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[Grizzlyjin]

This season, and this episode especially, is surprisingly introspective for a CW comic book show. They usually just sorta let things happen and move on, but this season has a lot of Team Arrow dealing with the consequences of past actions. The centerpiece of this episode is everyone reconciling the hypocrisy of Oliver's codes. Kill, don't kill, kill sometimes, etc. It's surprising that they're even taking this on, usually these shows just hand wave it away and hope the viewer forgets.

That last moment was just bonkers. Like crazier than any theory I could have come up with. I'm not going to even try to unpack it, I just want to watch it unfold.

6 for 6. Arrow is leading the comic book pack this season.

 

[Nabs]

This has to be one of the strongest starts to a season of Arrow. Just don't go reading what Olliciters are saying. Shit is bizarro world.

I don't know who does these things, but can I get a gif of the SO IT BEGINS part?

 

[morningbus]

Seeing it in action, I can definitely get some use out of the soitbegins.gif.

 

[Platy]

Yeah that is totaly a red hearing .... no way they downplay alcoholism that way

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

This has to be one of the strongest starts to a season of Arrow. Just don't go reading what Olliciters are saying. Shit is bizarro world.

You know Arrow is good when I complete forget about the shippers.

This will probably get lots of use

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Shit, this show keeps knocking it out of the park. It really feels like a culmination of everything since the first season. The list from season 1, the Russian connection from season 2, etc.

There's something creepy going on with Prometheus though. It really feels like he's some kind of ghost haunting the Green Arrow. No way is Lance him though. It's obviously a big red herring. I hope it isn't Felicity's boyfriend though.

 

[Sephzilla]

This has to be one of the strongest starts to a season of Arrow. Just don't go reading what Olliciters are saying. Shit is bizarro world.

Saving this gif for Trump's inauguration day

 

[Ithil]

I'm noticing a very clear intention to lighten Felicity's character (back to how it was in early seasons). Zero drama with her, a lot more jokes and silliness. It's a pretty obvious conscientious effort to address the dislike she gathered over season 3-4.

 

[Sephzilla]

I'm noticing a very clear intention to lighten Felicity's character (back to how it was in early seasons). Zero dram with her, a lot more jokes and silliness. It's a pretty obvious conscientious effort to address the dislike she gathered over season 3-4.

Yeah, I'm noticing that too. Although I did worry we were hitting "here we go again" territory when Oliver found out Felicity had a new man

 

[MikeBreezy92]

Yeah, I'm noticing that too. Although I did worry we were hitting "here we go again" territory when Oliver found out Felicity had a new man

I say this again...

The relationship itself wasn't the issue. It was the unnecessary drama that came from it and thrusting Felicity's character in moments where her character doesn't do well.

 

[Wingfan19]

I want to be apart of that team.

 

[Joni]

Finally getting around to the episode.
The Bratva training explains a lot about those random skills Oliver shows.

 

[Darth Pinche]

With the story going back to the List, could they also be going back to Mirakuru? Like Prometheus is actually Anthony Ivo back form the dead? And he is framing Lance?
Just pulling this out of my ass, but it would explain being arrow proof, grudge with Oliver etc.

 

[Joni]

They really have to remind us that Artemis is 17. She is looking damn hot. She is also a good voice of reason. Liked her heart to heart with Oliver.

 

[Sephzilla]

I want to be apart of that team.

DC comics heroes smiling and looking like they're having fun!?

Zack Snyder is furious right now

 

[Darth Pinche]

They really have to remind us that Artemis is 17. She is looking damn hot. She is also a good voice of reason. Liked her heart to heart with Oliver.

She looked like she was going to jump Ollie's bones there. Maybe Ollie is just reminding himself that she is 17!

 

[Grizzlyjin]

She looked like she was going to jump Ollie's bones there. Maybe Ollie is just reminding himself that she is 17!

He didn't plan on doing anything "...yet."

I swear Ragman has been hitting on Curtis too. Something is going on there.

 

[OdysseusVA]

They really have to remind us that Artemis is 17. She is looking damn hot. She is also a good voice of reason. Liked her heart to heart with Oliver.

Dammit
I already started a tumblr for this ship

 

[Darth Pinche]

Dammit
I already started a tumblr for this ship

 

[iosefe]

if it helps, the actress just turned 21

 

[strafer]

I want to be apart of that team.

I can't...

 

[Htown]

Thanks! Saved.

 

[MHWilliams]

I say this again...

The relationship itself wasn't the issue. It was the unnecessary drama that came from it and thrusting Felicity's character in moments where her character doesn't do well.

Pretty much. Imagine if Olicity drama ended like the Felicity's admission in this episode. So much better.

She looked like she was going to jump Ollie's bones there. Maybe Ollie is just reminding himself that she is 17!

Same issue they had with Thea's actress early on.

 

[ZeroX03]

I thought the scene with Oliver and Artemis managed to have a lot less sexual tension than one would expect from Arrow. I mean it was still there, but she's no Thea.

 

[Da-Kid]

It bothers me greatly that Green Arrow cannot holster his Bow and awkwardly walks around holding it. Like, I distinctly remember his bow could fold out and down but I guess they forgot that.

 

[MikeBreezy92]

It bothers me greatly that Green Arrow cannot holster his Bow and awkwardly walks around holding it. Like, I distinctly remember his bow could fold out and down but I guess they forgot that.

Costs money for that dope folding effect lol

 

[iosefe]

It bothers me greatly that Green Arrow cannot holster his Bow and awkwardly walks around holding it. Like, I distinctly remember his bow could fold out and down but I guess they forgot that.

he is subconsciously paranoid and thus always at the ready

 

[Discotheque]

I thought the scene with Oliver and Artemis managed to have a lot less sexual tension than one would expect from Arrow. I mean it was still there, but she's no Thea.

nah. she looked like she wanted to jump his bones. i thought it looked more apparent than Oliver's scenes with Thea tbh.

 

[Da-Kid]

Costs money for that dope folding effect lol

It really isn't the problem, especially considering a folding or collapsible bow is real. Maybe not in the same fashion but they can always just make a prop of it at least..

he is subconsciously paranoid and thus always at the ready

No...

 

[iosefe]

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[northead]

...and 5x06 isn't even there.

Spoiler

 

[Darth Pinche]

What? Maybe superhero saturation? Too bad since this season is much better.

 

[Sephzilla]

All caught up.






WHAT THE FUCK. AND THIS IS BARRY'S FAULT SOMEHOW I BET

 

[jb1234]

This is definitely a dramatically improved season (so far).

 

[MikeBreezy92]

I still think that any negatives S4 got was a direct reaction to Season 3.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

All caught up.






WHAT THE FUCK. AND THIS IS BARRY'S FAULT SOMEHOW I BET

Quentin was Flashpoint Deathstroke. He gets his flashbacks when he's blackout drunk.

 

[Teletraan1]

Prometheus is 100% Felicity's BF. I just watched it and it makes sense. He knew that she had analysed that throwing star so it would just be a matter of time before they figured it was someone from SCPD so he had to frame up Lance who is an easy mark as a drunk ex SCPD. After revealing that she was the working with the Green Arrow he was legit shook for like 2 seconds but just snapped back right away, it was really weird. The goofy question about why does he wear a mask was just a smokescreen. His arm was also not moving when he kissed her but did use it in a limited capacity.

 

[kylecoley182]

I don't buy it at all

 

[MikeBreezy92]

Flashpoint Tommy still suspect #1.

 

[kylecoley182]

Flashpoint Tommy still suspect #1.

.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

It bothers me greatly that Green Arrow cannot holster his Bow and awkwardly walks around holding it. Like, I distinctly remember his bow could fold out and down but I guess they forgot that.

That new lair ain't paying for itself man.

 

[KDash31987]

I want to be apart of that team.

 

[Romez]

So Arrow is good again? Stopped after 3/start of 4.

 

[Ithil]

Pretty much. Imagine if Olicity drama ended like the Felicity's admission in this episode. So much better.



Same issue they had with Thea's actress early on.

Yeah, "early on".

 

[Poodlestrike]

So Arrow is good again? Stopped after 3/start of 4.

Arrow isn't just good again, it's the best CWTV show by a lot. Maybe even the best comic book show on TV.

 

[kylecoley182]

Arrow isn't just good again, it's the best CWTV show by a lot. Maybe even the best comic book show on TV.

Let me tell you about a show called Lucifer

 

[Poodlestrike]

Let me tell you about a show called Lucifer

Did they dramatically change the structure from season 1 or what? Because "Devil owns a nightclub and helps the cops solve a murder a week because really he's just misunderstood" got kinda old.

 

[kylecoley182]

Did they dramatically change the structure from season 1 or what? Because "Devil owns a nightclub and helps the cops solve a murder a week because really he's just misunderstood" got kinda old.

But his mom is in it now !

 

[caliph95]

Did they dramatically change the structure from season 1 or what? Because "Devil owns a nightclub and helps the cops solve a murder a week because really he's just misunderstood" got kinda old.

As a fan of the comic this makes it hard for me to get into the show and i'm still hesitant even after only seeing the pilot episode.

But his mom is in it now !

This the Vertigo fan in me talking but how and why does Lucifer have a mom.

 

[ZeroX03]

Arrow isn't just good again, it's the best CWTV show by a lot. Maybe even the best comic book show on TV.

Nope Jane