ARROW |OT| Green Arrow TV series on CW

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Yeah they said they wanted it drawn out for the duration of the show, and that in the series final the last island scene is the one from the start of the first episode.

Ugh that really doesn't sit well with me. Would be neat if at some point the island wrapped up and we could see Ollie head into future seasons knowing full well that he's the Green Arrow now and all about his past. Plus it just means the more the show is renewed, the more they are going to have to extend and contrive the Island shit.


It makes me happy to read that they'll likely be bringing back those characters in the flashbacks. It's hard not to worry that they killed off Tommy just so Oliver and Laurel could get back together. The two have zero chemistry.
I think Laurel and Oliver have chemistry; I guess that's just me though. Olicity makes 0 sense to me, and Ollie abandoning the chick that he spent 5 years on the island staring at would also make 0 sense.
 
Reposting for the new page:

EW interview with the exec producers on the finale and what's coming for Season 2. Turns out... Malcolm's dead too :(

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/16/arrow-season-finale-post-mortem/

Where does season 2 go from here? “Our whole approach to the show has always been, we like to pass the time in-between episodes in real-time. So we will feel that three-to-four month gap, but basically The Glades being destroyed, I keep referring to it as season 2’s version of ‘the notebook.’ The notebook was the main thing that created a lot of story engine for us and the consequences and the figurative after-shocks of the earthquake are going to provide the new story engine for season 2.”

The way-cool effects: “The explosion on the island, that’s real — that was an actual explosion that was shot. The only thing that was added with visual effects was the missile itself. I actually felt bad for the special effects guys because I thought the explosion looked so good that people would think it was a computer effect. But that was all practical. One of the advantages of knowing what we were going to do early on was we were able to set aside money as we were going through the season. we called it ‘the kitty,’ where we just kept putting money aside.”

What’s the deal with Det. Lance? “We have really exciting plans for Lance in season 2. I don’t want to spoil them, but he definitely turns a corner in the finale as far as The Hood is concerned. Our goal has always been to make him our version of Commissioner Gordon. What I will say is that the scene that he has with Lieutenant Pike, where he basically outs himself as having worked with The Hood instead of capturing him, that will have huge repercussions for him in season two.”

Felicity, Dig, and Oliver unite! “I think that trinity, that trio, has really benefited us, in large part because the actors are so strong and they’re so good together and Diggle and Felicity and Oliver are all very different kinds of characters, so the key I think, when you’re putting together a group like that, is that they not all be so similar that it’s like an echo chamber.”

Killing Tommy: “We creatively opened ourselves up to the possibility of killing Tommy around the time we were doing episode 16. I think around episode 18 is when we fully committed to doing it. I can’t say enough about what a class act Colin Donnell is. He gave 120 percent every single day, every single scene, every single line of dialogue, from the moment he found out what our plans were all the way up to the very end. People on the crew were asking us, ‘Look at what Colin is doing. Have you changed your mind?’ Killing Tommy was never about Colin’s performance. It was always about if we do this, what stories does it tell? It’s definitely something I feel conflicted about, but that said, I think it was the right thing — especially as we start to talk about season two [and] the impact that Tommy’s death has on not just on Oliver, but all of our characters.

Is Malcolm Merlyn really dead? “Well, it certainly looks that way. John Barrowman is amazing and we love him and the one thing I will say with respect to both Tommy’s death and Malcolm Merlyn’s death is this is a show that does flashbacks.”

I certainly hope they can wrangle a way down the line to retcon Malcolm's death... but even if he stays dead, Malcolm is a fantastic villain, one who definitely will leave an impact on the show and legacy of the characters that follow in his footsteps. They better think long and hard about what the next Big Bad will be and if he can measure up to the Dark Archer. John Barrowman was perfect casting.

Ugh that really doesn't sit well with me. Would be neat if at some point the island wrapped up and we could see Ollie head into future seasons knowing full well that he's the Green Arrow now and all about his past. Plus it just means the more the show is renewed, the more they are going to have to extend and contrive the Island shit.

Hopefully they just stick with their five year plan, wrap up the Island tale in Season 5, and then start something new and unknown with Oliver heading into Season 6.

Bet Oliver's gonna be half a lunatic at the start of Season 2, or half-comatose, totally withdrawn and shut off from everybody.
 
Bet Oliver's gonna be half a lunatic at the start of Season 2, or half-comatose, totally withdrawn and shut off from everybody.

I wouldn't be surprised:
As for Season 2 in the present day, I kind of know where we find Moira, Detective Lance… hmm… and Katie [Laurel]. I have no idea where Oliver is, at all. They had an idea for the first scene, but it’s something different than you would ever expect. I would actually hope that — I don’t know when Comic-Con is in relation to when we start our season, but I would hope that it would be something we could film, and just air, as a 90-second teaser at Comic-Con. It would be one of those “oh my God!” moments.”

article from http://www.greenarrowtv.com/interview-slade-or-shado-in-present-day-and-how-much-does-stephen-amell-know-about-whats-next/14230

Also, I'm surprised Manu was upped to regular but not Shado for season 2. Has to be that the dude is going to show up in the present, because from that interview, it sounds like Shado, Ollie, and Slade won't be dying and will sort of be the island trio equivalent to Digg/Ollie/Felicity in the present.
 

"It does seem like an inevitability that eventually, some aspect of the island will touch Oliver’s life in the present day,” he said. “I mean, really. Just name a character from the island. Slade, Shado, Edward Fyers, Yao Fei… if any of those people showed up in the present day, I think that would be awesome."

Uh, I don't know how to tell you this, Amell, buddy, but two of those people are dead. lol
 
Anyone notice that Malcolm is totally stealing Jigsaw's motive?
I mean they both wanted the scum of the streets to learn from their mistakes.
They both had wives with clinics in seedy areas.
Both of their wives were attacked by said scum.
Both swore vengeance for the damage done to their wives by killing people.

His motive is also similar to Ras' al Ghul in Batman. Both have the desire to get rid of the scums of society, which ironically also involve harming a lot of innocent people along the way. But what's a few collateral to boil a few bad eggs?
 
That was a pretty awesome end to an equally awesome season. I was expecting so much less from this show, but it surprised the hell out of me. It's still not really what I wanted from a Green Arrow show, and at times it's a little too "CW" for me, but it's just too damn entertaining to get hung up on that stuff. Season 2 can't come soon enough.
 
"It does seem like an inevitability that eventually, some aspect of the island will touch Oliver’s life in the present day,” he said. “I mean, really. Just name a character from the island. Slade, Shado, Edward Fyers, Yao Fei… if any of those people showed up in the present day, I think that would be awesome."

Uh, I don't know how to tell you this, Amell, buddy, but two of those people are dead. lol

He knew that but still had to give the impression that they were still alive, as the interview was done a few weeks before the finale aired.
 
Just caught the finale. That was pretty damn good! It was weird how some of the residents of the Glades had "End is Near"-type signs.

Super excited for season 2.
Not so much for the summer fanfic.
 
Hey!

I'm looking forward to watching the finalé. I'm so far behind! Glad the reception is positive.. the last three episodes were high volume, vfx wise, but we couldn't keep you waiting any longer. ;-)

It's tough to work on stuff that you don't want to happen, I'll say that. I was bummed about Tommy a month ago. And Yao Fei, too.

As to why Arrow's wound disappeared after a while, the really big wounds are done in post. That way they control how big they are, where they are (very important when the objects impaling are vfx, too) and how gory it all is. Which is a fun line to try and cross!

It was a great season. Lots of things that you guys noticed, and plenty of subtle stuff that (hopefully) nobody did. An arrow in a guy's chest? Fake, sure, at least the impact. But how about the bowstring from the bow that launched it? Or that car that almost ran Arrow over, or Deadshot's scope, or the crashed airplane hideout? And so much more.

Again, a thrill to work on such a good show, and great team - and, as the exec producer said, an amazing practical fx squad.

One thing we never touched -- Stephen Amell's body. Dude needs no help from us with that. At all. Yeesh.
 
Hey!

I'm looking forward to watching the finalé. I'm so far behind! Glad the reception is positive.. the last three episodes were high volume, vfx wise, but we couldn't keep you waiting any longer. ;-)

It's tough to work on stuff that you don't want to happen, I'll say that. I was bummed about Tommy a month ago. And Yao Fei, too.

As to why Arrow's wound disappeared after a while, the really big wounds are done in post. That way they control how big they are, where they are (very important when the objects impaling are vfx, too) and how gory it all is. Which is a fun line to try and cross!

It was a great season. Lots of things that you guys noticed, and plenty of subtle stuff that (hopefully) nobody did. An arrow in a guy's chest? Fake, sure, at least the impact. But how about the bowstring from the bow that launched it? Or that car that almost ran Arrow over, or Deadshot's scope, or the crashed airplane hideout? And so much more.

Again, a thrill to work on such a good show, and great team - and, as the exec producer said, an amazing practical fx squad.

One thing we never touched -- Stephen Amell's body. Dude needs no help from us with that. At all. Yeesh.

You guys did a really good job.
 
Hey!

I'm looking forward to watching the finalé. I'm so far behind! Glad the reception is positive.. the last three episodes were high volume, vfx wise, but we couldn't keep you waiting any longer. ;-)

It's tough to work on stuff that you don't want to happen, I'll say that. I was bummed about Tommy a month ago. And Yao Fei, too.

As to why Arrow's wound disappeared after a while, the really big wounds are done in post. That way they control how big they are, where they are (very important when the objects impaling are vfx, too) and how gory it all is. Which is a fun line to try and cross!

It was a great season. Lots of things that you guys noticed, and plenty of subtle stuff that (hopefully) nobody did. An arrow in a guy's chest? Fake, sure, at least the impact. But how about the bowstring from the bow that launched it? Or that car that almost ran Arrow over, or Deadshot's scope, or the crashed airplane hideout? And so much more.

Again, a thrill to work on such a good show, and great team - and, as the exec producer said, an amazing practical fx squad.

One thing we never touched -- Stephen Amell's body. Dude needs no help from us with that. At all. Yeesh.

You worked on the show? Cool! Arrow has had great effects from the start, glad to see you guys pull it off with aplomb
 
This finale sucked. Three times a person gets saved just in time, so stupid and lame. The only cool thing though was Tommy dying and having a second earthquake thing. Other than that it was lame. The Roy storyline is atrocious, I HAVE TO SAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW TO PROVE SOMETHING! Yeah, let him play the savior. Such a useless character.

Overall I thought this was a bland season with a few good episodes. I thought the 'hacking' of the missile launcher was weird too, that went a little too good. Only change one chip and the thing goes somewhere else?

The Fyers moment was predictable as well. There was no way in hell he would fail and shoot that girl.

Just a big meh and I probably won't watch season 2.
 
Biggest surprise of the year for me. Love this show. I never really followed the Green Arrow comics, so it's all really new to me. Anyway, glad I gave it a shot early. Especially with so many of my favorite shows ending this year.
 
Hey!

I'm looking forward to watching the finalé. I'm so far behind! Glad the reception is positive.. the last three episodes were high volume, vfx wise, but we couldn't keep you waiting any longer. ;-)

It's tough to work on stuff that you don't want to happen, I'll say that. I was bummed about Tommy a month ago. And Yao Fei, too.

As to why Arrow's wound disappeared after a while, the really big wounds are done in post. That way they control how big they are, where they are (very important when the objects impaling are vfx, too) and how gory it all is. Which is a fun line to try and cross!

It was a great season. Lots of things that you guys noticed, and plenty of subtle stuff that (hopefully) nobody did. An arrow in a guy's chest? Fake, sure, at least the impact. But how about the bowstring from the bow that launched it? Or that car that almost ran Arrow over, or Deadshot's scope, or the crashed airplane hideout? And so much more.

Again, a thrill to work on such a good show, and great team - and, as the exec producer said, an amazing practical fx squad. The action, the sets, the suspense, and the effects have been really great. The action, the sets, the effects, and the pacing have all been amazing thus far.

One thing we never touched -- Stephen Amell's body. Dude needs no help from us with that. At all. Yeesh.

Keep up the good work, show is amazing albeit the occasional plot hole or wtf story moment lol. Definitely my favorite show of the year, especially since Spartacus is all finished.
 
Anyone notice that Malcolm is totally stealing Jigsaw's motive?
I mean they both wanted the scum of the streets to learn from their mistakes.
They both had wives with clinics in seedy areas.
Both of their wives were attacked by said scum.
Both swore vengeance for the damage done to their wives by killing people.


Well I have been saying Arrow is Punisher/Batman and that lends more credence to that.

Shame Merlyn is dead. I can live with that. I can't live with Laurel though.


So who will be the big bad next season? Since it is a woman there are so few women in the actual Green Arrow mythos that are antagonists it would be easy to guess.

There's only Cheshire, Cupid, Hyrax, China White and Shado for notable female characters.

The last two have already been casted. Due to characters in the show vaguely resembling their comic counterparts Cheshire and Hyrax don't make sense. Cupid is a heavy hitter but her relationship with Ollie (fangirl) makes me feel the show would be better off introducing her midway through season 2 and preferably in season 3 or 4 after the hoods popularity has been further cemented.

More likely the big bad is a very obscure villainess. Since this show is Punisher/Batman they are going to dig deep into one, if not both wells again.

My guess is Ruby Ryder.

The world’s richest woman and top female tycoon, based in Gotham City, Ruby Ryder is also a femme fatale and a full-fledged big time criminal. Three meetings with Batman ended in defeat and prison. She also encounters Metamorpho, Green Arrow, the Metal Men, and Plastic Man (the latter of whom falls in love with her).

Hey!

I'm looking forward to watching the finalé. I'm so far behind! Glad the reception is positive.. the last three episodes were high volume, vfx wise, but we couldn't keep you waiting any longer. ;-)

Thanks for helping create a quality show. I like that the action scenes with Merlyn, Mr. Blank and Roy vs the 3 goons was a jump in quality over what we had previously before then but that situation with Merlyn vs swat was goofy. You guys have room to grow on improving your action direction.

As for the drama portion its great you guys had the balls to out Moira, let Meryln get a partial victory and kill off Tommy. I'm looking forward to seeing how Thea and Ollie cope being without both of their original parents and Laurel squirm for getting Tommy killed.
 
Only thing still bugging me about the finale was the fact that Ollie stuck a fucking arrow completely through his body and seemed none the worse. I think they wanted to have a badass death scene with Merlin then they remembered they had to get Ollie halfway around town to see Tommy die, so they just said "oh he's fine."

Small issue though, I really liked the finale (other minor potholes/contrived things aside). Hope Season 2 stays as good, or even gets better.
 
No canary arc teaser? No Red Arrow closure? I don't remember them showing Roy saving those ppl.

Merlyn dying? He's like the only recognizable and real relevant green arrow villain I can think of at the top of my head.

That'd be cool if Thea becomes Cheshire Cat tho..
 
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So next year we should also check out The Tomorrow People, Amell's cousin is starring.
 
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