm punching straight ahead without attempting a curve. I know different arms can swing differently but it verges on frustrating especially when I'm past just learning introductions. I'm curious to see how long it takes before the mechanics start making sense coz once I think I have it down the next match will come around and my arms refuse to touch my opponent once, lol. This is the only Switch game I'll own til Splatoon so I'll have more time to spend with it. Curious to hear from others on how long it took them to get comfortable with these mechanics. Right now I just walk away from the game whenever I have one of those inexplicably terrible rounds coz I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. :/
AquaWateria
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It took me a few days for it to completely click Lol.
It feels so satisfying when you understand the game.
I had some matches against an obnoxious Cobra Kid using Slapamander and Hydra. He would just run away the whole match throwing punches at the air. He beat me and conceded a rematch, so I used his tactic against him: hit him once and then backed away. The guy would just stay on the other side of the arena waiting for me to go after him for the whole match even if he had less health! I conceded some rematches to see if he would change his tactic, but after beating him 3 times (6 matches) I got bored and moved on to another rival. I hate it when people play this way.
Try using Springman with standard arms (the red gloves) it's a nice way to learn the basics. Focus on making every punch hit by curving them towards where the opponent is moving, or where you think he's going to move. That's the most important think IMO, understanding that you have to make every punch count, as an attack or as a way to force the enemy to move where you want him to be. Try throwing one punch at a time and wait for the arm to return before attacking with the other one so you don't leave yourself open. Then, start dashing after you throw a punch to stay mobile. The waiting minigame in party mode and the skillshot mode are very nice to practice punch accuracy. In just a few days you'll start connecting all your punches. If you play ranked however, learning to read the opponent is very important, so you can find where he's going to move and aim there, as most people wil just dodge your punches if you throw them straight at them. You can use a combination of a straight punch to force the enemy to move followed by a curved punch aimed at where you think he'll dodge. It'll soon become second nature, don't give up!
It took me longer than expected. Not to grasp the controls, but to grasp the mechanics.
I had to start with GP1, GP2, and work my way up. GP4 still gives me a really hard time.
Is there a ressource somewhere with write-ups for the different characters? I've been playing Ninjara in ranked but I'm still using the default load out so I wanted to get some perpective on the metagame.
Been playing dirty keepaway games so far and made it easily to rank 2.
Been playing dirty keepaway games so far and made it easily to rank 2.
AquaWateria
Member
On the front page Hawkian made a reference guide for players on the different ARMS, characters, and strategy in the game.
I suggest using it because its a well made guide from one of the gaffers.
Its so satisfying when you punish them.
It feels so rewarding.
Wide grabs are reeeeally tough to pull off with controls. That's one advantage motion has.
I can play both ways, but also prefer using the buttons simply because moving around with motion controls doesn't feel precise enough.
It might be just me, but I think I stopped coming across them after rank 6 or so (currently I'm rank 8). I guess by that time most people have already learned how to counter them.
Resident_UA
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One of the things that I realized when I switched to Pro controls is that curving your punches is not very helpful. It's much more efficient to quickly move around and throw straight punches which reach the target faster. Moving and timing (including taking a pause before throwing your other punch) are much more important than curving the punches.
Sure there might be unbelievably good player that could make curved punches work to their advantage, but so far I didn't need to curve punches to get through level 7 GP and to be pretty good at ranked mode.
Wide grabs are not very useful at harder difficulty. At that point they will be interrupted with a punch anyway unless you time it very well (at which point even small grab will do the job)
The Hermit
Member
I am getting my ass kicked by my GF, she using motion, me pro.
Hopefully I plan on playing this for a few hours tonight after work, would be fun to finally get some rounds in with some fellow ARMSGAFers. It would help if we had more folks that were as bad at the game as I so we can have an even playing field.
Either way, I may try and put some more testing work into a setup that I never expected to try using, but actually have had some fun with in GP and random party matches. Since sure, the world could use some Blorb-Ninjara.
Either way, I may try and put some more testing work into a setup that I never expected to try using, but actually have had some fun with in GP and random party matches. Since sure, the world could use some Blorb-Ninjara.
Hopefully I plan on playing this for a few hours tonight after work, would be fun to finally get some rounds in with some fellow ARMSGAFers. It would help if we had more folks that were as bad at the game as I so we can have an even playing field.
Either way, I may try and put some more testing work into a setup that I never expected to try using, but actually have had some fun with in GP and random party matches. Since sure, the world could use some Blorb-Ninjara.
Fight me.
AquaWateria
Member
Can't wait to play some ARMS after work.
backflip10019
Member
Do we know when we're getting the first DLC (assuming Max Brass)?
Fight me.Hopefully I plan on playing this for a few hours tonight after work, would be fun to finally get some rounds in with some fellow ARMSGAFers. It would help if we had more folks that were as bad at the game as I so we can have an even playing field.
Either way, I may try and put some more testing work into a setup that I never expected to try using, but actually have had some fun with in GP and random party matches. Since sure, the world could use some Blorb-Ninjara.
No, fight me.
StreetsAhead
Member
Mid-July is the last update we had. I would put money on Thursday or Friday next week.
Max Brass, plus his new arms, a new mode, and probably his stage too are expected.
AquaWateria
Member
I thing we will at least get 5 to 6 new characters.
Resident_UA
Member
Is there really absolutely no punishment for rage quitting? In fact it doesn't even count as a win if somebody rage quits on the other side! This is ridiculous! It kind of makes ranked mode feel like a waste of time
Is there really absolutely no punishment for rage quitting? In fact it doesn't even count as a win if somebody rage quits on the other side! This is ridiculous! It kind of makes ranked mode feel like a waste of time
The ragequitter loses rank equal to a loss.
Is there really absolutely no punishment for rage quitting? In fact it doesn't even count as a win if somebody rage quits on the other side! This is ridiculous! It kind of makes ranked mode feel like a waste of time
Party Mode seems to count a D/C as a win for the one who remains, but i haven't seen ranked mode to know if they treat it differently.
I'm amused by how this game treats ties, incidentally. Everyone does their lose animation. Everybody loses!
sir_bumble_bee
Member
It sucks when I play someone really good, send them a friend request, and want to tell the "good games" but I can't communicate in any way...
I'm shocked that Splatoon 2 is 2 weeks away and we have no idea when this smartphone app is going to release
I'm shocked that Splatoon 2 is 2 weeks away and we have no idea when this smartphone app is going to release
Dammit, I said I needed to find people who are bad at the game. I already know how these rounds would go.
TheGoreMagala
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/156770361?t=14331
An hour and thirty minutes of gameplay featuring me, for those interested. I'm st the very end.
An hour and thirty minutes of gameplay featuring me, for those interested. I'm st the very end.
DarkConfidant
Member
Yeah but the person who didn't doesn't get a gain.
It's like having your game not save, and losing progress in some long rpg.
TheListOfToddicho
Member
I need to get back into this, especially before Max Brass arrives.